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DevliN's Mafia: Battlestar Galactica
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Oct 19 2011, 7:04 pm DevliN Post #641

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- HOST'S OBSERVATIONS -


I set out trying to make this game as confusing as possible for people, and I think I succeeded. Not bad for my first time hosting, if I do say so myself. It became clear early on that few people knew who to trust, and the Cylons easily took advantage of the budding alliances. I don't even think that anyone suspected Aristocrat for the entire game.

I started this whole process by creating a list of clues that could be attributed to each player prior to even sorting out the roles. This list included references to posts, avatars, signatures, maps, Google search results, etc. My fear originally was that some clues would be entirely too easy to pick up, but that didn't seem to be the case ultimately. It also doesn't help that only a few people actually do clue analysis and one of them had never even been correct. This is pretty much why I eventually just gave out that easy Roman numeral clue to throw the Crew a bone.

It was interesting to watch how close the Crew was to figuring out Cylon roles right off the bat, but just barely missing the chance to. On Night 1, Roy investigated Aristocrat and then changed it to Dem0nS1ayer, but became seduced. On that same night, xAngelSpiritx investigated Azrael.Wrath, who was cleared. Had either of the Scientist findings gone through, the Crew would have known at least 1 and at most 2 Cylons by Day 1. Similarly, had the Crew lynched Lingie over their Doctor on Day 1, there would have been 1 less killing role.

The way that the Crew split was also really fascinating. Both Roy and Jack had been filling me in on events throughout the game.
  • Due to the Crew losing the Vigilante and Mortician on Night 1, it seemed like it was easy for the Cylons to start assuming their roles if they wanted to. Aristocrat saw this as his opportunity to claim Mortician and join Roy's team. Roy explained to me that Aristocrat had also tricked Lignie into revealing his role as Hitman by claiming to be the Traitor. Clever Aristocrat.
  • xAngelSpiritx was also forming an alliance under the assumption that Roy fakeclaimed Scientist and that he was the only Scientist in the game. His alliance grew to include Excalibur, Jack, Dem0nS1ayer, and Norm - though Excalibur, Jack, and Roy had already come to an agreement regarding how they didn't trust xAngelSpiritx's claim. By now both alliances also had two Cylons who they believed were confirmed Crew.
  • Jack apparently decided he should fake-claim the Bomb to trick the Cylons, though he told this plan to a Cylon so it clearly wasn't as successful as planned.
  • By Day 3, when xAngelSpiritx had revealed his role, Roy's alliance consisting of Azrael.Wrath, Aristocrat, and Tempz decided he was lying and had him lynched (another missed opportunity to lynch Lingie, as well).
  • On Night 4, the Crew's only "confirmed" Townie, Roy, was killed. This is also the night that he investigates lil-Inferno. By now Roy seemed to already know lil-Inferno was a Cylon considering he used Raitaki's PM to claim Crewmember (the same PM Norm used, as well), but wanted proof. In the event that he would die, he gave his findings to Riney along with a list of names of trustworthy players (including the not-so-trustworthy Cylons on the team), which is what led to Riney's death in the following night.
  • Night 6 was probably the most intersting as far as strategy goes. With 4 Cylons (2 being Hitmen) and 6 Crew left, it would seem like killing 2 and out-voting the Crew would be the best strategy. Instead, they decided to hit one, use Aristocrat to claim Echo was a Hitman, and then continue to control the town for another cycle. Pretty sadistic. Also I'm not sure why no one bothered to think that Aristocrat was lying considering he publicly claimed Mortician and was never hit. Oh well.

As a side note, I really did mess up the investigation results on Night 2, but obviously I couldn't confirm or deny it. On Night 1, I had sent the result saying Azrael.Wrath was a "Crewmember" rather than "member of the Crew" and that seemed to cause a bit of confusion as it was assumed I revealed his role as Crewmember. On the following Night, I was in a rush to send out the results, so I simply said to Roy "You are 100% sure Norm is a Cylon" and to xAngelSpiritx "You are 100% sure Excalibur is the Security Officer." I didn't think about it until the next day when I sent him an "OH FUCK I SENT YOU THE ROLE AND NOT ALLIANCE INFO" type of PM. I also explained that by "Crewmember" on Night 1's result, I meant "member of the Crew" and this would be fixed in future results. My goal with the results was to originally add a percentage (always keeping it between 90 and 99) with a short paragraph explaining what happened, so each night there was still some doubt that the result was accurate even if it was. The "100%" results screwed this plan up, obviously, but it didn't seem like it would have made a difference had xAngelSpiritx not claimed Scientist and tried to discredit Roy.

In conclusion, I'd say that Vrael was probably the best Crew player in this game. I added pieces to the night posts that were supposed to make people go back and look at older posts over again, and he did just that. I wasn't sure if anyone would accurately figure out the Third Testament clue, but he did (unfortunately leading to his death). Though I always appreciate Roy's analysis, he comes in a close second. He didn't catch a lot of my intentional clues, unfortunately, and he was ultimately swayed by the Cylons. The best Cylon would have to be Aristocrat. Fantastic espionage. As I mentioned above, I still don't think anyone suspected him.

Overall GG Crew and Cylons. I hope it was fun.

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Oct 19 2011, 7:04 pm DevliN Post #642

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Night Actions

Night 1

Day 1

Night 2

Day 2




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Oct 19 2011, 7:04 pm DevliN Post #643

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Night 3

Day 3

Night 4


The remaining Days had minor clues, but nothing substantial.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2011, 7:15 pm by DevliN.



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Oct 19 2011, 7:04 pm DevliN Post #644

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Night 5

Night 6

Night 7


Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2011, 7:20 pm by DevliN.



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Oct 19 2011, 7:21 pm poison_us Post #645

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Devlin, next time there are more mafia than town, end the fucking game.

As for the rest of you, why bother making fake clues against Rai when there are more mafia than town to...ugh. Fucking bullshit, every time I play mafia Azrael makes sure certain players die. The worst part about it is he comes up with justifications, like it's reasonable to kill off an ally even though most town were ignorant of him being mafia. Just terrible.


I advise all of you to remember what Azrael is when you make an alliance with him.





Oct 19 2011, 7:22 pm DevliN Post #646

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Why? Tempz was the Quorum Member, so the vote was 4 Mafia and 4 Crew. Tempz's second vote was for Rai, otherwise Azrael would have been lynched. Thanks to the "Elder," the Cylons couldn't win without a majority vote.



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Oct 19 2011, 7:24 pm Dem0n Post #647

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Wait, Tempz voted for Raitaki and Azrael? O_o




Oct 19 2011, 7:24 pm Voyager7456 Post #648

Responsible for my own happiness? I can't even be responsible for my own breakfast

Azrael's a big butthole. >:|



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Oct 19 2011, 7:25 pm DevliN Post #649

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Quote from name:Dem0nS1ayer
Wait, Tempz voted for Raitaki and Azrael? O_o
Yes. He's done some random second votes throughout the game. :P



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Oct 19 2011, 7:28 pm poison_us Post #650

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Quote from DevliN
Why? Tempz was the Quorum Member, so the vote was 4 Mafia and 4 Crew. Tempz's second vote was for Rai, otherwise Azrael would have been lynched. Thanks to the "Elder," the Cylons couldn't win without a majority vote.
Because Tempz obviously lacks the mental aptitude to have any sort of adequate semblance of intelligence allowing him to vote for mafia.





Oct 19 2011, 7:33 pm lil-Inferno Post #651

Just here for the pie

Tempz ruins it once again!




Oct 19 2011, 7:41 pm Dem0n Post #652

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Well it's a good thing that Tempz and Raitaki believed that I was helping the town. :awesome:




Oct 19 2011, 7:43 pm DevliN Post #653

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Quote from DevliN
Why? Tempz was the Quorum Member, so the vote was 4 Mafia and 4 Crew. Tempz's second vote was for Rai, otherwise Azrael would have been lynched. Thanks to the "Elder," the Cylons couldn't win without a majority vote.
Because Tempz obviously lacks the mental aptitude to have any sort of adequate semblance of intelligence allowing him to vote for mafia.
He did vote for Mafia. It's the other vote that's the problem. :awesome:



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Oct 19 2011, 7:50 pm OlimarandLouie Post #654



Who's hosting next?



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Oct 19 2011, 8:07 pm Tempz Post #655



seriously... Tempz does it again :hurr:

Btw i knew Aristocrat was mafia and thought Az was mafia but wasn't sure... I was playing the game thinking that there was 3 mafia left... Lynching Rai would make me less of target then we lynch Az this will also let me know who was most likley mafia. oh well...



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Oct 19 2011, 8:12 pm Dem0n Post #656

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I actually had no clue that Aristocrat was mafia. He did a really good job with that. =o




Oct 19 2011, 8:16 pm Tempz Post #657



Well his behavior was off. That and the fact he wanted to be the new hub player since the last one died meaning most likely there was no doctor left.



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Oct 19 2011, 8:16 pm Wing Zero Post #658

Magic box god; Suck it Corbo

AZ is a dick >.<
I actually thought Tempz was the bomb, the paranoid clues kinda seemed to point at him





Oct 19 2011, 8:17 pm Tempz Post #659



I even told Wing i was the bomb when he died

KEE KEE KEE :awesome:



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Oct 19 2011, 8:27 pm Aristocrat Post #660



Sorry about all that deception I pulled, guys. I've never done well in mafia before, so this was necessary :-( Hopefully this does not affect our alliances in future games. And Roy actually figured out the identities of every Cylon player within the first two nights, his list minus me and plus AngelSpirit. One huge threat no matter which side he's on.

Azrael.Wrath screws over the town once again. A rule of thumb here seems to be in order: If Azrael doesn't die after night 2, he's either a mafia or some role with no allegiance to the town.



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