A cunning strategy. Wait, no, cunning isn't the right word...

You're like poison without the actual mafia status. What did you hope to accomplish by saying this? Your actions caused the Detective to waste an investigate on you; you should rethink your strategy for future games.

Holy shit, you might break poison's record for this game.

I can only assume you were trying to be clever. The Vigilante's speech on the night you died was referring to your idea that claiming mafia would be a smart and safe decision, and that your character did not understand how serious such a claim is when the group is responsible for murder.

If you were doing this just to troll, please don't play my future games.

I'm gonna stop you right there. My intro posts never contain clues; you should remember this from my previous games, or deduced it by the game starting at night instead of day.

You let Azrael write your posts for you? For shame.

As Aristocrat stated, it's equally likely that someone killed Inferno to frame him. You approached this too definitively, in my opinion.

Aside from Lanthanide calling BS on the idea that I'd base clues on role PMs, there's a logical gap here: Aristocrat's PM states clearly that he is a townie and has no malicious intent.

1) If you believe Aristocrat's PM isn't legitimate, you can't use part of it to incriminate him.
2) If you believe Aristocrat got a Mafia PM that was written just like a townie PM and only modified half it to look like a townie while keeping the part that incriminates him before he shared it with other people, well, you're making large assumptions of an unlikely scenario.

It actually just means the person didn't get lynched by the day vote. Pretty basic stuff.

Maybe you should always play competitively.

People call you Dem0n instead of Dem0nS1ayer. In fact, you shortened your name from Dem0nS1ayer to Dem0n, so couldn't this point to you?That is a much better clue interpretation. Too bad my intro posts never have clues in them.

This is a reTARDIS move. Sorry...

Seriously, though, this would be the best move the Mafia could have made, as they'd get the claim from both doctors and say "Yes, the other Doctor contacted me," leaving you and Observer in the dark with a false hub. It isn't a good move for the town, as you'll just lose a power role and potentially cause other power roles to stumble when trying to organize another hub.

Oh, so you'll reveal another power role once you die? That seems... bad.

A terrible move suddenly became a decent move. I'd attribute this more to luck than you actually planning this out, though.

I wish Lanthanide would have contacted you, even with a Vigilante claim. That would have been such an insane and awesome decision for the mafia.

Yeah, so did Observer, apparently; you could have been killed by a single hit.

Painting a target on Olimar's back; the town could very well lose its Detective. I hope he will be protected for your sake.

Any Joe Smoe could have made a typo when sending out several PMs! I even had a typo in the intro post; I'm surprised you held that against him, but I guess it worked to your advantage. (In case you didn't know, the mafia were supplied with surplus townie role PMs so they could see my writing style for this game; I guess they were too lazy to write their own and just use the ones I provided.)

Actually, in such a small governmental system, it would be unlikely that a department serving what we know as the FDA would delegate their work out to third parties. Furthermore, people working on behalf of our FDA do in fact take samples, especially for fresh produce.

Since the government is so small, it's not unreasonable to assume that the departments that are likened to the ones we have are taking more roles and responsibilities, since there isn't enough demand to warrant branching these entities into smaller components.

You should have realized this world isn't a mirror image of our own when a small town can change its form of government and start killing people by popular vote. It's more of an alternate reality, which I attempted to draw the players into by tying things we're already familiar with but are operating in different (and oftentimes unreasonable) ways. It was meant to be a humorous spin with more corruption and simplicity (staying true to the name of the game!) than the governance we know today.

A few logical issues that nobody really pointed out in the thread:

1) If Aristocrat were mafia and his role PM was incriminating him, why would he share it as opposed to writing up a completely different one?
2) If Aristocrat's role PM states that he is a townie in debt, why would you conclude that he is the mafia killing another townie?

The only path here is that Aristocrat faked half of his PM to look like a townie while leaving in the details that "incriminate" him. That's certainly a much larger leap than your statement seemed to imply.

ROY WHY IS MY ROLE SO BORING COMPARED TO EVERYONE ELSE I ASKED. :-(Stop yelling at me! I can't answer you when the game is running!

Roles were all prewritten and randomized; it's not that you got the last one and I ran out of ideas (in fact, I had extra role PMs for townies that I gave to the mafia). I had a few curveball role PMs like yours (really short) and BiOAtK's (written in first-person diary format) to make it more difficult for the town to identify a legitimate role PM from a forged one. I'm sorry that you got one of the few that didn't give you a developed character to play with, but that's just the luck of the draw.

A company like Kate's shouldn't have a CFO anyways; it is incredibly small to warrant needing one.....First, I've done an externship at a company of 5 employees, and they had a CFO; it's just a title, and someone has to manage the finances. Second, I said that this was a conglomerate, implying that it was a much larger enterprise than just a local grocery center. They could be, you know, selling crazy straws or something.

Ugh, actually, as far as produce is concerned there might be all sorts of agricultural boards you go through too.Stop it! You seemed to be making the error that my world had to properly match the real world, when I was actually just having fun with it. I hope that didn't cause you to have less fun.

Well, if it helps, I'm living on military subsidies because I was in some sort of martial arts branch. I don't have a job yet, but it begs the question if someone needs a bodyguard.Oh, you!

Anyone notice how the narrator keeps saying to stop him if you've heard this one before? I would say this is related to a Morrissey song, but it's more than likely related to something else... (check for music threads maybe?) Also, I think another think to question is why the posts are told in that perspective... I dunno, and I haven't sat down and looked at all the clues. I do think there is something to our PM's however...Just the narrative to show that it is in fact the same person telling these narrations, as opposed to a round-robin type deal. Nothing to the PMs other than describing where you fit in this world.

The actual use of bureau seems to be too important to Roy's story, that it would be used as a clue against somebody. If anything, it's more like a language (French?) pointing clue, from the misinterpretation.That is some hardcore out-of-the-box thinking. Unfortunately, my intro posts are prewritten and never contain clues (why would I start on night if they did?), but I really enjoyed seeing this kind of thought being put into my game.

Because I don't know why Roy gave me a different message, so I don't want to post it in the thread incase there was some actual reason behind it or if he just did it randomly. Maybe it has nothing to do with my role at all, I don't know,Oh boy. It's unfortunate that you decided to start the game this way and roll mafia. Let's see how you get out of it.
I was trolling, my activity check was the same as yours all along. I started off trying to implicate you as some sort of bad guy but on further inspection, that didn't make a lot of sense if everyone else got the same story as you, making me look suspicious

Obviously posting my activity check now is rather pointless as it's identical to yours: posting it therefore doesn't prove anything because I could have just copied your one anyway.

I am a townsperson however. The only other proof I can offer is to ask Azrael - I told him in a whisper in the shoutbox that I was trolling before the game started and roles were distributed. I guess he could just lie though.
Edit: Actually Azrael just reminded me that I can save shouts, so here we go:
http://www.staredit.net/?p=shoutbox&view=1850 (yeterday, before roles were distributed, first few lines from Az were public, the rest are whispered)
http://www.staredit.net/?p=shoutbox&view=1851

Otherwise, I'm quite happy to post my role PM in this thread if you want - mafia already know who the mafia are, so all I'd be revealing here is that I wasn't one of the few townspeople power roles, and I've already sent it to Kame.Ah, using one of the leftover role PMs as well as proof that you were just kidding. Well done! I honestly didn't expect such a smooth recovery, and it actually puts you in a phenomenal position.

Missing your first night action didn't help your team, but maybe you were concerned of a quick investigation because of these shenanigans?

After reviewing the available evidence and conversing with others, I trust that both Aristo and Kame are town and I vote for l)ark_ssj9kevin. I don't have a lot of evidence, but I do believe both Kame and Aristo are town and Kevin has voted for both of them, flip-flopping in the breeze as he saw the bandwagon building.While I like the justification at the end there, you're being a bit aggressive in your confidence of the townies' innocence. A townsperson would not just "trust" their innocence without "a lot of evidence"; this may have been a misstep for you.

I've been working with Kame. I have no reason to suspect her.At first this seems like a good play, because if you die early, it can shift suspicion to Kame, who you're defending when she's being accused. It would be more convincing only if she were at risk of lynch herself; announcing her innocence in this scenario, unless you have the evidence to support it (which you already mentioned you didn't) may give the impression that you know too much.

I am mafia, what's the point in hiding it? I had no idea what your detective result said. It was a 50/50 shot that he'd followed the doctor and not me, in which case me saying anything would be silly because then you'd know I was mafia. My best option was to stay silent.What's the point?! There's always a point! Even if you're doomed, you can still play mindgames to lead players to suspect other players.

Was your best option to stay silent? Perhaps. You already invested in a regular townie claim, so you could take your chances at the 50/50 or try to sell yourself to Devlin as either a Doctor or Vigilante. I would have probably made the same choice as you, but I would look back on it and decide that it wasn't the best choice. Instead, sending a message to Devlin like "I visited you, but I'm not the Doctor" would have left an impression that you were just a confused Vigilante. I dunno; it's a tough call, and I can't blame you for your decision.

Hey, post of the day right here! You debunked those interpretations pretty well, and you were right: there was no relation between the killer and Inferno.


How do you know that?I made the OP extremely brief; you should have read it!

That is damn clever! Too clever for me, evidently.

Cool idea; I didn't notice it myself (same with the college kid idea floating around).

Wow, very good observation on your part. Yes, the Day posts did not include clues; they were just restating or continuing the behavior of the players.

Note that the "guest" is the object of the second clause, and the subject of neither. Thus, the guest (the one surprised) may have been in the bedroom already and another entity of some sort (subject of the first clause) "finally reached" the bedroom, surprising the guest.
"Surprise" being personified, I infer that the entity approaching the bedroom is likely the surprise itself. Anyone have an avatar that looks surprising and straw-clutch worthy?I wrote it that way as a means of not revealing the gender of the player. It could be reworded to say "When the guest reached the bedroom, he/she was greeted by a surprise."

Technically, yes, but with the turn-in rate presented to me, you two seem to be quite vulnerable indeed.

How would you propose we do that? I have no ideas outside of the detective revealing himself if he finds a mafia member.Detective found. If I were mafia, you would have been my next target. The chances of a regular townie asking this question is slim. Fortunately, the Mafia seemed to have overlooked this.

If there were a counter-claim, Devlin couldn't do anything other than reveal the two claimers to someone, which would inevitably reveal the Vigilante to the Mafia. Furthermore, if the Mafia then successfully kill Devlin, someone would have to reveal the two claimers (if Devlin did not do so publicly), which would most likely make a power-role have to reveal themselves as working with Devlin. I could see this plan going terribly wrong if the Mafia approach it just right.

It's an old joke, and I feel like a reference to that could be interpreted as a clue. Besides, I'm going for a more consistent tone for day posts, and lynch candidates all die by hanging.

Yeah, there were some missed opportunities from the mafia that really put them behind fast, and the town's power roles stayed alive for the whole game.

Me too, what a coincidence. Though I don't even remember seeing your name on the mafia PM...Odd.You do this every time you're mafia. Did you think nobody would catch on again? Well, not a bad assertion, since nobody seemed to remember that my introduction posts are always prewritten before roles are assigned.

Yeah, I'm putting this shit in the game post if you get lynched.

With the writing style I used, the Vigilante and Mafia are indistinguishable; they both want to better the town and act in the name of what they consider justice. This was a good comment, because it shows that you do not know the answer (even though you do).

Sounds good on paper, but Mafia would almost never take such a stance against a townie, since they know the townie will show as innocent, so this more leads to Demon being innocent. I'm guessing most people reading that didn't go through that train of thought, though.

Ugh, that mafia claim again.

I believe you, poison.

Good defend for Farty, neutral enough to not raise too much suspicion if one of you dies. And well done tying in that "I am mafia" motive.

I think Kame was killed by a vigilante. Any other ideas?This was cringe-worthy for me. That quote has absolutely no indication that the Vigilante killed Kame; it was pointing out that people get hanged by lynching, but this person, who was also hanged, was not voted for a lynch. It seems like you only asserted this because you knew that it was, in fact, a Vigilante kill, since your team didn't kill her. I have no idea why Devlin agreed with that analysis; maybe he was just speaking based on strategy.

Really? No exit strategy? You should have thought of something after seeing how well Lanthanide's forfeit favored your team.

1. Raffle ticket = obvious clue. Obvious clue = ambiguous clue (as stated by Roy). Ambiguous clue about raffle = pointing towards one of Vrael, Aristocrat, or Poison.Nice logical approach, but you should have applied it to the idea that there would be two game posts before a lynch; clues in the introduction isn't something I do for this reason (as I've mentioned in my past games).

2. The second passage seems to be written like a college kid. a) being nocturnal, staying up all night b) valuing education c) using stuff like pringles cans for stuff like a scope for a sniper rifle. I don't think these are clues, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. Okay, he wasn't actually using a Pringles can.

As for this night, though, I'm not sure why I'm up at all. I have plans, sure, but none of which I could not have done later or earlier.Clue? or just bad grammar? Switches from present tense to past tense.This was originally more verbose, where I said it could be done later or could have been done earlier.

Yet you continue to torment me. You contain to assail me with insults when it is I who is at the top now. Do you even know who I am? I am the VIGILANTE! I am the one who runs the show now. Cease with your foolish comments. I asked you to stop this story, yet you continue to rant. Old man, your existence is done for, so why do you continue the futile struggle of trying to alter the way of life?Whoops. You've seemed to confuse the narrator as the dead mayor, when in actuality it is yourself. This whole time, you've been yelling at yourself.

1. No answer on the reciever -> a Mafia was probably afk.Spot on! Lanthanide didn't submit a night action (perhaps suspecting the detective would be on to him after his activity check scandal).

2. "bureau" = "desk".Not quite. Take "Federal Bureau of Investigation" for instance. It's not exactly a desk detective, is it?

Bureau has multiple definitions, hence the fun little confusion bit in the intro post. The definition the narrator (Raccoon) was referring to was "a division of a government department or an independent administrative unit." The definition it was confused with by his converser was "a chest of drawers, often with a mirror at the top."

I don't think Roy would give one player a role PM that's only two sentences long.Technically, Kame's role PM had a bit of useless dialog in it as well, so you're partially correct. I vary my PMs extremely so that they cannot be used as primary confirmation, which may include extremely brief versions.

We should keep an eye on those who voted for Aristocrat.Bad strategy. Seven people voted for Aristocrat, and there was no serious competing bandwagon. The mafia would have no incentive to vote on someone who was going to die anyway (and in fact, none of them did), and they'd only have incentive if the other candidate was mafia.

Generally for these, you want to watch the people who sit back and allow the fighting. Mafia have a tendency to not to anything rash, because it would draw attention to themselves, so they wouldn't normally try to swing a vote or lead a bandwagon unless they are metagaming.

I think the mafia might be composed of less-experienced players or suffer from a lack of coordination. Yesterday I suspected Kame, and last night they killed her. Why would they kill someone who (some of) the town already suspected and might have been lynched anyway? If the vigilante killed Kame, then we can disregard that last statement.It was, in fact, the Vigilante. Good eye.

I think there were only two mafia hits last night. Doctor probably stopped one and inferno was the 2nd.You are correct! Doctor DevliN saved you, in fact, from poison_us' rifle shot.

I vote Aristo.

I'm mafia though, guys.Uhh, I know people joke, but did anyone else notice this?You're watching the wrong person: poison is doing this on an equally frequently basis, and he actually is mafia. I think Bio gave you tunnel-vision on this behavior.

OlimarandLouie: Investigate BiOAtk
Observer12425: Protect Fire_Kame
DevliN: Protect Stacy Keibler
poison_us: Hit Stacy Keibler
FaRTy1billion: Hit lil-Inferno


The second half was to tie into the idea that the shooter was on the players' apartments. "Readied" and "held steady" are words to describe the person as poised. Therefore, from the players' perspective, the shooter was "poised on us."


This is an incorrect usage of jealousy. Since the speaker does not have any of what he wants, he is envious. Envy -> "Green with envy" -> FaRTy1billion by name color.

Raccoon: Hit Fire_Kame
OlimarandLouie: Investigate Fire_Kame
Lanthanide: Hit DevliN
FaRTy1billion: Hit rayNimagi
OlimarandLouie: Investigate Lanthanide
Observer12425: Protect DevliN
DevliN: Protect rayNimagi
poison_us: Hit NudeRaider


"Under" is short for underscore. The away team is typically proceeding the home team's score, so there are 4 more "points" (characters) on the left side of the underscore than the right. This is describing poison_us' name.


Er is the symbol for Erbium on the periodic chart, an element of the lanthanide series.


A standard hangman's noose has 13 rings. 13 + 1 = 14, the player number for FaRTy1billion.

Raccoon: Hit BiOAtK
OlimarandLouie: Investigate Observer12425
poison_us: Hit Stacy Keibler
FaRTy1billion: Hit l)ark_ssj9kevin
poison_us: Hit l)ark_ssj9kevin
poison_us: Hit rayNimagi
FaRTy1billion: Hit rayNimagi


Light switches are binary: on or off. Each digit in binary represents a number by an exponent of 2.
001 = 1
010 = 2
100 = 4

All lights were left on to indicate that each digit is significant, but they were initially toggled individually to signify that you don't add them together (which would give you 7, a useless number for this game). In this case, 124 is FaRTy1billion's Member Id.

DevliN: Protect Observer12425
OlimarandLouie: Investigate poison_us
OlimarandLouie: Investigate Leon-037
Observer12425: Protect OlimarandLouie


One concern of environmentalists is that the animal-farming we do (such as from cattle) is causing higher methane levels. FaRTy1billion by name.


There's no mention of burial in the cycle, and bodies that are not buried properly run a risk of poisoning the water supply and spreading disease. poison_us by name.

FaRTy1billion: Hit Generalpie
DevliN: Protect Observer12425
OlimarandLouie: Investigate Stacy Keibler


Mind Control -> FaRTy1billion via avatar.


Two Dark Templar make a Dark Archon. FaRTy1billion via avatar.


There are four electron things in FaRTy1billion's avatar.

Additionally, in that post block, the only numbers explicitly mentioned were, in order, one, two, and four. FaRTy1billion's member ID is 124.

Bar Rafaeli: Hit Tempz
DevliN: Protect Observer12425
FaRTy1billion: Hit Stacy Keibler
OlimarandLouie: Investigate FaRTy1billion

No clues.