Man up. Next we'll be discussing whether or not it should be legal for bees to sting people.
So if a bunch of random strangers came up to you and beat the shit out of you, the response that I should give is "man up"?
Walking by a bit of smoke and being the target of an assault aren't even
close to comparable on the "man up" scale. Get your man facts straight next time before you bring that weak shit up in here, fool
They both shorten my lifespan and leave me hurt afterwards, so I don't see why they aren't comparable. Arguably, the smoke shortens my lifespan more than getting mauled, so it would be higher up in the scale rather than lower.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you use, operate, or otherwise participate in any form of automobile operation? If you answer yes, then you can stop being ridiculous, and
man up.
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I find it funny that Vrael is just like "Deal with it suckaz! You're gonna die anyways!"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you use, operate, or otherwise participate in any form of automobile operation? If you answer yes, then you can stop being ridiculous, and man up.
At least automobiles have the advantage of bringing a person from point A to point B.
Cigarettes do not have such benefits. The only positive effect they have is relief from stress, and even then the stress is caused by withdrawl from smoking in the first place.
Also, I don't think anyone here spends large quantities of time walking behind cars.
"Man who runs behind car, get exhausted."
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Name one thing that
doesn't hurt someone, somehow. Boo hoo. I'm with Vrael here. Man up, seriously. That's like saying we should ban video games, because the pollution from the electricity used to run/produce them harms people.
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I just hate pussies. I'm not the toughest bastard in the world, sure, but I'm also not pussy enough to
I have to walk through entire quads worth of smokers at my uni to get from class to class. It fucking kills my lungs and throat for the next 15 minutes.
accept that that "fucking kills" his lungs. People who are anti-smoking typically are
selectively anti smoking, by which I mean
the arguments they create are mostly based on the fact that they just don't like smoking, and tend to have little to do with the
facts that smoking can cause lung cancer and whatnot. Since their arguments are based on the fact that they just don't like smoking,
my response is "Deal with it, suckaz!" because in this life you just can't always get what you want.
Me? I don't smoke. But I fully support the right of others to smoke. I just think they should pay extra for medicare and whatnot. I'm not a hardass, I agree with bans on smoking in public places like courthouses and hospitals, but I think bringing that ban to bars is crossing the line, unless the owner of the bar doesn't want smoking there. I hate when arguments like Aristocrat just made pop up, just dont walk within 10 feet of the smokers and you don't have to breathe the shit. If they're really congesting a critical path or something and it gets real bad (we have the asian chain gang smokers here too bud) then ask them to smoke somewhere else. "Hey fellas, would you mind moving over there with your smoking? I have to walk this way every day and the smoke is really getting annoying." If they don't move, or if they happen to assault you like you mentioned, then you can say "fuck them" and go talk to someone at the university.
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Yeah quit being a pussy man.
Don't like the radiation heap I keep next to your house? Quit being a pussy, jesus fucking christ. You were probably going to get cancer eventually. Not like humanity needs your pussy genes anyway.
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Oh, boo-hoo. Toxic chemicals are in the air. What a surprise. Because after all, all the tobacco in the world wouldn't produce even close to the amount of toxic waste as, say, a single volcano eruption. Let people do whatever they damn well please, as long as it doesn't directly hurt anyone else. And it doesn't hurt others, because the amount of toxins released is negligible compared to other things. Even cars. That's like saying people shouldn't be allowed to drive cars because it releases CO2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smokinghttp://www.lung.ca/protect-protegez/tobacco-tabagisme/second-secondaire/index_e.phpDidn't even know about
third-hand smokehttp://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCauses/TobaccoCancer/secondhand-smokehttp://www.google.ca/search?q=second+hand+smoke&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-ahttp://www.google.ca/search?q=second+hand+smoke&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-ahttp://www.google.ca/search?q=second+hand+smoke&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-ahttp://www.google.ca/search?q=second+hand+smoke&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-ahttp://www.google.ca/search?q=second+hand+smoke&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-aBack to sacrieur, a law requiring children to be immunized against any substance, nicotine or otherwise, is an infringement of the rights of the people and would require an amendment to the constitution. Simply because you believe smoking is bad is not sufficient justification to take away a right of the people. Furthermore, the government does not have the power to require this of us, as its power is limited to only those provisions provided to it by the constitution.
Their civil rights, which isn't to be confused with person rights.
My position has never been to stop the sale of cigarettes or get people to stop smoking; it has been to improve the human immunity to dangerous toxins. Under the assumption that free will is a person right, immunization would be the ethical thing to do. It removes any sort of external drug influence on an individual's decision to smoke or not.
You're ignoring the problem of making people immune without their consent.
I was saying the dangers of second-hand smoke are negligible to the dangers of, say, industrial or automotive pollution.
Wow, so just because one thing supercedes another in magnitude we should ignore the thing that's easier to solve! WONDERFUL.
Now, let's ignore ASSAULT since it's superceded by MURDER.
Now, let's ignore ASSAULT since it's superceded by MURDER.
Not the same thing.
"If a topic that clearly interest noone needs to be closed to underline the "we don't want this here" message, is up to debate."
-NudeRaider
Now, let's ignore ASSAULT since it's superceded by MURDER.
Not the same thing.
1) I never said they were.
2) I don't understand how you differentiate between the two in this context; please elaborate.
3) They can both be looked at as direct, intentional physical harm.
4) Just because problem X is less severe than problem Y doesn't mean problem X should be ignored.
Allow me to clarify
Now, let's ignore ASSAULT since it's superceded by MURDER.
Is not the same thing as
dangers of second-hand smoke are negligible to the dangers of, say, industrial or automotive pollution.
"If a topic that clearly interest noone needs to be closed to underline the "we don't want this here" message, is up to debate."
-NudeRaider
I'm having a difficult time coming up with another comparison, but I've already stated my main point.
I just don't understand the mindset of forcing others to stop something that's less dangerous than what you do every day...
I'M OUT CHEA!
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Danger isn't the only important thing in life.
Tobacco stinks, and should be considered a disturbance to the public. It should be banned on the same grounds that public nudity is. Nudity doesn't hurt anyone, but old people should never take off their clothes. Likewise people should not be allowed to smoke. It's irritating to my senses. What people do in private is up to them, but publicly, people should observe some standards of decency.
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I just don't understand the mindset of forcing others to stop something that's less dangerous than what you do every day...
I'M OUT CHEA!
In turn, I don't understand why that should even matter. There is a problem, so why not fucking solve it while we can instead of sitting around with our thumbs up our asses, just because there happens to be another problem that's bigger?
What's wrong starting off small? Small problems are easier to solve than larger ones, but larger ones of greater impact should also be solved to reduce their impact sooner. Really, there should be no bias toward solving either small or large problems sooner, because small problems will add up while large problems will add up even faster. Since people are divided as to which problems should be solved sooner, we can only do what we can when we can with what we have.
The best of what we can do should be done immediately. The sooner we solve this problem the better. We are already working on the problems of pollution, but the problem is very deep-seated and will take time to solve. During that time, instead of sitting around waiting, we can be solving more problems, like the use of tobacco products.
I just don't understand the mindset of forcing others to stop something that's less dangerous than what you do every day...
I'M OUT CHEA!
Yeah, I'm an army ranger. I kill someone walking down the street and everyone makes a big fuss about it. I had clear LoS and I only used my low-powered side arm.
Some people, sheesh
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EDIT: also, none of you better get that picture poison posted removed before I get a chance to get on my computer and save it.
What picture?NO
GOD DAMN YOU
I was gonna save it but I thought someone else would... someone has it right?
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