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my problem is when i use eud in game its drop the ppl, i maked the map whit eud the trigger is when u press 1 its going to make 1 arbiter under a ghost,in single player works fine,in multi only playing solo works fine but i was playing whit my friends and when he pressed 1 ,he disconected from the game, a solution for not to drop?
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If it's EUD actions, then every player playing that map needs to run an EUD enabler so that you will not desync.
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Eud enabler, a trigger for other players , or a program thats enable euds?
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Eud enabler, a trigger for other players , or a program thats enable euds?
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but i played a game whitout eud enabler and its doesnt disconected and was playing whit a friend
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but i played a game whitout eud enabler and its doesnt disconected and was playing whit a friend
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You've connected a non-shared condition to a shared action, resulting in a desynch.
Note that selection groups are shared, so if you want a game where a unit is created when you press "1", you can give each player a control unit that he hotkeys to 1, detect his selection of that unit via EUD conditions, and then deselect it by giving it to a different player and back again.
Note that selection groups are shared, so if you want a game where a unit is created when you press "1", you can give each player a control unit that he hotkeys to 1, detect his selection of that unit via EUD conditions, and then deselect it by giving it to a different player and back again.
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I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.
What are you detecting with that EUD?
The button "1"?
Buttons aren't shared between players. But you won't be desynced immediatly or under every circumstance.
There are some actions that can be done safely locally without desyncing the game.
The display text message is an action that can be done safely.
Creating units will cause a desync EXCEPT everyone presses the key during the trigger check (-> actions run on every computer).
What you need for detecting that stuff:
Make the player hotkey some units and tell them to select the units to activate something.
Unit selection detection will work because that is shared memory data.
oh and damned, foxwolf1 was faster ;D
The button "1"?
Buttons aren't shared between players. But you won't be desynced immediatly or under every circumstance.
There are some actions that can be done safely locally without desyncing the game.
The display text message is an action that can be done safely.
Creating units will cause a desync EXCEPT everyone presses the key during the trigger check (-> actions run on every computer).
What you need for detecting that stuff:
Make the player hotkey some units and tell them to select the units to activate something.
Unit selection detection will work because that is shared memory data.
oh and damned, foxwolf1 was faster ;D
Ahli, so if everyone in the game were to press 1 at the same time, the game could do a global action and wouldn't desync anyone?
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correct, but that's highly unlikely.
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If you're not using hypertriggers you have a 1.5s window for everyone to press the same time, which is feasible, but with hypers everyone would only have 83ms to press it which is too short to be of any practical use.
So you could use switch hypers and disable them for the duration of the key press detection.
So you could use switch hypers and disable them for the duration of the key press detection.
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NudeRaiderIf you're not using hypertriggers you have a 1.5s window for everyone to press the same time, which is feasible, but with hypers everyone would only have 83ms to press it which is too short to be of any practical use.
So you could use switch hypers and disable them for the duration of the key press detection
So you could use switch hypers and disable them for the duration of the key press detection
if i make a trigger thats need p1,p2,p3,etc are pressing 1 we will desnyc?
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if i make a trigger thats need p1,p2,p3,etc are pressing 1 we will desnyc?
This has already been technically been answered in xboi's/rockz's question and answer a few posts above.
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NudeRaiderIf you're not using hypertriggers you have a 1.5s window for everyone to press the same time, which is feasible, but with hypers everyone would only have 83ms to press it which is too short to be of any practical use.
So you could use switch hypers and disable them for the duration of the key press detection
So you could use switch hypers and disable them for the duration of the key press detection
if i make a trigger thats need p1,p2,p3,etc are pressing 1 we will desnyc?
Key press detection is not shared. That means only the player pressing the key has the condition true, so only this player is running the trigger.
Now if you just display text in the trigger this is no problem as display text is a local action, that doesn't affect game play so no desynch will happen.
But you want to run global actions (aka something that does affect the game) but you want to base this off a local variable (key press. No player knows what keys you press). So you have to make sure that everyone presses the key IN THE SAME TRIGGER LOOP or players will desynch.
So my suggestion is: You don't use hypers (or disable them temporarily), so trigger loops are about 1.5 seconds apart and do the following:
1. loop: Display text: "Everyone press and hold '1' NOW" -- (0.00s)
2. loop: Run EUD trigger based on pressing '1' -> everyone who isn't pressing '1' will be dropped -- (1.50s)
still 2. loop: Display text: "Everyone release '1' NOW"
3. loop: If someone is still pressing '1' he will desynch. -- (3.00s)
(not perfectly accurate, but you should get the idea)
The problem with this is that every player has to start pressing somwhere inbetween 0.00s - 1.50s and releasing somewhere between 1.50s - 3.00s. Failure to comply -> you drop from the game.
Also if you "accidently" happen to press '1' at any time you'll drop. It's not very user friendly, but it's possible when you're not using hyper triggers.
However hyper triggers are usually very much desired, so I gave you the option to use switch hypers (scroll down a bit). Those have the property that you can disable them at any time and restart them later.
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RoyYes. You will desync. Unless your game is based on "Do this action at this exact time to not drop from the game," there is no practical use for this. The only way you would not desync is if everyone pressed the button at nearly the exact same time, which is exponentially unlikely for each additional player.
This has already been technically been answered in xboi's/rockz's question and answer a few posts above.
This has already been technically been answered in xboi's/rockz's question and answer a few posts above.
ROFL Good idea xD
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NudeRaiderI don't understand your question since I answered it in the part you quoted so I'll elaborate:
Key press detection is not shared. That means only the player pressing the key has the condition true, so only this player is running the trigger.
Now if you just display text in the trigger this is no problem as display text is a local action, that doesn't affect game play so no desynch will happen.
But you want to run global actions (aka something that does affect the game) but you want to base this off a local variable (key press. No player knows what keys you press). So you have to make sure that everyone presses the key IN THE SAME TRIGGER LOOP or players will desynch.
So my suggestion is: You don't use hypers (or disable them temporarily), so trigger loops are about 1.5 seconds apart and do the following:
1. loop: Display text: "Everyone press and hold '1' NOW" -- (0.00s)
2. loop: Run EUD trigger based on pressing '1' -> everyone who isn't pressing '1' will be dropped -- (1.50s)
still 2. loop: Display text: "Everyone release '1' NOW"
3. loop: If someone is still pressing '1' he will desynch. -- (3.00s)
(not perfectly accurate, but you should get the idea)
The problem with this is that every player has to start pressing somwhere inbetween 0.00s - 1.50s and releasing somewhere between 1.50s - 3.00s. Failure to comply -> you drop from the game.
Also if you "accidently" happen to press '1' at any time you'll drop. It's not very user friendly, but it's possible when you're not using hyper triggers.
However hyper triggers are usually very much desired, so I gave you the option to use switch hypers (scroll down a bit). Those have the property that you can disable them at any time and restart them later.
Key press detection is not shared. That means only the player pressing the key has the condition true, so only this player is running the trigger.
Now if you just display text in the trigger this is no problem as display text is a local action, that doesn't affect game play so no desynch will happen.
But you want to run global actions (aka something that does affect the game) but you want to base this off a local variable (key press. No player knows what keys you press). So you have to make sure that everyone presses the key IN THE SAME TRIGGER LOOP or players will desynch.
So my suggestion is: You don't use hypers (or disable them temporarily), so trigger loops are about 1.5 seconds apart and do the following:
1. loop: Display text: "Everyone press and hold '1' NOW" -- (0.00s)
2. loop: Run EUD trigger based on pressing '1' -> everyone who isn't pressing '1' will be dropped -- (1.50s)
still 2. loop: Display text: "Everyone release '1' NOW"
3. loop: If someone is still pressing '1' he will desynch. -- (3.00s)
(not perfectly accurate, but you should get the idea)
The problem with this is that every player has to start pressing somwhere inbetween 0.00s - 1.50s and releasing somewhere between 1.50s - 3.00s. Failure to comply -> you drop from the game.
Also if you "accidently" happen to press '1' at any time you'll drop. It's not very user friendly, but it's possible when you're not using hyper triggers.
However hyper triggers are usually very much desired, so I gave you the option to use switch hypers (scroll down a bit). Those have the property that you can disable them at any time and restart them later.
Uh so i have to do something like this?
Condition:
(the condition for press the 1)
Actions:
(now hold 1)
Create 1 arbiter on X location
KIll 1 arbiter at Anywhere
(release 1)
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I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.
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Uh so i have to do something like this?
Condition:
(the condition for press the 1)
Actions:
(now hold 1)
Create 1 arbiter on X location
KIll 1 arbiter at Anywhere
(release 1)
Condition:
(the condition for press the 1)
Actions:
(now hold 1)
Create 1 arbiter on X location
KIll 1 arbiter at Anywhere
(release 1)
C: system is activated (for example: switch01 is set)
A: raise a Death Count (DC) by 1
trigger 2:
C: if DC = 1
A: display "hold down 1"
trigger 3:
C:
if DC = 2
if memory condition for key
A:
display "release 1"
Create 1 arbiter on X location
Kill 1 arbiter at Anywhere
Don't forget to change the DC afterwards. It isn't allowed to stay =2 forever.
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