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Aristocrat's Mafia #3: Dennou Coil
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Oct 19 2012, 6:47 am Azrael Post #281



Quote from Roy
Can we get an extension on voting? There's actually stuff going on warranting a 48-hour voting period, and every vote counts at this point.

Everyone has known for over a week that the deadlines would be 24 hours from now on. If one side is less organized or less active than the other side, it's their own fault. I don't want to beat Mafia if it means we have to get the host's help and change the rules of the game to do it. We are perfectly capable of winning within the preestablished ruleset.

Besides, I have a sneaking suspicious that you actually are Mafia, and you just want an extension because the other Mafia aren't as active and organized as you'd like them to be. If that's the case, it's too bad.




Oct 19 2012, 1:44 pm Roy Post #282

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

Quote from Azrael
Besides, I have a sneaking suspicious that you actually are Mafia, and you just want an extension because the other Mafia aren't as active and organized as you'd like them to be. If that's the case, it's too bad.
So many things wrong with this.

1) The mafia are definitely the most active right now. We are seeing a plethora of night actions from them.
2) The "obvious candidate," Kame, is basically confirmed to be town at this point, and you were advocating to lynch her.
3) There have been no serious discussions for other votes, so an extension on this one is not an unreasonable request.
4) Giving town less time to vote means they are more likely to make a hasty decision, which increases their chances of lynching someone innocent.

But let's look at the game's history: you've only been lynching the town since the Null died out. It doesn't look like the Megamass Researcher has the ability to repaint players on death (with exception of the fake-kill they used on me); Aristocrat probably didn't include the ability because it's been used in one way or another in the last two Beguiler games.

If you think I'm mafia, vote for me. Lead a lynch against me like you were planning to lead against Kame.

For the town, here's my full disclosure:

I am the Novice Researcher. I've only been able to use my night action once, on the first night, as I was "dead" for the rest of the game. Here's the one and only clue I got:
Quote from Aristocrat
You successfully eliminate LoTu)S.
Note that the name wasn't colored. I interpreted this to mean that the clue was a mafia-host message, making me think of who hosted last, hence my initial suspicion on Inferno (the clue interpretations in public were just a bunch of fluff so I wouldn't have to reveal my role).

Now, on to my theory:

Night 0, I've been working with Raitaki, the Encoder. Initially, he claimed that he was going to test that I was town-aligned, and I received a one-time ability that night. To my knowledge, Azrael had also been working with Raitaki at this point.

Anyway, when we get to the next day, something happens. I suspect Raitaki woke up as the Infiltrator at this point. I told him that I was suspecting Sacrieur, and he tells me that he "actually" used his town-proving ability on Sacrieur, not me. So I ignored Sacrieur, since Raitaki had proven his role to me by giving me the night ability and I had no reason to distrust him. However, the chances of Azrael's team visiting Raitaki weren't necessarily slim; my guess is they tried to use this ability that's making people go offline for a day on him, and instead triggered him to wake up as the Infiltrator. Raitaki's ability to prove town was probably still used on me, but once he turned to the mafia's side, they saw it a good opportunity to "verify" one of their own as innocent.

Now the stage is set up. Raitaki is "confirmed town," Sacrieur is "confirmed town," and Azrael falls under the one-day-offline ability, which would be a means to try and make him "confirmed town" as well. These major players built a net of false security, and it's likely that any given person trusted at least one of them. This put the mafia in control, and lynches against Null helped build credibility.

Assuming Raitaki is mafia at this point, Azrael's argument that Raitaki changed his target to BiOAtK stops holding water. He used the Encoder as an excuse to frame BiOAtK with a fake night PM, and everyone bought it. Furthermore, it seems like there is last-will tampering going on to try and help control the public decision. Take the last post, for instance: That is not Wing's last will, but it's obviously pointing to incriminate Kame. That's the kind on manipulation from a handbook. Or from last game: remember when Inferno "called out" Kame to be the last of the mafia? And you all just went along with it? If there's one living player I had to pick to trust in this game right now, it's her. And Sacrieur and Raitaki were all ready and poised to bandwagon her.

If we kill Azrael, we kill the brains behind the mafia. If we kill Raitaki, we stop the Infiltrator's suggestion influence. If we kill Kame, we let them win.




Oct 19 2012, 3:02 pm Azrael Post #283



Sorry, I'm not letting you pull off a Mafia comeback.


It's all become clear to me now.

You came up with the plan to have the Beguiler temp-kill you for 3 days. You figured it would ensure your safety, since no one could target you, infect you, or otherwise kill you in the meantime. It guaranteed that, no matter, you would live until now. You assumed that by leaving your role as Megamass Hacker, it would give you credibility; what Mafia player would ever voluntarily reveal they're Mafia when no one suspects them?

But that was the point, wasn't it?

Now, you were worried that I might figure this out and expose you, as I'm currently doing. You thought you had solved that problem; you had me temp-killed, with an ability that hid my role. My guess is that Aristocrat stopped the role from being exposed to balance the fact the ability is reusable. Your assumption was that, when I came back to life, I'd be easily killed off due to the suspicious nature of my resurrection.

It didn't quite work out as you hoped though, did it? I managed to point people in the right direction, at Raccoon, and no one gave my resurrection a second thought. If anything, it seemed to prove my innocence, since Mafia had gone out of their way to attack me. This is where your plan took a violent turn off the tracks you'd carefully laid for it.

Raccoon wasn't lying when he said he was the "former" Novice Hacker though, was he? As you were well aware at the time, his role was none other than the Infiltrator. Your Mafia team panicked, and the Beguiler exposed himself in the process: Wing Zero declared that I must be Null, and should be lynched instead of Raccoon. He was also very well-informed about the state of your death; he claimed you would resurrect today days before it happened.

Isn't it convenient that his "night result" was easy to fabricate if he was Mafia, since he already knew you were coming back to life? Of course it was, that's why he chose to "target" you with his investigation instead of a non-Mafia. It's because, in actuality, he fabricated his results and was actually using Beguiler actions instead of Investigator ones. I'm sure you knew that already though, since you're the one who created his fake night results for him.

Now here we are at an important juncture. Raccoon, the Infiltrator, is dead. The remaining Mafia are Roy (the Megamass Hacker), Wing Zero (the Megamass Researcher) who has temp-killed himself, and hidden his own role with his Beguiler powers, and Leeroy_Jenkins (the Megamass Searchmaton Controller) who has been temp-killed using the ability which automatically hides your role.

Now, on this day, Roy is the only Mafia alive. If we kill him now, we can cripple the Mafia. Him not being lynched is the only way they win.

Fire_Kame, you specifically should take note of this. Roy seems to be intent on swaying at least one person's vote to begin his Mafia bandwagon. I, too, believe that you are Town-aligned; unlike him, I can't be 100% sure of who Town is, but this is the conclusion I've come to.

My guess is that Raccoon was activated as Infiltrator on Night 0, which means Roy is likely controlling two people to vote however he wants them to. He needs at least one member of the Town to also vote alongside him, one who hasn't been Suggested, and that's where you come in. Don't be swayed by his manipulations.

While Roy is issuing orders to the Suggested Town, I have an order of my own for the true Town: Lynch Roy and bring his farce to an end.

I vote for Roy.

What's wrong Roy? Why not lynch me? Your opponent is just a Novice Detective. Or have you finally realized... the only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed!

I, Azrael, command you! Now, all of you... lynch Roy!




Oct 19 2012, 3:15 pm Fire_Kame Post #284

wth is starcraft

Azrael, it looks like we are both in the same frame of mind. I had a much longer post ready, but I'm going to trim it down since Az seems to be on the right track. I think it is apparent that now that we're reaching the end of the wire that mafia is trying to trick the town. Look at how many waffles and how much unnecessary rhetoric there is. Roy's been trying to lead all of us down multiple paths. This isn't about how organized the town or mafia are - this is about breaking that organization. Roy's misdirects and misinformation has ramped up to this climax, but we've caught you.

No deadline extensions. The mafia is either unorganized or is trying to split the votes to get away with a double or triple lynching.

I vote for Roy!


EDIT: If anyone wants to hear my full rationale, PM me. It is quite a bit longer than this. :P
EDIT 2/3: Typo (derp)

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2012, 3:34 pm by Fire_Kame.




Oct 19 2012, 5:10 pm Aristocrat Post #285



As soon as Azrael issued his command, Observer12425 and NudeRaider immediately placed their votes on Roy.

A low but audible chant of "All hail Azrael!" was heard, seemingly emanating from all directions.

Current Vote Tally:
1. Sacrieur - Fire_Kame (1)
2. SmE(Raitaki - Fire_Kame Roy
3. Roy - Azrael (1)
4. Azrael - Raitaki Roy
5. Fire_Kame - Roy
6. NudeRaider - Roy
7. Observer12425 - Roy (5)


Votes accounted for: 7/8

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2012, 5:32 pm by Aristocrat.



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Oct 19 2012, 10:57 pm Roy Post #286

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

Seems legit.

I want to hear that rationale now, Kame. :lol:

Good game, fellow townsmen. Turns out I was "dead" too long to save you. At least I called it immediately when I came back to life.

Edit: still want to know why you guys killed Lotus on the first turn. Since you're not hiding anymore, I can presume you'll answer me now?

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2012, 11:11 pm by Roy.




Oct 19 2012, 11:24 pm Raitaki Post #287



Um Roy, I told you that that action wasn't a visiting action. And I told you that I was changing targets before N0 even ended :| Are you saying it was possible for me to know I'm Infiltrator before N0 ended? :massimo:



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Oct 19 2012, 11:46 pm Roy Post #288

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

Did you tell me before night ended? I remember specifically asking if my receiving of the package proved my innocence on D1, and you replied with "Oh, no I used that on someone else."

Maybe my memory's failing me. Which will be funny once my last will is revealed.

I like how you're still pretending you're innocent after seeing Azrael mind control two players into voting for me, though, like that's not suspicious at all.




Oct 20 2012, 12:16 am Raitaki Post #289



*looks up*
Oh.





f I VOTE FIRE_KAME



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Oct 20 2012, 2:46 am Azrael Post #290



Quote from Roy
I like how you're still pretending you're innocent after seeing Azrael mind control two players into voting for me, though, like that's not suspicious at all.

Clearly you mind controlled them into following my vote until the deadline, at which point they'll switch to me.

I'm done listening to your Mafia lies.

Raitaki, vote for Roy. I already named all the Mafia, and he's obviously acting as their ringleader.

The future of the Town lies with you. We need your vote to win.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 20 2012, 3:05 am by Azrael.




Oct 20 2012, 2:54 am Sacrieur Post #291

Still Napping

I vote Azrael.



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Oct 20 2012, 3:03 am Raitaki Post #292



Okay :kame:
I vote Roy.



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Oct 20 2012, 3:08 am Generalpie Post #293

Staredit Puckwork

Roy 4 lnch



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Oct 20 2012, 3:19 am Aristocrat Post #294



Current Vote Tally:
1. Sacrieur - Fire_Kame Azrael
2. SmE(Raitaki - Fire_Kame Roy Fire_Kame Roy
3. Roy - Azrael (2)
4. Azrael - Raitaki Roy
5. Fire_Kame - Roy
6. NudeRaider - Roy
7. Observer12425 - Roy
8. Generalpie - Roy (6)


Votes accounted for: 8/8



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Oct 20 2012, 3:27 am Sacrieur Post #295

Still Napping

Azrael is either mafia or he's infiltrated the town enough to have known my role PM.

In either case, it would be best to lynch him -- but I suppose it doesn't matter.

Edit: I vote Roy.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 20 2012, 3:48 am by Sacrieur.



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Oct 20 2012, 3:58 am Roy Post #296

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

I can't win the vote, but I want to see if this will work anyway (after all, I ought to try and make at least part of what Azrael is saying true):

Sorry, I'm not letting you pull off a Mafia comeback.


It's all become clear to me now.

You came up with the plan to have the Beguiler temp-kill you for 3 days. You figured it would ensure your safety, since no one could target you, infect you, or otherwise kill you in the meantime. It guaranteed that, no matter, you would live until now. You assumed that by leaving your role as Megamass Hacker, it would give you credibility; what Mafia player would ever voluntarily reveal they're Mafia when no one suspects them?

But that was the point, wasn't it?

Now, you were worried that I might figure this out and expose you, as I'm currently doing. You thought you had solved that problem; you had me temp-killed, with an ability that hid my role. My guess is that Aristocrat stopped the role from being exposed to balance the fact the ability is reusable. Your assumption was that, when I came back to life, I'd be easily killed off due to the suspicious nature of my resurrection.

It didn't quite work out as you hoped though, did it? I managed to point people in the right direction, at Raccoon, and no one gave my resurrection a second thought. If anything, it seemed to prove my innocence, since Mafia had gone out of their way to attack me. This is where your plan took a violent turn off the tracks you'd carefully laid for it.

Raccoon wasn't lying when he said he was the "former" Novice Hacker though, was he? As you were well aware at the time, his role was none other than the Infiltrator. Your Mafia team panicked, and the Beguiler exposed himself in the process: Wing Zero declared that I must be Null, and should be lynched instead of Raccoon. He was also very well-informed about the state of your death; he claimed you would resurrect today days before it happened.

Isn't it convenient that his "night result" was easy to fabricate if he was Mafia, since he already knew you were coming back to life? Of course it was, that's why he chose to "target" you with his investigation instead of a non-Mafia. It's because, in actuality, he fabricated his results and was actually using Beguiler actions instead of Investigator ones. I'm sure you knew that already though, since you're the one who created his fake night results for him.

Now here we are at an important juncture. Raccoon, the Infiltrator, is dead. The remaining Mafia are Azrael (the Megamass Hacker), Wing Zero (the Megamass Researcher) who has temp-killed himself, and hidden his own role with his Beguiler powers, and LeeAzrael_Jenkins (the Megamass Searchmaton Controller) who has been temp-killed using the ability which automatically hides your role.

Now, on this day, Azrael is the only Mafia alive. If we kill him now, we can cripple the Mafia. Him not being lynched is the only way they win.

Fire_Kame, you specifically should take note of this. Azrael seems to be intent on swaying at least one person's vote to begin his Mafia bandwagon. I, too, believe that you are Town-aligned; unlike him, I can't be 100% sure of who Town is, but this is the conclusion I've come to.

My guess is that Raccoon was activated as Infiltrator on Night 0, which means Azrael is likely controlling two people to vote however he wants them to. He needs at least one member of the Town to also vote alongside him, one who hasn't been Suggested, and that's where you come in. Don't be swayed by his manipulations.

While Azrael is issuing orders to the Suggested Town, I have an order of my own for the true Town: Lynch Azrael and bring his farce to an end.

I vote for Azrael.

What's wrong Azrael? Why not lynch me? Your opponent is just a Novice Detective. Or have you finally realized... the only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed!

I, Azrael, command you! Now, all of you... lynch Azrael!

Azrael, it looks like we are both in the same frame of mind. I had a much longer post ready, but I'm going to trim it down since Az seems to be on the right track. I think it is apparent that now that we're reaching the end of the wire that mafia is trying to trick the town. Look at how many waffles and how much unnecessary rhetoric there is. Azrael's been trying to lead all of us down multiple paths. This isn't about how organized the town or mafia are - this is about breaking that organization. Azrael's misdirects and misinformation has ramped up to this climax, but we've caught you.

No deadline extensions. The mafia is either unorganized or is trying to split the votes to get away with a double or triple lynching.

I vote for Azrael!


EDIT: If anyone wants to hear my full rationale, PM me. It is quite a bit longer than this. :P
EDIT 2/3: Typo (derp)




Oct 20 2012, 4:08 am Aristocrat Post #297



Day 5

Vote Tally:
1. Sacrieur - Fire_Kame Azrael Roy
2. SmE(Raitaki - Fire_Kame Roy Fire_Kame Roy
3. Roy - Azrael (1)
4. Azrael - Raitaki Roy
5. Fire_Kame - Roy
6. NudeRaider - Roy
7. Observer12425 - Roy
8. Generalpie - Roy (7)

Votes accounted for: 8/8

Personnel to be eliminated: Roy




The Megamass members have revealed themselves with audacity, yet the only remaining sentient townsperson was helpless before the overwhelming majority. Roy soon lost connection with cyberspace once and for all as the Megamass members collectively hacked into his AR Visors and forcibly terminated it, with the unwitting help of Sacrieur, Observer12425, and NudeRaider, whose AR Visors were immediately shut down right after, much to their dismay.

Walking over the four collapsed group members, the remaining four Megamass agents congratulated themselves for completing the mission of containing this information outbreak. As they rounded the corner, however, they came face-to-face with a gathering of sixteen disgruntled, glasses-less young adults, cracking their knuckles and grinning in typical delinquent fashion.




As the setting sun crossed the horizon, Azrael, Generalpie, Fire_Kame, and Raitaki were left in a crumpled pile at the local garbage dump, covered in bruises and their visors broken. Yet even in this state, they let out a sigh of relief; their mission was technically accomplished, after all.

Technical Mafia Victory!




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Oct 20 2012, 4:12 am Aristocrat Post #298



Encoder Role PM

Encoder Balance Decisions

Megamass Researcher PM

Megamass Researcher Balance Decisions

Last Wills




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Oct 20 2012, 4:12 am Aristocrat Post #299



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Oct 20 2012, 4:16 am Fire_Kame Post #300

wth is starcraft

Hooah, motherfuckers. <3




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