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Excision
Jun 25 2017, 12:44 am
By: Voyager7456  

Jun 25 2017, 12:44 am Voyager7456 Post #1

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Since there's been a lot of interest in collaboration and I've worked out some of the bugs in the core systems, I'm ready to talk about and announce my latest modding project:

Excision
A cooperative fight for humanity's survival

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My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Jun 25 2017, 12:51 am Pr0nogo Post #2



Looks incredibly promising for co-op experiences. I'm a big fan of co-op vs AI stuff. Let me know if you need any testers for it.

Will there be a campaign, or just a few scenario maps designed for repeat plays?




Jun 25 2017, 1:03 am Voyager7456 Post #3

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There will not be a campaign or dedicated maps for this. The mod is designed to be played in Melee mode vs. a Zerg AI.

I'm certainly going to be looking for testers, but there's still a fair bit of work to be done before that point. I think people know how "balance challenged" I am, so I'll definitely be looking for help from the community in that aspect. :P

I'm also open to any suggestions you or anyone else has to improve the co-op vs. AI experience.



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Modding Resources: The Necromodicon [WIP] | Mod Night
My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Jun 25 2017, 1:11 am Pr0nogo Post #4



I'd have to play to give good suggestions but making 1 zerg AI a good challenge for 2-3 players would probably be a good balance so parties of different sizes are all able to have good fun with the mod. Otherwise I'll refrain from specific suggestions until I play it.




Jul 3 2017, 9:57 pm Voyager7456 Post #5

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Progress on this has been going quite well. All of the core systems have been implemented and I've been working on developing units, as well as doing a bit of graphics work. I'm going to start having semi-regular updates showcasing a few of the units you'll face , as well as the technology you can develop to counter them.


This is the Warlock, a mid-game support unit that is sort of the Infected equivalent to a Medic. They're relatively squishy for Infected units at this stage, which is fortunate because they have a number of aggravating abilities that will make you want to focus them down.


First and foremost, they can heal nearby Infected units. However, unlike Medics, they also have a ranged attack and are capable of healing multiple Infected at once.

Secondly, their Psionic Static passive ability makes life difficult for enemy spellcasters - whenever an enemy unit uses a spell in a certain radius of the Warlock, a fraction of that spell's energy cost is dealt to them as damage.

Finally, in the late game Warlocks can be upgraded to gain an infuriating new ability:


Wounded Warlocks will sometimes cast Destiny Bond, psionically linking themselves to the target so that when the Warlock goes...


...it takes the enemy unit with it as well.

Cautious commanders may wish to neutralize the Warlock's spellcasting abilities before forcing an engagement. Support-oriented ones may want to upgrade Restoration to deal with this nasty trick. Or perhaps more aggressive players will just decide this is a cost they're willing to pay. No matter how you choose to deal with them though, Warlocks are sure to be a thorn in your side from the moment they hit the battlefield.



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Modding Resources: The Necromodicon [WIP] | Mod Night
My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Jul 3 2017, 10:05 pm Pr0nogo Post #6



You've got some interesting abilities already. Is the heal area-of-effect or is it able to affect a minimum number of units around it, like a modified medic heal that can accept multiple targets?

If you need wireframes or kitbashed/recolored portraits for your units, I can probably whip something up. Stroluum's portrait from Inconsummate might do you some good for the Warlock.




Jul 3 2017, 10:19 pm Voyager7456 Post #7

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Currently the heal is an AoE effect. I may decide to tweak the abilities though.

I haven't gotten around to doing any portrait/wireframe stuff, but I will probably take you up on it when it becomes time.



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Modding Resources: The Necromodicon [WIP] | Mod Night
My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Jul 4 2017, 2:44 am Black_Overseer Post #8



here you go :)




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Jul 4 2017, 2:47 am Voyager7456 Post #9

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Quote from Black_Overseer
here you go :)



Thanks! That's very kind of you!



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My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Jul 8 2017, 2:56 pm Pr0nogo Post #10



I had an idea for this mod where units that succumbed to infestation would chrysalize for a short time. Turning the units into durable eggs/cocoons depending on whether they were ground/air would be a cool way to show the infestation process, and good occur quickly for weaker units and slower for larger units. I can make a bigger egg and cocoon graphic for larger units if you decide to go with that idea.




Jul 8 2017, 3:02 pm Voyager7456 Post #11

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That is a really interesting idea. I'll have to give it some thought as to how that would work technically, but I think that'd be a neat touch as opposed to the instantaneous transformation.



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Modding Resources: The Necromodicon [WIP] | Mod Night
My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Aug 2 2017, 9:34 pm FlameViper Post #12



I wouldn't do that unless I had a very good idea for how it will work. It just adds another layer of requirement before infecting the unit. Maybe if it was used in specific missions or enabled/disabled from the options gameplay menu. You know what happens? You complicate it too much. For example let's say in any video game the power-up item was given by a captured civillian which you had to rescue, rather than having the power-up just sitting there. In Super Mario you have the mushroom power-ups moving in a random direction, to make it challenging and annoying as hell if it falls in a hole.

Chrysalises would only work if any unit could pick them up and heal/infect/research them quickly or do something more intelligent with them.
Otherwise having stationary objects for the sake of animation/loading is useless outside of how good it looks/presentation

A good example is that if a unit dies, it leaves a carcass. Instead of directly getting minerals and research, you would have to grab all the eggs/dead bodies and send them back to base safely. (without slowing down your units or giving them any disatvantage, perhaps give them an advantage)
Only allowing drones/scvs to pick up things means nobody will bother too much, especially when scvs are squishy and eat too much supply. But if the combat units could pick them up right there then that would save you at least one trip and far less players would feel lazy doing it. Either combat units or 1 special armored truck unit that picks them up for harvesting. The other issue is micro-managing your units. Luckily workers mine automatically.

An interesting option for the late game would be AI upgrades for spells. The medic would learn to automatically restore units. That would change the gameplay by lowering the micro-ing and making large battles with heavy use of spellcasters more feasible. The High Templar could have used an auto storm AI (without potentially killing your own units)

Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Aug 2 2017, 9:43 pm by FlameViper.



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Aug 2 2017, 10:14 pm Voyager7456 Post #13

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I'm not too concerned about the complexity of picking up unit viscera with workers. It does add an additional thing to worry about, but on the other hand since it's entirely cooperative and players share research, there's a bit of mitigation. Only one out of 4-5 players necessarily have to worry about it.

The reason I find the cocoon idea interesting is that it offers another chance for mitigation. You have a few seconds to deal with a unit turning rather than having it immediately flip.



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Modding Resources: The Necromodicon [WIP] | Mod Night
My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


Nov 30 2017, 12:19 am FlameViper Post #14



How is the project coming along?



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Nov 30 2017, 9:52 pm Voyager7456 Post #15

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I have been working on another project, for which I will be releasing a beta very shortly. After that wraps, I will be returning to Excision.

The two projects share a fair bit of code, so I've been able to eliminate a number of issues that would have affected this mod as well while testing the other project.



Look out and there's no atmosphere
No sign of life, it's only us here
We float along, no direction
No gravity, no recollection


Modding Resources: The Necromodicon [WIP] | Mod Night
My Projects: SCFC | ARAI | Excision [WIP] | SCFC2 [BETA] | Robots vs. Humans | Leviathan Wakes [BETA]


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