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The Puzzling 2
Jul 9 2009, 3:14 am
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Jan 12 2010, 6:30 am payne Post #61

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There's no good players that still wants to beat the map ;o



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Jan 12 2010, 12:10 pm 8882a Post #62



REQUEST - COULD ANYONE UPLOAD A REPLAY WHERE HE BEATS THE MAP PLEASE

I tried beating the map few times but constantly failed, mostly due to the fact that my allies got bored/we were stuck. In last attempt they quit after we beat the scourge ping-pong round. Unfortunately I still need information on some rooms, because I have no clue what to do.
Please give me rather exact information because I spent a lot of time to try to solve them but failed.

1) How to solve the room in top left corner of the map with data discs and "two arrows". To be honest nothing happens when I enter it.
My only assumption is that I need to solve some other rooms perhaps, but I never to managed to get to them.
2)I cant solve the "hungry ursadon" room either (it's room A2 using Excel like notation). The creature goes left and right, after you click the buttons, but nothing happens. Is this just an empty room?
3) I dont know how to unblock the "electric fence" in the level with binary code/bunkers. I suppose that other rooms need to be unlocked first? Am I right?
4)How to solve the broken bulb room (with two cannons) - when we tried it teleported us to the previous room - and going through the whole bound level was hard as fuck with lag. Same applied to the baloon level - very hard to pass due to lag.
5) What is the idea behind the :go back room:? I noticed that if you unblock the room on the left of it, a white zergling called puzzling goes up - we managed to brute force the room after that. Before unlocking it, we always failed to do that room.

As you can notice I didnt manage to do many of the rooms. I would be grateful for a replay where someone solves the whole game; it would be easier to watch it, rather than try to beat the map again due to the extreme lag : (
If you dont have a replay I would be greateful for a solution, or at least some tips, because currently I dont know how to solve too many rooms to progress. The only path that I could potentially try is the one leading after the "scourge voleyball". I actuallya assume that is has to be done twice, but my teammates left :(

I have written a small guide to some of the rooms on teamliquid: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97250&currentpage=8#150
Please help.



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Jan 12 2010, 1:18 pm Leon-037 Post #63



Data discs and two arrows? Are you talking about the room above the "Hungry Ursadon"? I could give tips or solutions, I have a replay but it's like an hour long.. Anywho how the hell do you have extreme lag? Are you causing it or laggy partners? D:



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Jan 12 2010, 4:35 pm MEMEME670 Post #64



Hungry ursadon you have to go into the room above it and turn the crank. You do this by having everyone stand on one of the dark squares that would be at one of the three ends of the crank. After you turn it a bunch of times the water starts flowing towards the hungry ursasdon, and you have to go and make him eat the tasty fish until he fills up to beat the room.



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Jan 13 2010, 3:17 am OlimarandLouie Post #65



Khaos. I HATE YOU. AND I HATE THIS. :ranting: SOOOO DIIFFIIICUUULLLTLTLLTLTLLJASDL;KFJASDL;KF JLK;RJEFOIR JGKSDjaFA ;LKS :curse:

Except the the "Find the different Dragoon" Puzzle. That one was Ba-ba-ba-BRILLIANT!

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 13 2010, 11:27 pm by OlimarandLouie.



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Jan 14 2010, 1:51 am Xero Post #66



Does anyone know how to solve the room that shocks you when you try to get through the door? We got morse code from the terrain, which is 37.



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Jan 14 2010, 3:07 am OlimarandLouie Post #67



You got it backwards. It's 73.



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Jan 14 2010, 3:09 am fat_flying_pigs Post #68



SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

wait.. but there are 8 switches and the binary for 73 is 1001001



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Jan 14 2010, 3:40 am Xero Post #69



Oh, i think i get it now. But I'll save solving for that later, need to recharge my brain



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Jan 27 2010, 9:49 pm 8882a Post #70



The puzzling 2
Partial guide - updated again
Solutions for rooms B2, B3, B4, C1, D1, D2, E1, F1, D8, E8, F8 provided by zeppelin

THIS WALK THROUGH IS INCOMPLETE.
I still didnt solve some of the rooms; and the description of some rooms is provided by zeppelin.

SPOILER ALERT
The guide contains exact explanations how to complete the rooms!!!

I use Excel like format to name the rooms - columns are letters, rows are numbers.

A7 - first room
hint - use the buttons
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red can free other 2 lings by stepping on the two buttons


A8 - room with disc and 3 crystals

hint - you can move the disc
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you can move the disc by pushing it (if stand south of it, you can push it north etc)
push the button to the correct fields to activate 3 crystals
there is a time limit


B8 - room with 5 crystals and a white ling running around
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all 3 players must run like the ling on the light blue terrain
the 5 crystals will light up if you do it correctly


C8 - room with bunkers and crystals
currently I dont know how to go to the right, through the electric fence, I assume some other rooms need to be solved first
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the pattern on the cell is in Morse code
+ Show Spoiler +
the first row is 7
the second is 3
together 73

the number in binary is + Show Spoiler +
1001001

and that's how you need to activate the crystals below


C7 - room with ethereal barriers
those disappear if you solve other rooms; I think you should follow the path proposed by me, e.g. go left first

B7 - the room with missile turret / clock (it is over the room with the running ling)
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when you go near the turret, you can see a clock
when you click on firebats - you can see numbers
exit the room when the clock shows the numbers displayed on the firebats
the easiest way is to leave 2 lings at exit, 1 player tries to leave at proper time
repeat 3 times


B6 - room with 88 and another clock
mindfuck
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this is a big fat lie! go on the bottom left of the room for a hidden switch to open the doors


A6 room with 5 crystals
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if you press the big empty square a DT shows up
press the crystals (1 at a time) to let the DT pass to the switch
this requires some good timing


A5 charged battery/volatile explosive
hint - run around a carpet until you hear a sound
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when you run around the creep, you get "charged" (you should hear a sound)
when all 3 players are charged you need to close the circuit at the same time
1 player should go to the center, and 2 others to the "broken" electricity lines on left and right
this requires some irritating timing


A4 lonely ragnasaur
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the ragnasaur goes like a pingpong ball from red to blue
green player can stop it
blue and red need to "play ball" with the ragnasaur so that it stays on the "line" and walks to light up all the crystals
green can stop him (he changes the direction after being unstopped)
red and blue can do it alone with some good timing


A3 room with scourge (particle) and squares looking like a "target" sign
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run around the central square (starting from center of the floor) to make a the scourge chase you (but not touch you). When a kakaru explodes enter the next square and run around it.
You need to to go through all the rings - and then you can bring the scourge to open the exit


A2 hungry ursadon
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To complete the room, you need to go to room A1
When the "waterfall" is open in room A1, kerrigans and ghosts spawn. Your bear only likes to eat Kerrigans - feed him by making him go left/right, by pressing the buttons


A1 - "two arrows" (above hungry ursadon) with 7 blocks forming an arrow and 4 more blocks
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The 3 zerglings can move the central "wheel" or "triangle", if you stand at correct squares.
After spinning it for some time you will hear a sound, spin it even more (I think it blocks at a certain point) and quickly go to the room below to feed the hungry ursadon


B2 - riddle room
[spoiler]provided by zeppelin
this is a riddle
the answer to the first sentence is golf related - Hide Spoiler -
tees

the answer to second is drink related - Hide Spoiler -
teas

so you have to take a look at the - Hide Spoiler -
letters T
Each player should stand on a letter T in one of the sentences (e.g. blue gos to the letter "t" in word "to")


B3 - mirroed towers
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as provided by zeppelin

Two players go into one tower, the third goes into the other tower. This will take you to the gear rooms. Whatever gears are "stuck" in one tower, the player (or players) in the opposite tower must go to the corresponding gear. In other words only one player should go into the tower that has two stuck gears because two players need to go to the corresponding spots in the opposite tower. Nothing is mirrored other than the tower - in other words, if the top left gear is stuck in the right tower, a player in the left tower should go to the top left gear. A good communication strategy is essential!


B4 - vibrating crystal / multifrequency cannon
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I believe that the frequency can be seen in room B6; either 12:00 or 88 as far as I remember


B5 - power generator
[spoiler]I havent acessed this room yet, I assume that the power core needs to be activated

Now the players should go back to room C7.

C6 - room with 3 mineral formations ("door", "key") and two buttons
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If you click on the minerals you see that one are a barrier, one is a key and others have 4 and 7 minerals.
If you press the mineral formations, your ling "carries" the number displayed on it (4 or 7).
The top button adds the carried number of minerals to the minerals at door; the button below subtracts it.
Try to have the same amount of minerals at the key and door


D6 - command center / power station
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Simply bring minerals to the scvs from the room on the left (C6).
When all 4 scvs have minerals they will repair the buildings.
Then go to room E6 to lift the CC


E6 - this room is just a junction
Im not sure if room D6 doesnt need to be solved before you acess E6
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When you solve room D6 and acess room E6, a white ling can be seen running through E6. Not sure if this means anything


D5 - room with 4 buttons and exploding kakarus
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Count the number of explosions. Quick dual explosions count as one.
Look at your lings. Each one has a number of kills. Put your lings on buttons with the number of explosions equal to the number of kills on your ling.
After you solve this room go to room north, to room D4 to destroy the factory addons.


C5 - room with 4 buttons and exploding kakarus (2nd room of the same type; similar to D5)
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Solution is the same as in room D5.


C4/D4/C3/D3 - rooms where your lings get moved to the left side of the screen / "bound" level
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Your screen keeps moving. If your ling isnt visible, you die.
There are "dark" and "white" squares. Dark squares open some of the white squares.

One player needs to go north to free 2 players who go the south route. They free him in exchange. Then one player needs to go to the bottom near the crystal. Other players need to time pressing the buttons. At culmination point all 3 played need to press a button in the top right corner. After that you just run left.


C2 room with 2 cannons/flickering lightbulb
I havent solved it at the moment and zeppelin doesnt remember how did he do it exactly
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zeppelin says that you should try to outrun the cannons quickly, but Im not sure so far


C1 - room with shuttle, marine, grue (broodling)
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according to zeppelin players need to move the units using the shuttle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jealous_husbands_problem


B1 - room with marine, firebat, civilian, ghost, kerrigan, medic
Currently havent acessed this level - no solution, althouth have some ideas
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I THINK that the units need to be accessed according to their rank - havent tested


D1 - room with archons and dark archons
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zeppelin:
One switch controls horizontal cycling versus vertical. Cycle the archons so that their arrangement is the same as the picture that appears at the bottom of the minimap when this room is entered. If that does not work, try inverting the archons and dark archons (i.e. exact opposite pattern).



D2
Currently havent acessed this level - no solution; zeppelin doesnt remember

E1 - room with many units that looks like a chess set
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I assume that the players need to win the chess game.

see this topic, maybe it helps; I havent accessed it yet, so no solution from me
http://www.staredit.net/topic/7892/2/


F1 - room with generators
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I assume that the generator needs to be activated


Then players should go back to room C7.

D7 room with a dragoon shooting from behind a wall (1 north, 1 east from bunkers room)
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Put 3 lings at the button to make the dragoon shoot at different direction. Move the dragoon fire to the barrier; then go near the barrier.


E7- 4 dragoons, synchronous statues
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I think all the dragoons need to get 20 shields at the same time.
If you press the buttons, their shields get reseted, but not to 0, but to different amounts (e.g. 10 shields). You need to time the resetting so that all the 4 dragoons get 20 shields at same time. This is pretty hard


E6
This room is a junction, go north first

E5 "go back from whence you came"
Im not sure if room E6 doesnt need to be solved first.
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the idea is that you are in room E5 and have to go as if you were going to the start room A7, which is down down left left... and so on (look at minimap)


E4 room with many data discs, crystal and two switches (above the "go back room")
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You need to find a proper combination of switches so that 1 player can get to the crystal;
as far as I remember both players need to press the buttons at the beginning; then both go out and one press the top one - I could be wrong though, just try different combinations


Now go back to room E6 and go to F6 (not sure if you cant acess F5 through E5, probably not).

F6 - room with 7 dragoons (synchronous statues)
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If you take a look at the dragoons, there is this spinning thing under each of them. On one of them it spins in other way. Press it few times


F5 room with "baloon" exploding overlord
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One player always has to stand under the overlord - otherwise it dies. If you stand on the white path for too long you die. Coordinate who will stand over the baloon to make it pass through the whole level. I think the easiest is if your lings exit/enter the path


F4 room with 10 switches / scourge / "particle"
Im not sure if this solution is correct
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you need to play ping pong with the scourge; two players should stand on the right to initiate the scourge properly; this is damn hard


F3
Currently I dont know how to solve it
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I THINK that you need to get the scourge from room E4 again


F2
Currently I dont know how to solve it - I didnt acess it

E2
Currently I dont know how to solve it - I didnt acess it

E3
Currently I dont know how to solve it - I didnt acess it
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I suppose this is another generator room


I suppose that if you followed the route above, all 3 generators were acessed. Thus the electric fence in room C8 (the one with bunkers) should be open.

D8
Currently I dont know how to solve it - I didnt acess it
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zeppelin:
he hint for this room is "+". Stepping on beacon 5 gives a "unit unplaceable" error with two numbers. Add these numbers and step on the beacons that represents the sum.


E8
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zeppelin:
The hint for this room is something like "o --->". The arrow points to the menu button. Open the menu and press 'o'. The mission objectives will open. In this room, the mission objectives have been changed to be the answer to this puzzle (this is the coolest puzzle in the game imo).


F8
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zeppelin:
The hint for this room is "8". You probably noticed already in previous rooms that the beacon accepts an entry by killing a zealot on itself. The zealot that does this on beacon 8 is selectable for a split second. Its name is the answer to the puzzle.


F7
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Final room, I suppose. Havent acessed it yet


On the minimap there are also 3 more rooms. 2 are for the mirrowed tower; as for other room - I dont know.
There is also an island - supposedly for end credits.



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Jan 27 2010, 11:11 pm OlimarandLouie Post #71



Collapse box please :-( I don't want to cheat



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Jan 28 2010, 12:32 am hdogg86 Post #72



his guide is almost solid, some of the answers are wrong, but hes not as far as me. i dont know how to collapse boxes so i wont post the spoilers. how he got to see the other rooms without beating the music room puzzles me, and i havent been able to get any solid players to make it back to music room since i last made it, which was my last post in this thread.



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Jan 28 2010, 9:20 pm Vi3t-X Post #73





Ending Spoiler


First time I played it too. :P

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Jan 28 2010, 10:37 pm OlimarandLouie Post #74



Quote from Vi3t-X


Ending Spoiler


First time I played it too. :P
:ranting:



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Jan 28 2010, 11:58 pm payne Post #75

:payne:

Wait, me, TZ and Dev aren't mentioned in testers? :O
D:<
Time for me to finish this >:O



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Feb 9 2010, 1:25 am Wing Zero Post #76

Magic box god; Suck it Corbo

This is hard as hell!!! I wouldn't have passed either of the clock rooms if I didn't have a guy that played before in the game with us, I have no idea how people figured out the first clock room in the first place
On a side note good job!! I have been driven crazy by this map and its puzzles of *facepalm*




Dec 3 2010, 6:07 pm Saigyouji Post #77



I'm stuck at the room after the Red light green light Photon cannons thing. There's 2 horizontal switches, a creep and tile for both, and 1 vertical. It keeps exploding and stuff, but I don't know how to get past it. Help~



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Dec 4 2010, 4:09 am Roy Post #78

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

Quote from Saigyouji
I'm stuck at the room after the Red light green light Photon cannons thing. There's 2 horizontal switches, a creep and tile for both, and 1 vertical. It keeps exploding and stuff, but I don't know how to get past it. Help~
Is it too much to ask for a screenshot? I haven't played the map in a while, and I'm not sure to which room you are referring.




Dec 4 2010, 5:45 am Saigyouji Post #79



Okay I attached a screenshot to this post. Thanks in advance. (:

EDIT: Oh, we're also stuck on the Accelerator room. How do we do that room?

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Dec 4 2010, 7:27 am payne Post #80

:payne:

Quote from Saigyouji
Okay I attached a screenshot to this post. Thanks in advance. (:

EDIT: Oh, we're also stuck on the Accelerator room. How do we do that room?
1) Good initiative of having PM'd me: I'm not looking at SC1 threads anymore. ;)
2) I'm not sure I've even reached that room in the screenshots, or at least, it doesn't ring any bell and I can't remember the solution.
3) The Accelerator room is the one with an interceptor and some circular shape and a flag, or something like that, right?



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