Post has been edited 30 time(s), last time on Aug 23 2017, 6:09 pm by Pr0nogo.

Think Jailor should only be able to execute once and then the role is lost. Besides isn't 13 roles a bit much?

As said above: Some roles are only present if there are enough players to support them.

There will be a minimum of 1 mayor, 2 special town roles, 2 citizens, 2 disciples, and 1 neutral, which accounts for 8 players. Since the last game had 12 I balanced around a high and low estimate. There is a chance that not all roles will be used even if we get 14+ players.

I'm not sure how to balance the jailor since they can't use their execute until 2 nights after the mayor reveals himself, because the mayor has to pass the legislation first. The mayor may also choose to prioritize the extra utility of the detective or the doctor for the first night after their reveal (each unlock costs a night action), further prolonging the time before the jailor can access their execution action. I think I'll do what you suggest though, since if jailor doesn't choose to execute, they can continue to jail. There's also the chance of the jailor not being in the game at all.

If your or anyone else have any further suggestions, let me know.

Cool. In.

Hope I win this mafia too

Better make a role without a win condition just for you

If anyone is confused on the wording let me know. Some of these mechanics are new-ish and I might not have explained stuff in the best manner. I'll probably carry over voting rules and such from Dem0n's mafia thread when I make the live topic.

A word of advice: Having three factions has never really worked well. The "other" faction always gets eliminated within the first few days and nothing comes of it. Also, it'll probably be tough to get enough players to warrant a third faction. I'd come up with a backup plan to only have the classic Town and Mafia if you can't get enough players to fulfill all three factions.

Modern implementations of the game (like Town of Salem) have these types of roles, the most well-known being Jester (victory if voted to be hanged). Small odds are still odds.

In.

Clues!

I'm in!

My bad, I think I misread it. I thought the third faction was a team that worked together to beat the other two like the Cult. Didn't realize they're just independent players trying to win for themselves.

Ah heck, I can't promise to have time for much more than using my powers / voting, but it seems you have put a good bit of thought into it. Hopefully this will get me interested enough to make more time.

I'm in.

In a shoutbox, discussion was had on the topic of clues potentially being too obvious for players with blunt names (such as inferno). Though fueled in part by hyperbole, I wanted to clear this much up: the clues aren't going to serve as an additional investigative role by outing the perpetrator of a night action. I likely won't use much of their namesake if I use it at all. Single slices of their avatar/signature or bits and pieces that reference something they do are the most obvious, and even those would need to be written in such a way that they could be damning, or could be of no significance at all. I don't want players feeling like they can't sign up because they'll be outed the second a clue is dropped. The point of these subtle clues is that people might not even get the clue. Misdirection is important here, while also still delivering something of substance, so I'll probably focus more on the roles themselves first to help players identify which roles have been selected before I drop clues as to who done it.

Unfortunately there's a pretty big issue with mafia games that players have to deal with: the first death. Nobody wants to be the first one to 'lose'. However, if you add in some weird revive or bodyjump mechanic, you run a pretty big risk of nullifying the impact of a killing role's night action, which also doesn't feel good. Making dead people still matter is something that rarely happens in mafia games, and I don't know what a solution to that design challenge would actually be. I'm open to suggestions, though.

Yes, neutral/unaligned players serve only themselves, though they may forge alliances with one faction or another as they see fit. I only placed three neutral roles for now but I think there's potential to further differentiate neutral roles by having two categories: neutral evil for roles that want the town/everyone to die, and neutral benign for roles that aren't necessarily at odds with the town. Things like witch and arsonist would be in the evil category while amnesiac and survivor are more suited for the benign one. Maybe in the next mafia I host, I'll procure some more neutral roles, but they won't be too common unless we have sufficient signups anyways.

Added everyone to the list. Thanks for the interest.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 25 2017, 10:45 am by Pr0nogo.

I will join the hunt.

Let's try this again. xD

In.

LET'S GO! IN!

In at slot 69 as long as there aren't any clues related to fire.

in b4 a clue uses lil instead of little

I will leave signups open until the 31st (6 days from now) or until we have 12+ players - whichever comes first.

I'm in

Meh I guess I will sign up. Been a while since I have played SEN mafia ha.