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Sep 9 2007, 10:21 pm A_of-s_t Post #141

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Quote from CaptainWill
The BBC is biased - just not as obviously as most media corporations. In the UK they are in a lot of trouble at the moment for leaning too far to the left.
At least the BBC tries (tried) to be unbaised by presenting both sides of the arguement. It is, after all, hard to be unbaised when it is a human being writting out the news. For all its worth, it is the least baised news media. Unlike FOX, or the Colbert Report :P .



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Sep 10 2007, 12:54 am Doodan Post #142



GunSolar, stop posting so many times in a row. I've quoted all the consecutive posts you've made, because I'm about to delete them. From now on, push "quote" on all the posts you wish to quote before you hit the reply button.

Whoa, I broke the quotes. :blush:

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Quote from CaptainWill
The BBC is biased - just not as obviously as most media corporations. In the UK they are in a lot of trouble at the moment for leaning too far to the left.
At least the BBC tries (tried) to be unbaised by presenting both sides of the arguement. It is, after all, hard to be unbaised when it is a human being writting out the news. For all its worth, it is the least baised news media. Unlike FOX, or the Colbert Report :P .

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from SteamBoy
President Bush:
You know what I hate ? when people said Bush is a bad person for not responding that quick at 911.

1.) We got fire station's for a reason.
2.) We got other stuff for a reason.

wtf Bush gonna do, go there and tell everyone what to do when they are already doing it? can someone please explain that to me.

and btw if you said he's holding the book upside down your wrong someone edited that.

He can allocate resources such as military combat units and other forms of support that are under his direct command. But I disagree with these "people" you speak of. He responded quickly enough. It was the confusion that got us. He was aware at 10 in the morning, I was just watching 9/11 Conspiracies on the History Channel.

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Quote from AntiSleep
This is what bush has done: He has divided the people of this country, taken a shit in Iraq at the expense of Afghanistan, and taken a chainsaw to the bill of rights.

This country has always been divided. Its called political parties. We are rectifying the problem of a manifest terrorism in both Afghanistan and Iraq. What you call failure, I believe is a stage for progress. Taken a chainsaw to the Bill of Rights? Just what the hell are you talking about?

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Quote from AntiSleep
How the hell do you think he got elected to his second term? It sure as hell wasn't by convincing the moderates, it was pandering to his base of fundamentalist neo-con Christians.

Oh now you're just rambling on.

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Quote from AntiSleep
The one thing you need to impeach a president is the cooperation of the media.

How do you mean?

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Quote from A_of-s_t
I've been reading this long, nice, yet stupid, yet intellegent, arguement for about an hour; and, I must say, this is the worst/best arguement I've ever read. People are agreeing with each other without saying anything else. Everytime someone rebuttles someone, they ask for "proof". Then, there's the incoherrent spam.

So, has Bush been a good or bad President? I could not say for sure. Why? Becuase his term has come at a horrible time; a time of terrorism, and incoherency.

Should we have invaded Iraq? Maybe its the brainwashing, or the 1984-esque world some of you would love, but I think it was the best thing to do. If a country can produce WMDs, then we should keep an eye on them; just as we should currently do with North Korea.

"So are you pro Bush, or against him?"
Does it really matter?
"Yes."
Then I would say I support him.

I don't really see what you're saying above but I'll ignore it for now.

I agree we should keep an eye on them. That's the job of the Central Intelligence Agency. However we cannot allow countries such as Iran to develope nuclear weapons, missile system or not.

Quote from GuN_Solar90
That is the problem, at the time we invaded Iraq, the UN was allowed to have weapon inspectors there, and there was no evidence of WMD, or support of al-quaida. North Korea had a confirmed nuclear program, but no oil. I wonder if the reason we went to iraq was the oil, or just because it was already decided to start a war, and Iraq was chosen because it was an easy sell to the media.

You seem to like talking about the media a lot but you don't elaborate. We did not go to Iraq for oil. Thats bullshit. I keep hearing teenagers from the U.K., Europe, wherever online, Xbox Live, forums, and battle.net talking about how the U.S. is secretly stealing oil. Let me tell you how ridiculous those statements are. We have oil here and we can buy enough oil to support ourselves, we don't need to invade countries for it. The problem is that gas prices are high due to an inefficient number of refineries working.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
The problem is that I do not think the administration is THAT incompetent(They do put on a good show, Katrina for instance), it is possible this is all a ruse to divert attention from something else. I wonder what the significance of karl rove leaving the administration is.

Divert attention from what? A conspiracy? Like the 9/11 Conspiricies which I coincidentally am watching. I don't think so. Again, a ridiculous question based on radical Americans unwilling to accept that the World is making progress, even if people have to die for it.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
The one thing you need to impeach a president is the cooperation of the media.

Liberal democrats control most of the media, what do you think they are trying to do?You are kidding, right? Or do you actually believe fox news is fair and balanced?
I thought FOX news was a conservative network? I don't believe any news network is fair and balanced, they're just focusing on the bad parts in Iraq and making more of a deal of it than it really is.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
They thing I hate about bush, is that he's letting illegal's into this country.

now illegal's are a whollllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee different issue.

and also if you seen bush before he was president he spoke right, and knew what he was talking about, maybe all this power got to his head?

but yha he did kill Saddam, he was a evil Leader. and I respect that from Bush! but i still do not like illegals.

Oh God haha! Pleassse don't bring Illegals into this issue we're having enough trouble agreeing on the war issue! Lol. But I agree I think illegals should be deported.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
I love how my points go unanswered, after I spent all that time providing links to my sources.

I think I disagreed with you but as I said before my post was lost and I was prettttty pissed. If you really want I'll post it again.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
The problem is that I do not think the administration is THAT incompetent(They do put on a good show, Katrina for instance), it is possible this is all a ruse to divert attention from something else. I wonder what the significance of karl rove leaving the administration is.

Karl Rove left as part of a quickening stream of officials jumping ship to avoid the sinking Bush administration. As Iraq continues to worsen and Bush turns to the things the Democrats have been suggesting for years on end (such as a 'soft' partition of Iraq and an end to the 'surge'), a lot of the professional politicians around him are trying to run before being Republican becomes taboo.

No, the Bush administration is not incompetent, and in some ways that is what scares me. Bush did indeed truly believe that Saddam was evil and needed to be hunted down (Saddam did go after his father, after all). But now that it is clear that invading Iraq was the wrong choice (most people agree about this - even a majority of Republican candidates, but not whether we should withdraw now is not agreed upon), Bush cannot bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

Quote from Falkoner
The one thing you need to impeach a president is the cooperation of the media.

Liberal democrats control most of the media, what do you think they are trying to do?
Honestly, no. If you think that liberals have complete control of the media, look at the often-used Fox News. Look at Robert Murdoch. It's a bit of a stretch to call him a liberal Democrat.

Quote from SteamBoy
They thing I hate about bush, is that he's letting illegal's into this country.

now illegal's are a whollllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee different issue.

and also if you seen bush before he was president he spoke right, and knew what he was talking about, maybe all this power got to his head?

but yha he did kill Saddam, he was a evil Leader. and I respect that from Bush! but i still do not like illegals.

That's got to be the first time I've seen someone bash Bush for not being Republican enough. :lol:

Well Mr. Battlekruser I am impressed with your input. I don't think being Republican will become taboo ever though or I'm leaving this country forever. I don't think the war was a mistake. 3,500 casualties out of 175,000 is not really above calculated. I think we should continue our efforts. Bush made no mistake.


Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 10 2007, 12:56 am by Doodan. Reason: Doh



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Sep 10 2007, 1:00 am GuN_Solar90 Post #143



Quote from A_of-s_t
Quote from SteamBoy
They thing I hate about bush, is that he's letting illegal's into this country.

now illegal's are a whollllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee different issue.

and also if you seen bush before he was president he spoke right, and knew what he was talking about, maybe all this power got to his head?

but yha he did kill Saddam, he was a evil Leader. and I respect that from Bush! but i still do not like illegals.
Im sure poeple ignore these types of posts; I donnot. You sir, are a blubbering idiot.

I wish the news was more like the BBC -- unbiased. That's all I really have to say.

Didn't the US create the United Nations? How can the creator get kicked out of his own orginization (I refer to the US as a he).

Actually the U.S. is a we or them or she. :)



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Sep 10 2007, 1:01 am Doodan Post #144



I just said to stop posting a bunch of times in a row. I'm deleting the post in which you flamed. Stop now.



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Sep 10 2007, 1:04 am GuN_Solar90 Post #145



Quote from Doodan
GunSolar, stop posting so many times in a row. I've quoted all the consecutive posts you've made, because I'm about to delete them. From now on, push "quote" on all the posts you wish to quote before you hit the reply button.

Whoa, I broke the quotes. :blush:

Quote from A_of-s_t
The BBC is biased - just not as obviously as most media corporations. In the UK they are in a lot of trouble at the moment for leaning too far to the left.
At least the BBC tries (tried) to be unbaised by presenting both sides of the arguement. It is, after all, hard to be unbaised when it is a human being writting out the news. For all its worth, it is the least baised news media. Unlike FOX, or the Colbert Report :P .

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from SteamBoy
President Bush:
You know what I hate ? when people said Bush is a bad person for not responding that quick at 911.

1.) We got fire station's for a reason.
2.) We got other stuff for a reason.

wtf Bush gonna do, go there and tell everyone what to do when they are already doing it? can someone please explain that to me.

and btw if you said he's holding the book upside down your wrong someone edited that.

He can allocate resources such as military combat units and other forms of support that are under his direct command. But I disagree with these "people" you speak of. He responded quickly enough. It was the confusion that got us. He was aware at 10 in the morning, I was just watching 9/11 Conspiracies on the History Channel.

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from AntiSleep
This is what bush has done: He has divided the people of this country, taken a shit in Iraq at the expense of Afghanistan, and taken a chainsaw to the bill of rights.

This country has always been divided. Its called political parties. We are rectifying the problem of a manifest terrorism in both Afghanistan and Iraq. What you call failure, I believe is a stage for progress. Taken a chainsaw to the Bill of Rights? Just what the hell are you talking about?

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from AntiSleep
How the hell do you think he got elected to his second term? It sure as hell wasn't by convincing the moderates, it was pandering to his base of fundamentalist neo-con Christians.

Oh now you're just rambling on.

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from AntiSleep
The one thing you need to impeach a president is the cooperation of the media.

How do you mean?

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from A_of-s_t
I've been reading this long, nice, yet stupid, yet intellegent, arguement for about an hour; and, I must say, this is the worst/best arguement I've ever read. People are agreeing with each other without saying anything else. Everytime someone rebuttles someone, they ask for "proof". Then, there's the incoherrent spam.

So, has Bush been a good or bad President? I could not say for sure. Why? Becuase his term has come at a horrible time; a time of terrorism, and incoherency.

Should we have invaded Iraq? Maybe its the brainwashing, or the 1984-esque world some of you would love, but I think it was the best thing to do. If a country can produce WMDs, then we should keep an eye on them; just as we should currently do with North Korea.

"So are you pro Bush, or against him?"
Does it really matter?
"Yes."
Then I would say I support him.

I don't really see what you're saying above but I'll ignore it for now.

I agree we should keep an eye on them. That's the job of the Central Intelligence Agency. However we cannot allow countries such as Iran to develope nuclear weapons, missile system or not.

Quote from GuN_Solar90
That is the problem, at the time we invaded Iraq, the UN was allowed to have weapon inspectors there, and there was no evidence of WMD, or support of al-quaida. North Korea had a confirmed nuclear program, but no oil. I wonder if the reason we went to iraq was the oil, or just because it was already decided to start a war, and Iraq was chosen because it was an easy sell to the media.

You seem to like talking about the media a lot but you don't elaborate. We did not go to Iraq for oil. Thats bullshit. I keep hearing teenagers from the U.K., Europe, wherever online, Xbox Live, forums, and battle.net talking about how the U.S. is secretly stealing oil. Let me tell you how ridiculous those statements are. We have oil here and we can buy enough oil to support ourselves, we don't need to invade countries for it. The problem is that gas prices are high due to an inefficient number of refineries working.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
The problem is that I do not think the administration is THAT incompetent(They do put on a good show, Katrina for instance), it is possible this is all a ruse to divert attention from something else. I wonder what the significance of karl rove leaving the administration is.

Divert attention from what? A conspiracy? Like the 9/11 Conspiricies which I coincidentally am watching. I don't think so. Again, a ridiculous question based on radical Americans unwilling to accept that the World is making progress, even if people have to die for it.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
The one thing you need to impeach a president is the cooperation of the media.

Liberal democrats control most of the media, what do you think they are trying to do?You are kidding, right? Or do you actually believe fox news is fair and balanced?
I thought FOX news was a conservative network? I don't believe any news network is fair and balanced, they're just focusing on the bad parts in Iraq and making more of a deal of it than it really is.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
They thing I hate about bush, is that he's letting illegal's into this country.

now illegal's are a whollllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee different issue.

and also if you seen bush before he was president he spoke right, and knew what he was talking about, maybe all this power got to his head?

but yha he did kill Saddam, he was a evil Leader. and I respect that from Bush! but i still do not like illegals.

Oh God haha! Pleassse don't bring Illegals into this issue we're having enough trouble agreeing on the war issue! Lol. But I agree I think illegals should be deported.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
I love how my points go unanswered, after I spent all that time providing links to my sources.

I think I disagreed with you but as I said before my post was lost and I was prettttty pissed. If you really want I'll post it again.
Quote from GuN_Solar90
The problem is that I do not think the administration is THAT incompetent(They do put on a good show, Katrina for instance), it is possible this is all a ruse to divert attention from something else. I wonder what the significance of karl rove leaving the administration is.

Karl Rove left as part of a quickening stream of officials jumping ship to avoid the sinking Bush administration. As Iraq continues to worsen and Bush turns to the things the Democrats have been suggesting for years on end (such as a 'soft' partition of Iraq and an end to the 'surge'), a lot of the professional politicians around him are trying to run before being Republican becomes taboo.

No, the Bush administration is not incompetent, and in some ways that is what scares me. Bush did indeed truly believe that Saddam was evil and needed to be hunted down (Saddam did go after his father, after all). But now that it is clear that invading Iraq was the wrong choice (most people agree about this - even a majority of Republican candidates, but not whether we should withdraw now is not agreed upon), Bush cannot bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

Quote from Falkoner
The one thing you need to impeach a president is the cooperation of the media.

Liberal democrats control most of the media, what do you think they are trying to do?
Honestly, no. If you think that liberals have complete control of the media, look at the often-used Fox News. Look at Robert Murdoch. It's a bit of a stretch to call him a liberal Democrat.

Quote from SteamBoy
They thing I hate about bush, is that he's letting illegal's into this country.

now illegal's are a whollllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee different issue.

and also if you seen bush before he was president he spoke right, and knew what he was talking about, maybe all this power got to his head?

but yha he did kill Saddam, he was a evil Leader. and I respect that from Bush! but i still do not like illegals.

That's got to be the first time I've seen someone bash Bush for not being Republican enough. :lol:

Well Mr. Battlekruser I am impressed with your input. I don't think being Republican will become taboo ever though or I'm leaving this country forever. I don't think the war was a mistake. 3,500 casualties out of 175,000 is not really above calculated. I think we should continue our efforts. Bush made no mistake.

Oops, sorry Doodan I just did it again, I've been reading in order. I toggled multi-quote for this one I think thats what you're talking about but I'm not sure. The problem is my schedule is not very flexible so when I come on I try to respond to everyone at once. But as you can plainly see my superpost links suck.



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Sep 10 2007, 1:06 am Doodan Post #146



Yes, use the multi-quote. Thanks.



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Sep 10 2007, 1:50 am Voyager7456 Post #147

Responsible for my own happiness? I can't even be responsible for my own breakfast

I'd love to make a post, only I'm not sure I can prevent the white-hot seething mass of my anger from erupting into flames and resulting in my ban from SEN, so I think I'll just let CaptainWill take this one.



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Sep 10 2007, 2:38 am AntiSleep Post #148



I do not understand the goals of the people that like bush, It seems there are only 3 groups of people that have benefited from his tenure in the white house: Defense Contractors, Big oil, and religious fundamentalists(I am talking about both Iraq and the US).



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Sep 10 2007, 2:40 am Dr. Shotgun Post #149



Gun_Solar, please, please, fix your post BBCode. Please. It's agony to read.



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Sep 10 2007, 5:05 am Rawk_Flare Post #150



You know I think Bush doesn't know what war is really like. I mean his father was a Pres so he never went to war, and he's forcing it upon everyone else. He doesn't really comprehend how horrible it is and the pains of battle.



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Sep 10 2007, 2:46 pm AntiSleep Post #151



I am pretty sure he wouldn't care, even if he knew.



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Sep 10 2007, 2:53 pm Sael Post #152



Muslims call it a jihad - Mr. Bush calls it a crusade. What do you think happens when you elect someone who "listens to god" to the office of presidency? I'm sure many people are bitter over their shortsightedness in electing him.



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Sep 11 2007, 12:01 am GuN_Solar90 Post #153



Quote from AntiSleep
I do not understand the goals of the people that like bush, It seems there are only 3 groups of people that have benefited from his tenure in the white house: Defense Contractors, Big oil, and religious fundamentalists(I am talking about both Iraq and the US).

Umm where did my last post go...Doodan probably deleted it. It wasn't that bad its not like I was making fun of his avatar or anything I just made a comment that it was funny. And how do religious fundamentalists help more than Bush.



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Sep 11 2007, 12:06 am GuN_Solar90 Post #154



Quote from Rawk_Flare
You know I think Bush doesn't know what war is really like. I mean his father was a Pres so he never went to war, and he's forcing it upon everyone else. He doesn't really comprehend how horrible it is and the pains of battle.

You know, war cannot be defined in depth and it never will be. I especially hate when video games try to define war. "Well that's war you know." Combat operations are not just launched for no reason. We have a purpose, to eliminate global terrorism. Its not just random fighting. Conflicts are bad, and people getting killed is bad, but justice and defense of our country are worth it. Iraq and Afghanistan are pretty much under control. The only resistance is the ambushes because of all the AK-47s, RPG-7s, and other weapons the insurgents obtained. Its fueled by a religious racism thats led by idiots. Its not as bad as you think. Vietnam was pretty damn bad, there was no control. Here, we've got the general situation relatively okay.



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Sep 11 2007, 12:09 am GuN_Solar90 Post #155



Quote from Felagund
Muslims call it a jihad - Mr. Bush calls it a crusade. What do you think happens when you elect someone who "listens to god" to the office of presidency? I'm sure many people are bitter over their shortsightedness in electing him.

(Multiquote on)

Political and military leaders should not listen to God because there is no phyiscal proof of God. Religion is a whole different issue, but any actions made by these leaders should be based on physical evidence or strong reason to believe, agreed.


Ugh multiquote didn't do what I expected. Someone want to help me out please?



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Sep 11 2007, 12:15 am WoAHorde Post #156



Yet American military leaders do, because this country has turned into a Christian nation, which is the exact opposite of what the founders wanted.



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Sep 11 2007, 12:38 am PwnPirate Post #157



Quote
I am pretty sure he wouldn't care, even if he knew.
That's just personal opinion, for all you know he could be devastated.
Quote
You know I think Bush doesn't know what war is really like. I mean his father was a Pres so he never went to war, and he's forcing it upon everyone else. He doesn't really comprehend how horrible it is and the pains of battle.
Many presidents haven't been to war.



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Sep 11 2007, 12:51 am Voyager7456 Post #158

Responsible for my own happiness? I can't even be responsible for my own breakfast

Quote from GuN_Solar90
Quote from AntiSleep
I do not understand the goals of the people that like bush, It seems there are only 3 groups of people that have benefited from his tenure in the white house: Defense Contractors, Big oil, and religious fundamentalists(I am talking about both Iraq and the US).

Umm where did my last post go...Doodan probably deleted it. It wasn't that bad its not like I was making fun of his avatar or anything I just made a comment that it was funny. And how do religious fundamentalists help more than Bush.

Religious fundamentalists have benefited from Bush's presidency in numerous ways, the first one that comes to mind was him vetoing a bill allowing stem cell research from destroyed embryos.



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Sep 11 2007, 3:20 am A_of-s_t Post #159

aka idmontie

The President does not know what war is like? We must kill him now. Seriously, you really do not need to be a war veteran to be president; if that's who you would vote for, go head, but I'd rather have someone that understands politics better then military tactics.

Only "Big oil" has benifited? I didn't even know oil companies could benifit more from a war then the rest of us. Maybe you are getting confused that higher prices do not always mean higher profits.

"Yet American military leaders do, because this country has turned into a Christian nation, which is the exact opposite of what the founders wanted."
How is this a "Christian nation"? There is freedom of religion, right? Or did that get destroyed with the Patriot Act?

"I am pretty sure he wouldn't care, even if he knew."
I wouldn't either.

"I'm sure many people are bitter over their shortsightedness in electing him."
I'm pretty sure we would have a debt wether or not Bush was president. Any military exercise has debts that need to be paid, and I'm sure any president wouldn't have stood around with his dick in his hands as Iraq is able to produce WMDs.



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Sep 11 2007, 3:48 am WoAHorde Post #160



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How is this a "Christian nation"? There is freedom of religion, right? Or did that get destroyed with the Patriot Act?

Politicians, the president included, are basing their views and morals with their religion and their imaginary friend, god. The currency says "Under God", which is an insult to any non monotheistic person. In the pledge, children are forced to say "Under God", which wasn't the case 50 years ago. I can go on, this nation is obviously a christian nation. If not Christian, monotheistic.



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