[quote=name:DT_Battlekruser][color=#b5b5ff]By society? That's why I hate it :P I ran across an excellent opinion on the subject on some other forum somewhere (JapanToday, Google tells me).[/color] [quote] ... When did "friendship" become a "bad word"? Can there be "love", without "friendship"? True, a person can mean that a significant other is more than a "friend", but this should not discount friendship as an element of their bond. Without friendship, the relationship appears to have suspect motives and arguably can be very coercive and problematic. Hmmmm... Maybe that is also part of the reason that divorce rates are so high or "love" turns to "hate" so quickly. But then that also brings up the point of people and societies having to be honest about sex and enjoying sex, as oppose to mislabeling "love"...[/quote][/quote] You should always love your friends, and always be friends with your lovers. [quote=name:Voyager7456][quote=name:EcHo] That's bullshit about how men's bodies are genetically programmed to like sex.[/quote] Ummmm, no... Sex is pleasurable, at least physically. We've evolved that way so that we are encouraged to pass on our genes. You can be averse to having sex, but you can't deny the human body is built for it. :P[/quote] Your sex isn't mentally pleasurable? :(

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By society? That's why I hate it

I ran across an excellent opinion on the subject on some other forum somewhere (JapanToday, Google tells me).

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When did "friendship" become a "bad word"? Can there be "love", without "friendship"?

True, a person can mean that a significant other is more than a "friend", but this should not discount friendship as an element of their bond. Without friendship, the relationship appears to have suspect motives and arguably can be very coercive and problematic. Hmmmm... Maybe that is also part of the reason that divorce rates are so high or "love" turns to "hate" so quickly. But then that also brings up the point of people and societies having to be honest about sex and enjoying sex, as oppose to mislabeling "love"...

You should always love your friends, and always be friends with your lovers.

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That's bullshit about how men's bodies are genetically programmed to like sex.

Ummmm, no... Sex is pleasurable, at least physically. We've evolved that way so that we are encouraged to pass on our genes.

You can be averse to having sex, but you can't deny the human body is built for it.

Your sex isn't mentally pleasurable?

And I suppose people have been having sex for the past millennium only because they saw it as necessary to preserve the species. Everyone is thinking "survival" when they get into bed.

And I suppose people have been having sex for the past millennium only because they saw it as necessary to preserve the species.
Everyone is thinking "survival" when they get into bed.

I don't think it'd be as effective if you were consciously aware of it.

I don't think it'd be as effective if you were consciously aware of it.

I once dated a guy...who told me sex was completely animalistic...I said if that's true, then why does he use condoms? Besides building a relationship on sex has dangerous consequences. For one, its a male's performance that fails first in the bedroom... :P

I once dated a guy...who told me sex was completely animalistic...I said if that's true, then why does he use condoms?

Besides building a relationship on sex has dangerous consequences. For one, its a male's performance that fails first in the bedroom...

[quote=name:Syphon]Fuck that. I hate initiating relationships. I don't think I've ever actually asked a girl out.[/quote] [color=#CE091D]:omfg: I thought you were... Nah, nevermind. Hmmm but I get your point. Initiating a relationship sucks. [/color] [quote=name:A_of-s_t] ...thank god I have a girlfriend already. :P[/quote] [color=#CE091D]Heh, same here. And it is [b][i][u]VERY[/u][/i][/b] obvious that the guy likes the girl... In my opinion. Or he could be a prick as Kame said, but for now I will stick to the first theory. I understand what it says in Japanese. Me does translation, anyone?[/color]

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Fuck that. I hate initiating relationships. I don't think I've ever actually asked a girl out.

I thought you were... Nah, nevermind. Hmmm but I get your point. Initiating a relationship sucks.

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...thank god I have a girlfriend already.

Heh, same here.
And it is VERY obvious that the guy likes the girl... In my opinion. Or he could be a prick as Kame said, but for now I will stick to the first theory. I understand what it says in Japanese. Me does translation, anyone?

Maybe the guy's just scared of what the girl might answer if he asked her out. You never know if a girl really loves you or not >.<

Maybe the guy's just scared of what the girl might answer if he asked her out. You never know if a girl really loves you or not >.<

[quote=name:-_- Kame -_-]I once dated a guy...who told me sex was completely animalistic...I said if that's true, then why does he use condoms? Besides building a relationship on sex has dangerous consequences. For one, its a male's performance that fails first in the bedroom... :P[/quote] Dangerous consequences if the sex is bad. :cool:

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I once dated a guy...who told me sex was completely animalistic...I said if that's true, then why does he use condoms?

Besides building a relationship on sex has dangerous consequences. For one, its a male's performance that fails first in the bedroom...

Dangerous consequences if the sex is bad.

[quote]I understand what it says in Japanese.[/quote] [color=#b5b5ff]Doesn't everyone? [i]ganbatte[/i] = go for it.[/color]

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I understand what it says in Japanese.

Doesn't everyone? ganbatte = go for it.

[color=#CE091D]Most hate anime enough like to [i]not[/i] know that.[/color]

Most hate anime enough like to not know that.

[quote=name:EcHo]You can't really tell if he likes her or not. I'm chasing after this girl and we really developed something but I think I'm still in the friend zone. She leaves opportunities for me to jump in, or at least that's what I'm thinking, but I don't take it because I think that I am taking what he is sending off wrong. Maybe he is just scared to initiate, so either one of them should just grow balls and confront! /Hypocrite[/quote]That's what my friend did... she'd drop hints all over the place but I wasn't sure if they were true hints or if I just suck at reading them. Looking back I feel like an idiot for not recognizing them more clearly... [quote=name:Rantent]It's because our society doesn't understand how to relax enough to take time off to care for each other. Besides, when your a guy, you get laughed at if you bring up the mushy stuff in a relationship.[/quote]Psh. I make hand-rolled heart-shaped truffles for girls I find attractive. ^^ Also with little teddy bears with little green bowes.. all sorts of chocolates. Could that be considered mushy stuff? I just handed them to her in the middle of a crowded hallway and was like 'LOLIHAZPREZENT!<3' and she's like ":O! *hug*" [quote=name:Anonymous][quote=name:EcHo]Yeah, [b]I don't really like the idea and concept of sex. I could live without it[/b] and I prefer to have a great relationship with a girl.[/quote] Impossible on both counts. Mens' bodies are genetically programmed to like sex, to spread seed, and your parents had sex, so you couldn't live without it, neh?[/quote]Eh. Animals fulfill that purpose better... I don't think most of them do it just for lulz. Humans have sex whenever, whether or not the female is in the proper menstrual phase (or whatever you want to label it as)... and it is monthly, rather than seasonally. >.> [quote=name:Clokr_]Maybe the guy's just scared of what the girl might answer if he asked her out. You never know if a girl really loves you or not >.<[/quote]lol, I hear so many people tell girls "If you like a guy, just say it. Skip all this hinting stuff." Hmm. I can see how hints help in the girls perspective, I suppose...

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You can't really tell if he likes her or not. I'm chasing after this girl and we really developed something but I think I'm still in the friend zone. She leaves opportunities for me to jump in, or at least that's what I'm thinking, but I don't take it because I think that I am taking what he is sending off wrong. Maybe he is just scared to initiate, so either one of them should just grow balls and confront! /Hypocrite

That's what my friend did... she'd drop hints all over the place but I wasn't sure if they were true hints or if I just suck at reading them. Looking back I feel like an idiot for not recognizing them more clearly...

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It's because our society doesn't understand how to relax enough to take time off to care for each other. Besides, when your a guy, you get laughed at if you bring up the mushy stuff in a relationship.

Psh. I make hand-rolled heart-shaped truffles for girls I find attractive. Also with little teddy bears with little green bowes.. all sorts of chocolates. Could that be considered mushy stuff? I just handed them to her in the middle of a crowded hallway and was like 'LOLIHAZPREZENT!<3' and she's like ":O! *hug*"

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Yeah, I don't really like the idea and concept of sex. I could live without it and I prefer to have a great relationship with a girl.

Impossible on both counts.
Mens' bodies are genetically programmed to like sex, to spread seed, and your parents had sex, so you couldn't live without it, neh?

Eh. Animals fulfill that purpose better... I don't think most of them do it just for lulz. Humans have sex whenever, whether or not the female is in the proper menstrual phase (or whatever you want to label it as)... and it is monthly, rather than seasonally. >.>

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Maybe the guy's just scared of what the girl might answer if he asked her out. You never know if a girl really loves you or not >.<

lol, I hear so many people tell girls "If you like a guy, just say it. Skip all this hinting stuff." Hmm. I can see how hints help in the girls perspective, I suppose...

Actually... maybe these two shouldn't date... I know I like having this friend that I flirt with all the time -- and they flirt back. Its always fun having a friend to do that with.

Actually... maybe these two shouldn't date... I know I like having this friend that I flirt with all the time -- and they flirt back. Its always fun having a friend to do that with.