Haha that's not what I meant.
What I meant was, since you ignored what CATHOLICS BELIEVE, and just went with the bible, I felt that it would be equally fitting to ignore what Muslims actually believe and just go by their texts. I'll go ask some of the fervent Catholics at my private school what they think about this matter when summer is over.

Why is that? I said it was inappropriate and shouldn't have been answered with.

Discussion can continue without me at this point, I admitted it was a poor answer, I was wrong to use it, etc. Nothing else I can contribute.

That excuse doesn't work here.

I'm afraid we're going to have to beat you now.

It is difficult to discuss whether light was invented without first examining what is light.

Light to be put into simple terms, is a certain type of electromagnetic wave. It's like when you say that cars produce pollution, you've got trucks, pick-ups, motorcycles and a very large number of different types of vehicles. Light can be any type of electromagnetic wave, or a certain type of light. Car could be any type of vehicle that has a motor that drives a set of rotating wheels to move with or a small vehicle usually consisting of space for 5 passengers. It's not easy to define it unless you really study it.

Scientifically, light is any type of electromagnetic wave in existence. The light we use in everyday terms, including the bible, is a specific set of electromagnetic waves which range from about 380~780 nm in length and is visible to the human eye. All types of energy and mass emit electromagnetic waves, each with it's own properties, so electromagnetic wave have been around since at the very least the beginning of what we call the universe. If there would be no electromagnetic waves, there is no matter or energy and therefore no universe.

It's impossible to say whether light was invented or not. For something to invent light, there had to be electromagnetic waves to begin with, but where did these come from? In the book of Genesis, God created the heavens and the earth before he created light. This is physically impossible, but we cannot discard it as easily as this. The book of Genesis is believed to have been written from 1450 BC and 450 BC, so these people had no clue about how physics actually worked, they could have not written about electromagnetic waves or many other things. Even if God explained it to them, they would not have been able to understand. Instead of "let there be light", could it be rephrased to "and the sun got big enough and dense enough to start a fusion reaction which emitted light"?

The problem with comparing religion and science? Religions were created thousands of years ago and the people who wrote the books didn't have the knowledge to write about how everything works. Maybe the singularity in the Big Bang theory is God itself. We do not know for now.

In a manner of speaking, yes.

Lol its Kira

Yes! Light WAS invented by GOD!

You should have linked to the post in question.
"Was light invented" and "Does the majority believe it was invented" are entirely different questions.
You're getting a data sample from a very biased source.

As to the matter of how "invented" is defined, language is, unfortunately, subjective. Language, quite fundamentally, is only the agreement between people that A refers to B.

There are points I could make if I were feeling less lazy, but oh well.

I put no because light is just a wavelength and does not need people to create it. (as stars can create light as well as other wavelengths) So you cannot "invent" light.
Are Gamma rays invented?

Just a little note: The bible was not written to explain science, but to explain the relationship between God and His people. Someone does something bad, God punishes him, that person asks for pardon, God forgives and said person nows loves God more than before. (Put into simple words.)

I was actually going to make a sarcastic joke saying 'lol don't be silly man, god created light on the 3rd day', but now I'm just an asshole.

It could be argued that the point that "the bible doesn't explain science" is totally invalid, as one might say it was a new idea, not one constructed by some of the old old old old old people, as many famous scientists who said things against the church in the ye olde times were put to death or otherwise imprisoned or prosecuted. Err... poorly worded... but my point is that the "bible doesn't explain science" is a new idea to make the bible fit a new era more perfectly, rather than finding actually correct, if any, religion.

I couldn't link this as an embedded image, and google didn't turn up many other good results:
http://www.zazzle.co.nz/and_god_said_maxwells_equations_tshirt-235628270699537542

Also, I echo what Nude said: God created light, he didn't invent. Entirely different process, so the answer is definitely "no".

I was not expecting a debate on religion when I first clicked this thread. It's basically "Are you religious?", only reworded into something different.

1. Assume there is a deity who caused light to exist.
-Invention is a process by which a construct is created from existing materials, possessing an emergent property that defines it.
-For example, the light bulb was invented by putting together known materials into a configuration that allowed it to light with electricity.
-Light, however, was not assembled from existing materials. It was simply brought into being.
-Furthermore, light has no "component" so to speak. Light is light. (Disregard quantization of energy and constituent electric/magnetic waveforms for the purpose of this argument)
-Since light did not exist before it came into being, the process was that of creation, not invention.

Q.E.D.

2. Assume there is no God.

Since there is no god, nothing sentient could have participated in the process of invention. Therefore, light could not have been invented.



Q.E.D.

/thread

Tikels. are you just lookin for a religious argument?

Lol finally people start to realize creation != invention.

Btw. about the yes voters:
Vrael: Did it for fun of being the first one.
StarBlue: She's a girl.
Centreri: He's just trolling.

I am counted in the "christian" statistic. Light was not invented.

Anything God made is not an invention. Anything we make from God's original creations is an invention.

God set up the rules, and we have to follow them. If God could invent something, then the answer to "was X invented" is yes for all X, and should have been said so.

LOL SHE'S A GIRL.

What about the fourth? Milleniumarmy?

I thought I explained this already.

What is the point of the thread anyways? Arguing over semantics?

MA just did it for the lulz.