Most of the forums has a degree, is persuing a degree, or will be getting a degree soon. So I'm sure most of you have realized that at a certain point 99.9% of you and your peers will look down on other students seeking other degrees. Kinda like when you, on the way to your Environments of International Business class, see a guy wearing a shirt that says "Globalization kills" with the twin towers in flames, and you immediately think, "that kid must be a tool, or at least a music major." Is that too mean to you? Probably. But I'm sure most of you will at some point think in the back of your head one of the following phrases: "I always knew he was a blood sucker, it makes perfect sense he went into business. Exploit this, cockbite!" "history? HA! Enjoy trivia night buddy, that's all it'll ever do for you." "Psychology? Get the fuck away from we, psycho. I don't need someone analyzing my every move."

Anyways, I hope you found this topic abrasive. Now vote in the poll, no explanation needed.

And for the rest of you who believe that multiple degrees can exist in harmony, here is here is this.

EDIT: LOL TYPO sry

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I don't has one. Yet.

I look down on most humanities degrees. Compared to Medical and Technical degrees, they're just so easy to get...

By the way, a double major for Chemistry and Mathematics isn't on that list of 6, Kame.

Considering getting at least minor in physics as well, thoughts?

lolololol no one gives a shit about minors. if you can't major in it, don't bother unless you want to cause you enjoy it.

also make sure you can finish the double major without being in college for 800 years, that 2nd B.S. might not be worth it if it takes you extra time

Seconded. From what I've seen, unless the minor directly relates to a major (I guess physics could relate to mathematics, maybe? depending on what you do with it I guess), certifications mean more.

Premeds kill people and play with dead bodies
Lawyers live lives of lies
Communications majors are deluded into thinking people actually give a shit about what they have to convey.
English Majors will not find any jobs and so become Grammar Nazis on the internet forums
Philosophy Majors become crazy and confused after years of critical introspection
Business people sell their souls to money and corruption

Engineers ftw

Dual focus in CS and Software Engineering.

My degree is a joke; my program will probably be losing accreditation shortly or I lose what little faith I had left in public education.

Wut. Degrees aren't public education. <_<.;

State funded university, on a fully state funded scholarship. I'd say it's about as public as it gets.

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By the way, a double major for Chemistry and Mathematics isn't on that list of 6, Kame.

Considering getting at least minor in physics as well, thoughts?

lolololol no one gives a shit about minors. if you can't major in it, don't bother unless you want to cause you enjoy it.

also make sure you can finish the double major without being in college for 800 years, that 2nd B.S. might not be worth it if it takes you extra time

Seconded. From what I've seen, unless the minor directly relates to a major (I guess physics could relate to mathematics, maybe? depending on what you do with it I guess), certifications mean more.

I already worked out the Chemistry + Mathematics fine. We need like 110 or so credit hours to graduate. I need 53 hours for Chem (8 of which are in Math, and another 8 in Physics anyways), 25 hours for Math (ignoring the 8), and I checked about Physics and no major/minor is offered anyways
The 78 hours I have locked in for those majors leave some room for the other 20ish hours of Gen. Ed. classes.

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English Majors will not find any jobs and so become Grammar Nazis on the internet forums

I'm a grammar Nazi, does that mean I should get an English degree?

Yes.

MA, SECRETENGINEERHIGHFIVE!

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Bit of clarity on how it works over in the US please?

In the UK you start your degree. It is assumed to be an honours degree provided you meet certain criteria (ie. not failing). Each year is split up in to two Semesters (3 actually, but only 2 are for teaching). And in each Semester you have to gain +120 Credit Points. You get Credit Points by enrolling in different Modules. A Module is worth 10 to 40 credit points depending on how difficult / time-consuming it is thought to be.

So, in my First and Second years, I studied modules in Geology, Archaeology, Anthropology, Marine Law, Computer Science (Ruby/Networking on Rails etc), GIS Mapping techniques, Cartography. This was on top of the 2 or 3 modules which were compulsory for Geography students, which I am.

Now in Third year, I have a wider selection of modules, but they are all relating to Geography. So, in this first semester (half) of Third Year I am doing a research and theory course about Geography, Transport Geography, and Planning Methods and Appraisals.

If all goes well, in my 4th year I will write a dissertation, 10,000 to 25,000 words on any subject of my choosing. Once this has been submitted, marked, remarked, checked and validated. I will get my degree. Degree's range from scoring like so:

1-1 First Honours
2-1 Second Class Honours
2-2 Lower Second Honours
3-3 Third Class Honours
Fail, no Degree.

Basically, anything less than a 2-1 is considered a failure. Most employers, in fact, all employers who seek employees with a degree, will require a 2-1 minimum. There are just so many graduates each year that employers can afford to be picky.

Take this example, a graduate entry-level job working in the field of GIS (Geographical Information Systems), which is basically Databases meet Google Earth and are applied in anything from prospecting for Oil/minerals to building new housing complexes. Minimum requirements to get this job are the 1-1 (best of your class) degree. But, on top of this, they look for experiencing using ArcGIS (the industry standard software), and also, knowledge about Java, Python, C++ and working with relational databases.... Your university degree only ticks one of your boxes. You need to physically make an effort to pick up the other skills if you want this job badly. And even then, the job only pays £20,000 a year. Which is on the very low end of graduate pay grades.

As I mentioned before, if you fail or just don't work hard enough, your degree becomes normal. As in, not Honours. You don't do a dissertation and you finish after 3 years. Your degree will simply be BSc Geography, or MA History of Art. As opposed to BSc Hons Geography or MA Hons History of Art. This is worse than getting a 3-3 degree.

Then again, most students need to go on to undertake a Post-Graduate degree to further specialise themselves. These post-graduate degrees take 1 year to complete and are really difficult. So, for example, I might do my dissertation on "Applying GIS to the transport sector account for behavioural chance and decision making across modal splitting" - which is a pretty hard question and hasn't been done before so you get extra marks for originality... Then I would have to go on to do a Post Graduate degree in say C programming, or a lengthy course learning Python, Java, C, and as many other programming languages as I could.

US:
Each degree is assigned a certain number of classes and "humanities" requirements. There are a number of assigned classes (everyone in engineering has to take E101), but there are a number of optional classes too (you can take any three of BAE401, BAE402, BAE471, BAE472, BAE473).
You will eventually graduate with a certain grade point average (A is 4.0, B is 3.0, some colleges award a third of a point for +/-).

Depending on the college, you'll either get a Bachelor's or Associate's degree. If you continue into grad school, you can get a Masters (usually 2 years) or a Doctorate (usually 4 years).

You can graduate with honors if you have a high enough GPA (suma/magna/cum laude). You can also graduate with other honors (like the honors programs) if you take enough honors classes.

Tech and community colleges are sometimes different.

As a biological engineer, I don't like my degree (mainly because I don't have a job yet). Perhaps some other engineering, though I do think engineering is the best degree due to the practicality of it. Every engineer is a scientist, a teacher, and a historian rolled together into one.

Though I like the engineer-glorification, I don't see how an engineering degree makes one a teacher/historian more than any other degree.

I agree, though, that engineering is awesome. Engineers and scientists are what keep our society chugging forward, and you can do a lot with them. My father got an electrical engineering degree in the USSR, and the background in computer science led him to build a very successful career in programming here in the states. It's flexible.

I'll admit, I do look down on people that have certain degrees... especially art degrees. My school has a strong technical program (CS, engineering, hard sciences, etc) and for some reason, a big art program too. The two groups are very antagonistic with each other.

Art students here complain endlessly about going to such a nerdy school, and it's really annoying. Protip: don't pick a college with "Institute of Technology" in its name then, dumbasses.

Antagonistic? Not at DigiPen

Not at Cooper either. We have Engineering, Architecture and Art programs - I don't look down on the Art students here because from what I can tell they're working as hard as those in any other program here, if not more .

Cecil, how would you know? (BUUUUUUN)

Are you planning on staying on your programme or are you thinking of changing it? What motivates people to do a degree they don't think will give them the best cahnces in the future? Quite a few peopple I know back from home (Latvia) went to absolutely shit unis/degrees knowingly, even though better options were right in front of them. Have you decided on this because it's state-funded?

I LIVE NEXT TO THE SCHOOL

All my fwends go to school and I talk to them