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Inferno Builds a PC
Dec 15 2015, 9:20 pm
By: lil-Inferno  

Dec 15 2015, 9:20 pm lil-Inferno Post #1

Just here for the pie

So I suddenly have money in my bank account and wanna build a PC as my laptop is quickly aging (it's 4 years old now) and no longer offers the performance and screen real estate that I want.

Though I haven't gamed much lately (which is more a symptom of not having proper hardware than it is total lack of interest) I'd like to play modern titles (Fallout 4 in particular) at 60+ fps and at least 1080p, 1440p if possible. 4K would be great, but I feel that would push my budget too far. The majority of the time I spend using my current laptop is spent doing Android development, which, because of the hardware, moves at a snail's pace (it often takes minutes just to debug on an emulator. Starting up an Android VM and starting up Android Studio both take a while as well) and I'd especially like to rectify that as it cuts into potential productivity and sanity.

The only peripheral I absolutely need is a keyboard. I'd like to try out a mechanical, clickety-clackety one. I have a mouse that could be replaced by something better, so feel free to also include a mouse. I also have a 27-inch, 60hz, 1080p HP monitor laying around that suffices for now, but feel free to include a potential replacement.

Other than that I'm starting from ground zero. I'd like an SSD, and for an HDD would only want around 1 TB as I don't hoard a lot of media. Are there any new technologies coming out soon that I should hold out on?

Budget: $2000, though I am willing to go a little over this if the performance boost is worth it. It'll pay itself off and then some quickly, anyway.
Budget for Excalibur: $1500, since you always go way over budget anyway.

I'll likely build the rig in early 2016, so I'm willing to wait for sales.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 15 2015, 9:42 pm by lil-Inferno.




Dec 15 2015, 9:48 pm rockz Post #2

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Prior to purchasing a keyboard, go try out various ones at Best Buy/Staples/Computer stores. If you happen to know some folks with mechs, you can try to bum off of them.

My personal recommendation of choice would be a Realforce 87U with 55G caps, but you'll have to determine this yourself based on a guide like this. I regret not buying a tenkeyless.

Barring Mechanicals, if you need something to tide you over, the best rubber dome membrane keyboard out there is likely the sidewinder x4. It will last you a good amount of time, and you might not want to bother with a mech until you've done thorough research.

As for mice, I purchased an mx518 that lasted 7 years before the cable broke. My g400 lasted less than 2 and died in the same way, so Logitech actually sent me a replacement g402, which as far as I can tell is fantastic, and I can highly recommend it and logitech in general.



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Dec 15 2015, 10:51 pm Generalpie Post #3

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You could also buy a Cherry MX sample board for relatively cheap as well.



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Dec 15 2015, 11:06 pm Roy Post #4

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Quote from lil-Inferno
The only peripheral I absolutely need is a keyboard. I'd like to try out a mechanical, clickety-clackety one. I have a mouse that could be replaced by something better, so feel free to also include a mouse. I also have a 27-inch, 60hz, 1080p HP monitor laying around that suffices for now, but feel free to include a potential replacement.
There are a handful of good mechanical keyboards out there. My personal recommendation goes out to WASD Keyboards, but they're also the most expensive. I've heard good things of the Corsair K70, though that isn't much cheaper. Another popular brand is Ducky, though people complain about a feedback twang in those boards. Finally, I recommend against Das Keyboards, which used to stand for quality, but over the years they have outsourced their manufacturing and swapped out their parts for cheaper alternatives while maintaining a price premium.

Quote from lil-Inferno
Are there any new technologies coming out soon that I should hold out on?
Nope. The next 6 months have just about nothing new in store for you. Possibly the next big thing is going to be Nvidia's Pascal GPUs, though the speculated release is Q2 2016.

Anydoodle, here's the "smart" build I made for you:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($273.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.25 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card ($394.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1272.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-15 18:00 EST-0500
CPU: Skylake i5, yadda-yadda, you know the drill here. On your budget, you can and probably should bump it up to an i7, but it's not mandatory.

HSF: A really nice cooler that's easy to install; it outperforms the most-popular CM Hyper 212 EVO. It'll let you overclock, so long as you aren't trying to set any records.

Mobo: Everything you need, unless you were planning on 3x SLI, in which case, your options are much more limited (and expensive).

RAM: Fast and affordable, like it should be. And G.Skill is a pretty reputable brand as a bonus.

SSD: The economical option. 500GB should be enough to store all of your non-media data comfortably, depending on your games library.

HDD: Hitachi actually has a nice track record on reliability, and a 1TB drive is pretty cheap.

GPU: AMD has done a better job scaling up to resolutions above 1080p, so this is the most obvious choice. An excellent price, too, considering it's $100 less than the comparable GTX 980.

Case: The R5 is a clean, simple case. It's relatively new (succeeding the R4), and yet it's already very popular.

PSU: Shitty price, but a good power supply (Seasonic OEM). If you had to wait on a deal, wait on either this PSU to drop in price or a similar/better one to go on sale.

Now, that's way under budget, so if you had to act like this is government funding and you needed to either spend it or lose it, I'd upgrade the CPU and GPU, and if that wasn't enough, I'd get really fancy and go with the new NVMe SSD technology. Something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($360.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.25 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($646.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1877.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-15 18:09 EST-0500
CPU: Yay, an i7. I had to manually enter a price because there aren't any 6700Ks available right now, according to PCPP.

SSD: The 950 Pro uses the M.2 slot on the motherboard (which can use it as a boot drive; check reviews if you need to). And it's fast.

HDD: Why not get a larger hard drive while you're at it? Buy 2 terabytes, get 1 free!

GPU: The 980 Ti is just my favorite high-end card. You could also consider the Fury X, as it's a fierce competitor for maybe $50 less on average.

PSU: Another Seasonic, though EVGA put their sticker on it; again, not an amazing price, but the extra headroom will get you closer to running at 50% capacity on load, which is where the PSU will generally be most efficient.

And that leaves you with about $150 to get a WASD V2 keyboard.

Edit: Bargain bin:

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Dec 19 2015, 9:36 pm by Roy.




Dec 20 2015, 1:50 am Excalibur Post #5

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Not going to bother going in depth until you're actually ready to buy. Here's a rough outline:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($303.57 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.20 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-E ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($147.64 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($99.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.44 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Directron)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 380X 4GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($235.38 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.18 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.21 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: AZIO MGK1 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($64.18 @ B&H)
Mouse: Corsair Sabre Wired Laser Mouse ($58.83 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1247.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-19 20:50 EST-0500




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Dec 24 2015, 7:05 pm Roy Post #6

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Refreshing part list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($364.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.25 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Krait ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($183.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($639.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1664.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-24 13:45 EST-0500
CPU: At $420, the 6700K just isn't worth it. If the price comes down, Skylake will be an option, but for now, the 5820K is a good option. If you truly want the best bang for your buck, go back to Haswell and the 4790K.

HSF: The H5 Ultimate is actually the exact same price as the H5 Universal right now. The only difference between the two is the fan, so get the better one.

Mobo: X99 boards are always so damn expensive.

RAM: Hasn't changed. These are still the best deal on PCPP.

SSD: The fastest SATA read speeds on the market. I'd hold out until you can get it for cheaper or bundled with a game, though.

HDD: The Caviar Blue is pretty reliable.

GPU: Hasn't changed. The FTW version is usually pricier, but it's EVGA's cheapest offering at the moment.

Case: Hasn't changed. There are many alternate cases you could consider around this price range if the R5 isn't doing anything for you.

PSU: Hasn't changed. The 650 GS dropped in price thanks to a rebate deal and is now actually a decent buy.


Bargain bin:






Dec 25 2015, 12:08 am lil-Inferno Post #7

Just here for the pie

Quote from Roy
Refreshing part list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($364.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.25 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Krait ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($183.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($639.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1664.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-24 13:45 EST-0500
CPU: At $420, the 6700K just isn't worth it. If the price comes down, Skylake will be an option, but for now, the 5820K is a good option. If you truly want the best bang for your buck, go back to Haswell and the 4790K.

HSF: The H5 Ultimate is actually the exact same price as the H5 Universal right now. The only difference between the two is the fan, so get the better one.

Mobo: X99 boards are always so damn expensive.

RAM: Hasn't changed. These are still the best deal on PCPP.

SSD: The fastest SATA read speeds on the market. I'd hold out until you can get it for cheaper or bundled with a game, though.

HDD: The Caviar Blue is pretty reliable.

GPU: Hasn't changed. The FTW version is usually pricier, but it's EVGA's cheapest offering at the moment.

Case: Hasn't changed. There are many alternate cases you could consider around this price range if the R5 isn't doing anything for you.

PSU: Hasn't changed. The 650 GS dropped in price thanks to a rebate deal and is now actually a decent buy.


Bargain bin:

I went ahead and treated myself to an early Christmas by purchasing the parts for this build. Managed to save some money despite NJ's 7% tax by buying some parts with damaged packaging on Amazon. Will post pics and stuff when the build is complete C|:^ )




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