How about switching to Daddywhoo so we can end the day already.

We only need two more votes.

K I vote Daddywho

I vote Daddywhoo.

Edit:


Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 10 2013, 5:50 am by Roy.

Objection?

So let me get this straight. Azrael's calling me out as a mafia based on two facts: that I was communicating with Dem0n and that I didn't post or claim a role.
First of all, yeah I was communicating for Dem0n, except for hardly as much as he's implying. I had maybe 5/6 messages with him, most if not all on the first Night of the game. Yes he contacted me. Yes I replied. In case you haven't noticed, I'm not particularly active on SEN so I was pretty eager to have an alliance at least on the first day, particularly cause he claimed Doctor to me and I was considering starting my own hub, not unlike the one that you claim to have right now. Unfortunately, in case the sleuthing you claim to have done didn't let you realize this, I haven't exactly been online that much. Literally twice since the start of the game, this time being the third. So I'm not sure where your claim of me being "fairly active on the forum" comes from, since this is the only thread I've posted in.
I would love to be melodramatic and say go ahead and lynch me, but don't do that because I'm not a fucking mafia, and Azrael's "proof" is terrible conjecture with no backing whatsoever.
Moreover, I'd like to ask people who are actually in the hub with Azrael to say something, cause right now it looks like Azrael's just grasping at straws to get a lynch and legitimize himself.

Well he DID post a video of his role PM. And a mafia died at night, implying that Azrael is in contact with the vigilante and directed him appropriately.

EDIT: I vote Daddywho.

Daddywhoo confirmed Mafia for previous post.

Oops. Missed that. Either way, videos can be edited. But I will admit that that's decent evidence for him being a townie. I can provide a screenshot of my inbox if you guys want? I'm not sure if that's even an effective defense given the way the game is going.
What allowed him to direct the vigilante appropriately? I'm not denying that it's for the better that Dem0n died but what exactly was his proof? To my understanding this game has no clues in it so he somehow figured out a mafia based on...? Or he just took a shot in the dark for some reason. Neither one of these seem particularly likely to me so I honestly am curious.

mafia scum!

I assume he looked through the screenshots people sent him and compared them to each other

Demon's screenshot had some inconsistencies. I told him what the mistakes were when he died, and he said he'd realized his error shortly after sending the message.

I change my vote to Aristocrat

Don't vote Aristocrat, he's not a Mafia. I got his screenshot already, he's confirmed Town.

Faking a screenshot is not hard. Faking 30 screenshots a second is not much harder but a lot more work (or requires the use of more advanced tools). So yes it's possible to create a faked video of your role PM but only for those who have the required skills, knowledge and will. But it doesn't matter how easy it is, it's a skill that should just not be part of the game so it doesn't make sense to allow it in the first place. At best it just distracts from the actual game. At worst it breaks it.

I'm not suggesting changing the rules, I'm suggesting ending the game and starting one with better rules. This is not Mafia anymore. This is "hunt the screenshot inconsistencies".

I am with Nuderaider, I quit.
I lied about being the detective to mess with people's head. I wanted the detective to identify me as being innocent so I had a partner to co-ordinate with and I wanted to mess around with the mafia in hope that they would divert their attacks away from other people in hope they would just kill me, a simple townsperson.

Screenshots have been all this is about and with the use of video, it essentially became who could prove their screenshot was the most realistic. Hell, Roy created a screenshot FOR me, without me even asking him, just so I could get Azrael off my back. I could use that screenshot in combination with an actual screenshot to show you my fake 'Detective' PM and my real 'Townsperson' PM, but I will not, because I do not care enough any more.

This was the worst mafia game I have ever played, I didn't even read the damn night post, I just saw the only casualty was Dem0n and carried on. The fun of solving who the bad guys are and the mind melting of turning each other against one another is what made this game fun in the first place, so again, I quit.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 11 2013, 12:14 am by InsolubleFluff.

Wait, what? Here's a quote from the first page:


And from the shoutbox, before the game started (these weren't all on the same page so I'll just copy them, paste them in a top-down order, and color myself blue):


So don't say you did it for my sake


I agree completely on both accounts.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jan 11 2013, 12:44 am by Azrael.

What would have been better is for the role PM to just say "you are a townsman". That way even if you quote the pm they don't have anything to compare it to.

Plus it's not like you had to show AZ your role pms everyone. I didn't and I'm still alive.

It doesn't matter. It's still possible to find errors in the screenshots. That's the point. This is just "who can verify their screenshots the best".


You were one of the only people not to submit your role, and one of the only people to not contribute to the game. The only reason the Mafia were found is because almost everyone besides you complied and submitted their role PMs.

Why were there no deaths last night? Because the Doctors were able to organize through the hub.

Why did a Mafia die last night? Because the Vigilante was able to organize through the hub.

If you want to play as a lone wolf and refuse to cooperate with other Townies and sabotage them through your voluntary isolation, just because you don't feel any desire to win, then have at it. I'm not sure what the point of signing up to play is if you're not going to play.

Yeah, you're alive. Thank the rest of your team for that.

Everyone needs to just shut up and quit, get this damn thing over with.

In this case I wasn't talking about screenshots in particular. The game should be played based on trust and deception. A unique role pm for everyone also takes away from the game. When you didn't have screenshots to use you would always ask for a role pm.

What I meant was everyone shoud get the same PM "You are X". That way you whether believe him or you don't you can't proove he's lieing.

Yeah, that would be a good way for the host to make asking for the text from role PMs irrelevant.