"The world record holder"

As in the person who went the longest without sleep, ever. He had no advise effects after his sleep.

Your point?How long did he stay awake?

Please post a link to the article of this case or your words are worthless.

I'm really glad I asked. I was about to start experimenting.

After thinking about it a little, probably the reason the guy had no trouble after 33 years of no sleep is because:
A. He got TONS and TONS of exercise. I mean jeezus.
B. I'd guess he ate extremely healthy. As a loose macrobiotic person, I believe that the healthiest diet one can eat is one of peasants (I'm guessing he ate this way, judging by his description and that I can think of no other conclusion (although I might be considered a biased macrobiotic person)).

I may experiment with health and sleep at some point (CAREFULLY). If it results well, I'll revive this topic.

Could someone link me to a site explaining the whole 2 hours of REM thing?

One of my favorite athletes Dean Karnasas sleeps 4 hours each night. Basically he explained that he didnt want to sleep as much as everyone else so he could enjoy his life much more and he says he feels very rejuvinated after only 4 hours of sleep.

So basically he'll get up at 6 a.m. and go run like 10 miles, then he'll shower, eat go to work. When he gets off work at 6 p.m. he will help his kids with whatever they're doing, hw and such, then after they go to bed, he'll go out for another run only he'll be out from 9-2 running. Then he'll get home, and go to bed and do it again the next day.

He says that as far as any doctor has shown, he has extremely healthy vitals and physicque. Some may say that he is a little loopy cause he runs like 40 miles a day, but other than that, the 4 hours of sleep he says is all he needs to have enegry for the day.

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One of my favorite athletes Dean Karnasas sleeps 4 hours each night. Basically he explained that he didnt want to sleep as much as everyone else so he could enjoy his life much more and he says he feels very rejuvinated after only 4 hours of sleep.

So basically he'll get up at 6 a.m. and go run like 10 miles, then he'll shower, eat go to work. When he gets off work at 6 p.m. he will help his kids with whatever they're doing, hw and such, then after they go to bed, he'll go out for another run only he'll be out from 9-2 running. Then he'll get home, and go to bed and do it again the next day.

He says that as far as any doctor has shown, he has extremely healthy vitals and physicque. Some may say that he is a little loopy cause he runs like 40 miles a day, but other than that, the 4 hours of sleep he says is all he needs to have enegry for the day.

Interesting. So MAYBE physical exercise lessens the amount you have to sleep each day. Which basically means that the lost sleep will net you no extra time (unless you use the extra time to do something physical, like build yourself a well or something). MAYBE this is because you don't really have to have any mental thought while exercising; in that respect it is just like sleeping.

So MAYBE the only reason you need to sleep is to give your mind a rest. Einstein always said he needed his 10 hours without exception. And the 33 year not sleeping guy said that he'd only learned his alphabet, so my guess is that he didn't really need to think hardly at all..

About my above post, I think I changed my mind about trying to experiment with food; my brother eats quite good and he says that he can't do anything without his full 9 hours of sleep every night (he's getting his Ph.D in math - VERY mentally intense).

But I am still interested in that 2 hours of REM thing every day.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Feb 23 2009, 5:58 am by Mallard Fillmore.

Here's the deal.
When you don't sleep your body starts producing toxins that it's not supposed to be producing. Those toxins have to get out of your body somehow which is why I adviced to drink lots of water, because I know this. Water helps you "delude" this toxin or "dissolve" it if you wish but it doesn't get rid of it. Eventually some of the toxin that was carried on with the water will.. well, go out as pee. But you'll still be producing this toxin.
Working out/excercising works to perfection only because when you work out you sweat and sweating is a cooling/defence mechanism. Defence because it's a method of your body to get rid of toxins you don't need.

At any care we're talking about a professional athelete here. He's probably already used to this lifestyle. Besides the fact that athletes have their heart beatings damn controlled. They could run miles and miles and their hearts would beat like normally unlike, for example, if you started running which would only make you tired and your heart beating so fast it feels like exploding. Which brings back something that Phobos said. Your heart needs a rest, his doesn't because he already has his heart beatings controlled to beat slow. Some athletes are controlled while they're sleep because their hearts simply "stops beating" but it is only beating super slow.

That man is my uncle.

If everyone lived like this, we'd all be far more active, less obese, and more productive. This is probably why people in ancient times were so damn productive.

The most I been without sleep is 3-4 days. It was during finals week and I drank tons of monster and stayed up studying. (there were moments where i just passed out for like 15 mins though)