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"Official" Mafia host order
Dec 1 2012, 9:38 pm
By: poison_us
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#1 :: Do you prefer Comrade Azrael's method, or the legacy "first-come-first-serve" method?
#1 :: Do you prefer Comrade Azrael's method, or the legacy "first-come-first-serve" method?
Answer Votes Percentage % Voters
I prefer the fairer version of mafia hosting presented by Azrael 3
 
25%
I prefer the first-come-first-serve method that's worked for uncountable millenia 2
 
17%
I have no preference 0
 
0%
None.
Obligatory "other" category 3
 
25%
I'm wasting my vote to show contempt for poison jokingly labeling Azrael as a "comrade" 4
 
34%
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Srs time, Azrael's method or the traditional method?
Srs time, Azrael's method or the traditional method?
Answer Votes Percentage % Voters
Azrael's time-based method. 8
 
80%
Traditional method of staking claims. 2
 
20%
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Poll has 10 votes. You can vote for at most 1 option(s).

Dec 15 2012, 11:33 pm Generalpie Post #21

Staredit Puckwork

I'd like to host as well.



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Dec 16 2012, 1:00 am Raitaki Post #22



Oh cra-
Say, you guys wanna do a social experiment Mafia round where no communications are allowed, except for voting, claiming, claiming night results, vote counting and quoting other people's post? :wtfawesome:



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Dec 16 2012, 1:31 am Dem0n Post #23

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Quote from Raitaki
Oh cra-
Say, you guys wanna do a social experiment Mafia round where no communications are allowed, except for voting, claiming, claiming night results, vote counting and quoting other people's post? :wtfawesome:
No.




Dec 16 2012, 4:11 am Observer12425 Post #24



Is it unreasonable to call a halt to the game for Christmas and the few days surrounding it?



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Dec 16 2012, 6:12 am poison_us Post #25

Back* from the grave

Quote from Generalpie
I'd like to host as well.
Added.
Quote from Raitaki
Oh cra-
Say, you guys wanna do a social experiment Mafia round where no communications are allowed, except for voting, claiming, claiming night results, vote counting and quoting other people's post? :wtfawesome:
Sure, we love that idea just like we love the artwork of our 4 year old. It'll go on the fridge right next to the drawing of us outside our house!
Quote from Observer12425
Is it unreasonable to call a halt to the game for Christmas and the few days surrounding it?
That's the idea behind me not even posting my game stuffs until after Christmas.





Dec 16 2012, 6:20 am Raitaki Post #26



Okay then, I'd like to postpone until after Christmas too ;o



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Dec 16 2012, 6:35 am Azrael Post #27



Generalpie, who's never had the chance to host a Mafia game, shouldn't be stuck behind two people that just hosted a couple months ago (Demon and Inferno).

poison, host yours next after the holidays. After your game, we can start using the new system, it'll be a seamless transition since both have the same people at the top of the list.

Nothing actually needs to be kept track of either. When it's time to host a new game, whoever wants to host just says so. Of those people, whoever has gone the longest without hosting gets to host.

Edit: By the way, I like your sig :P

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 16 2012, 6:47 am by Azrael.




Dec 16 2012, 7:45 am Generalpie Post #28

Staredit Puckwork

Quote from Azrael
Edit: By the way, I like your sig :P

Who's...?

Anyway, I'm still working on the mechanics on mine, so I'm not sure if it will be ready in time anyway. I have something special and complicated planned :awesome:



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Dec 16 2012, 2:52 pm ClansAreForGays Post #29



Quote from Fire_Kame
For the record, after a lot of thought, I am going to host a traditional mafia game.
Finally. I'll be down for that




Dec 16 2012, 5:35 pm Roy Post #30

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

"Finally"? We did it two games ago. It's still on the front page of Null. :P




Dec 16 2012, 6:19 pm Dem0n Post #31

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Quote from Azrael
Generalpie, who's never had the chance to host a Mafia game, shouldn't be stuck behind two people that just hosted a couple months ago (Demon and Inferno).

poison, host yours next after the holidays. After your game, we can start using the new system, it'll be a seamless transition since both have the same people at the top of the list.

Nothing actually needs to be kept track of either. When it's time to host a new game, whoever wants to host just says so. Of those people, whoever has gone the longest without hosting gets to host.

Edit: By the way, I like your sig :P
What the new system? Is it what you proposed earlier in the thread about people who haven't hosted getting first dibs?




Dec 16 2012, 6:49 pm Fire_Kame Post #32

wth is starcraft

Quote from Azrael
Generalpie, who's never had the chance to host a Mafia game, shouldn't be stuck behind two people that just hosted a couple months ago (Demon and Inferno).

poison, host yours next after the holidays. After your game, we can start using the new system, it'll be a seamless transition since both have the same people at the top of the list.

Nothing actually needs to be kept track of either. When it's time to host a new game, whoever wants to host just says so. Of those people, whoever has gone the longest without hosting gets to host.

Edit: By the way, I like your sig :P
No, god no. No new system. Christ. And we started keeping track because Aristocrat cut in line accidentally. There is no reason to complicate the system, and you're the only one who wants to do it your way.

I'm alright with waiting until after the holidays too.




Dec 16 2012, 7:09 pm rayNimagi Post #33



Quote from Fire_Kame
There is no reason to complicate the system, and you're the only one who wants to do it your way.


It's really not that complicated. It's just whoever hosted most recently is placed in the back of the line.

Also, I'd be willing to play Mafia during Christmas, if someone is going to host.



Win by luck, lose by skill.

Dec 16 2012, 7:27 pm Fire_Kame Post #34

wth is starcraft

That's stupid, because I signed up when I did because by me estimate it'd be a good time to host. If I got bumped to the front I'd have to cancel, and it wouldn't be fair if I cut in front of people to host just because I hadn't done it when they had been waiting for months.




Dec 16 2012, 11:32 pm Azrael Post #35



Quote from Fire_Kame
There is no reason to complicate the system

It's not complicated at all. It's actually less complicated.

Quote from Fire_Kame
you're the only one who wants to do it your way.

No, I stated a long time ago I'd start working on a new system, due to the fact no one likes this list-keeping shit.

I get that you haven't been around long enough to understand that these lists are extremely ineffective. I understand you've yet to experience how badly these lists work; people constantly switching spots, failing to follow through, not being able to finish or even start their game because it came at an inconvenient time, hosts no longer being active members when their turn comes up, people hosting much more frequently than anyone else because they keep adding themselves to the list, people forgetting who is on the list, people ignoring who is on the list because it isn't fair, people just making a new list because the old one is deemed irrelevant, and the list goes on.

I know that you have yet to see how poorly these lists work, how inefficiently and unfairly they operate, how much work goes into maintaining them, and how quickly they become completely irrelevant over time. However, you should also know that you don't know these things, and not act as if you do.

Don't speak on the behalf of everyone when you don't even have enough experience to speak on behalf of yourself.

Quote from Fire_Kame
If I got bumped to the front I'd have to cancel

Obviously you don't comprehend how the system works. There is no list to get bumped to the front of. When it's time to host a game, whoever wants to host says so then; not six months ahead of time. The person who's gone the longest without hosting gets to host.

If you're not ready to host, you won't even be a consideration. Only people who want to host the next game will be considered.

It really isn't that complicated.




Dec 16 2012, 11:56 pm Lanthanide Post #36



Quote from Azrael
It's not complicated at all. It's actually less complicated.
It is actually quite straight forward. I think your description of it made it sound complicated, though.

Since the list only matters at the time when the next mafia game is going to be started (and who determines that, anyway?), there's actually no point in maintaining it between times. There's no point keeping a list with 9 peoples names on it and numbers etc, if when it comes to host the next game only 3 people are interested. You might as well just compile a new list of those 3 people at that point. Then, because it is such a simple algorithm, you might as well just say "out of you 3, we'll pick the person who hasn't hosted Mafia recently". Really bothering with numbers just clutters it up.



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Dec 17 2012, 12:24 am Azrael Post #37



Yeah, I regret bringing numbers into it :P I thought it would sound more professional or something to quantify the mechanics of it lol.

It's easier to just state it in an intuitive way, as you've described.




Dec 17 2012, 1:32 am Fire_Kame Post #38

wth is starcraft

In that case I'll probably drop from the hosting portion altogether, as I chose a time in March(ish) intentionally so that I'd have both more experience and I'd be available.




Dec 17 2012, 4:17 am rayNimagi Post #39



Quote from Azrael
When it's time to host a game, whoever wants to host says so then; not six months ahead of time. The person who's gone the longest without hosting gets to host.
^This explains it all.

Right now, it seems like we're just waiting until after the holidays. At that point, we could let whoever hasn't hosted the most recently go. Or just let poison_us go, since I think it's been a while since he's hosted, and he was next in line.



Win by luck, lose by skill.

Dec 17 2012, 5:12 pm Fire_Kame Post #40

wth is starcraft

Quote from rayNimagi
he was next in line.

WHAT A FANTASTIC REASON :wtfawesome:




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