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Gene Simmons vs Anonymous
Oct 21 2010, 1:46 am
By: Fisty  

Oct 21 2010, 1:46 am Fisty Post #1



http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.239663-Gene-Simmons-Declares-War-on-Anonymous

Quote from The Escapist
Kiss bassist and Family Jewels man Gene Simmons is going toe-to-toe with the hordes of Anonymous after his personal website was brought down earlier this week as part of Operation Payback.

Whether it's as the fire-breathing, blood-yakking demon from Kiss or the preening, vaguely buffoonish latter-day Ward Cleaver on A&E, there's no denying that Gene Simmons is an outsized, outspoken personality. When the man speaks, he gets noticed. And when he told a Mipcom conference on building successful entertainment brands that the music industry should protect itself from downloaders by suing the pants off anyone and everyone who dares snag a song off the internet, he got the notice of a lot of people who don't exactly share his point of view.

"Make sure your brand is protected, be litigious, sue anybody - take their homes, their cars, don't let anybody cross that line," he said at the time. "The music industry was asleep at the wheel and didn't have the balls to go and sue every fresh-faced, freckle-faced college kid who downloaded a clip, so now we're left with hundreds of people without jobs."

Not long after, Anonymous came a-knockin', hammering Simmons' site into oblivion as part of Operation Payback, a widespread, long-running DDoS campaign against organizations like the MPAA, the RIAA, the U.K. Intellectual Property Office and at least one high-profile law firm involved in anti-piracy litigation. The site was eventually brought back online, giving Simmons the opportunity to let Anonymous know that he's in no mood to place nice.

"Some of you may have heard a few popcorn farts re: our sites being threatened by hackers," he wrote. "Our legal team and the FBI have been on the case and we have found a few, shall we say 'adventurous' young people, who feel they are above the law. And, as stated in my MIPCOM speech, we will sue their pants off. First, they will be punished. Second, they might find their little butts in jail, right next to someone who's been there for years and is looking for a new girl friend."

"We will soon be printing their names and pictures," he continued. "We will find you. You cannot hide. Stay tuned."

That's what ReadWriteWeb.com says, anyway. Anonymous apparently isn't interested in hugging it out either, because the site was brought down again very soon after Simmons posted his threat. Visitors to genesimmons.com are currently being redirected to the Pirate Bay, with occasional side-trips to a cybersquatter search site.

So who's going to win in this epic clash of the titans? Gene Simmons is a huge Type-A personality and a very shrewd businessman, but baiting Anonymous doesn't strike me as a particularly smart idea for anyone. Whatever happens, I expect plenty of fireworks and amusement along the way. Whoever loses, as the saying goes, we win.

Oh hot damn, this will be a show. Whatever happens here, I think Anonymous and Gene are both in for an ass kicking.



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Oct 21 2010, 5:18 pm Aristocrat Post #2



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"Make sure your brand is protected, be litigious, sue anybody - take their homes, their cars, don't let anybody cross that line," he said at the time. "The music industry was asleep at the wheel and didn't have the balls to go and sue every fresh-faced, freckle-faced college kid who downloaded a clip, so now we're left with hundreds of people without jobs."
Like suing 12-year-old children for $150,000 a song creates new jobs in the market :rolleyes:

Okay Gene Simmons, since you now have to drive a Ferrari instead Lamborghini because people downloaded songs, your stance is to sue otherwise typical people into bankruptcy? You call this moral practice?

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"Some of you may have heard a few popcorn farts re: our sites being threatened by hackers," he wrote. "Our legal team and the FBI have been on the case and we have found a few, shall we say 'adventurous' young people, who feel they are above the law. And, as stated in my MIPCOM speech, we will sue their pants off. First, they will be punished. Second, they might find their little butts in jail, right next to someone who's been there for years and is looking for a new girl friend."

"We will soon be printing their names and pictures," he continued. "We will find you. You cannot hide. Stay tuned."
>Website goes down for a few hours
>Publicly age about threatening to put people in jail

:lol:

Oh Gene Simmons, you seem to believe that you are above the law. Celebrity status does not confer the ability to dominate people's lives, child.



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Oct 22 2010, 12:45 am dumbducky Post #3



Gene Simmons hasn't done anything against the law. Anonymous did. Also, this will fizzle out in a week and no one will care, just like operation chanology. Remember when anonymous declared they were going to take down the Church of Scientology? Shit was going down, Time wrote an article about it, then so did everyone else, and then everyone moved on with the lives.



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Oct 22 2010, 12:56 am MadZombie Post #4



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You call this moral practice?
Impractical moral practice. It's still illegal. Though they the numbers are ridiculous. Why do these people feel the need to make an example of people by suing them for thousands of dollars when even if they would have payed for all those songs legit, they wouldn't have even wasted an eighth of what they were getting sued for. The cost of things like lawyers should be covered by the people suing imo. Especially if they want to make a point. I mean if the main reason was to stop pirating it would be nice if they didn't mind putting money into stopping piracy.

Why don't these companies go around suing a lot more people with smaller fines? I guess that's impractical but it would seem more effective. Getting sued for piracy kind of seems like getting struck by lightning.



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Oct 22 2010, 12:56 am Aristocrat Post #5



It's ironic how Gene Simmons doesn't care about the fact that his son blatantly plagiarizes Bleach yet flips out at college students downloading .mp3s from the internet. Oh the hypocrisy :rolleyes:

negrodamus, law abiding != morally just. Simmons doesn't automatically become the "correct" party just because he broke no laws. Hell, slavery was legal in this country a few centuries back; does this mean that slavery is moral? No. Neither is putting people in jail over a few hours of website downtime.



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Oct 22 2010, 4:25 am The Starport Post #6




Thank you. Now I shall never sleep again.



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Oct 23 2010, 12:08 am dumbducky Post #7



Quote from Aristocrat
It's ironic how Gene Simmons doesn't care about the fact that his son blatantly plagiarizes Bleach yet flips out at college students downloading .mp3s from the internet. Oh the hypocrisy :rolleyes:

negrodamus, law abiding != morally just. Simmons doesn't automatically become the "correct" party just because he broke no laws. Hell, slavery was legal in this country a few centuries back; does this mean that slavery is moral? No. Neither is putting people in jail over a few hours of website downtime.
Shifting goal posts...



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Oct 23 2010, 3:39 am Roy Post #8

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Quote from Aristocrat
It's ironic how Gene Simmons doesn't care about the fact that his son blatantly plagiarizes Bleach ...
Oh come on, maybe it's just coinciden-



Damn, he's not even trying to hide it, is he?




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