Wait what, why would you get beguiler to make you appear mafia-aligned?

Also, . Guess I'll vote BioAtk (and this has nothing to do with him saying he'll have himself appear mafia-aligned )

I'm not saying I'm going to make myself mafia aligned. I meant the beguiler will make me appear mafia when I get lynched.

Eh. Sorry for misunderstanding then. In that case, I'll just abstain for now.

Last game I didn't follow my intuition when I could have. I think that bioatk might be innocent, and I also see some new information here in the night posts...I change my vote to poison.

Wait, what? What kind of bullshit is that? I'm pretty sure you just completely made that up.

I vote for Fire_Kame.

Just so my suspicion is on the record.

CYBERFORENSIC INVESTIGATOR.

At least we know his role wasn't altered.

Edit: Unless he's the Beguiler, and that's what he wanted us to think.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 18 2012, 9:43 pm by Azrael.

This is really weird.

I should also point out it was obvious that BioAtk was setup. I think it's time to put an end to this witch hunt.


I vote Fire_Kame.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2012, 4:50 am by Sacrieur.

Wait what
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Okay, I expected Sac to come back, but Roy?
Well whatever. I vote Kame.

Well, that was... interesting.

To be honest, I haven't really been paying attention to mafia developments, but I have good reason to believe either Azrael or Sacrieur is mafia. Stay with me here:

This ability that keeps fake-killing for one day is reusable, it seems, and it seems unintuitive that mafia would use it on one of their own, right? That's the first level of reasoning we reach, but there's a significant flaw there in that the affected person's role is not revealed, which makes it advantageous to use on a mafia in certain scenarios.

It would thereby be in the mafia's best interest to fake-kill one of their own to make them a pseudo-confirmed townie. I don't think any mafia group would be dumb enough to kill an innocent Azrael to make him a potential hub for the town, but Azrael, if he were mafia, would certainly employ such a strategy on himself if he felt his role could miss a night in return for additional public trust. Azrael being a less-important mafia role would make the most sense (quite possibly being the Megamass Researcher himself; a possibility, considering there seemed to be no shenanigans during his own fake death). The fact that Azrael is usually responsible for this level of critical consideration but has not really done any analysis on these fake deaths and what they mean also supports this theory. Against this theory, however, are the claims Azrael is making in regards to his night actions being manipulated and receiving strange PMs, but to that we only have his word that he isn't fabricating it.

But going further, let's assume Azrael is innocent. After a full cycle of him coming back to life and nobody suspecting the person who fake-died to be mafia, this likely would have triggered the idea that the mafia had not yet considered: they could fake-kill one of their own to make them seem less suspicious. Enter Sacrieur, victim number 2. By this theory, Sacrieur is a member of the mafia that was selected to go through this pseudo-confirmation in hopes the town would buy into it.

As for Leeroy, I'm not sure, but it's likely just mafia attempting to shut down town roles at random, which could very well be the case for Sacrieur as well.

Now here's where things get tricky:

Azrael presented the evidence to get BiOAtK lynched, even though he claimed his night action results were tampered with; nobody should have voted for BiOAtK from this claim. Why the fuck would you trust that a PM clearly altered by the Megamass Researcher would actually change Azrael's PM to a legitimate mafia murder? Seriously, I want to hear reasoning for this; it blows my mind that you guys lynched Bio. Hell, Bio even said he was being framed! Azrael included that his original target was not Bio, which would be risky for a mafia to make up on the spot if they wanted Bio to actually get lynched, although it turned out that you guys went through with it anyway. My only question is why? Well, assuming you guys are actually putting thought into your actions, there's one answer I have: the bandwagon was lead by mafia, and the sheep followed. Who started the lynch? Azrael. Keep in mind that Azrael is normally a highly analytical player, and had absolutely no reason to vote for BiO if he truly experienced what he described and confirmed the tampering's legitimacy with Aristocrat before voting. Wing Zero and Kame immediately followed, but they're sheepy players anyway (and Wing died, so there's that), so it's hard to say if they were in on it.

Sacrieur, on the other hand, has supposedly been confirmed as a townie, or so I've been told despite my initial suspicions of him before I had died.

I like how it still says I'm the Megamass Hacker, too. It makes me wonder why mafia didn't actually use this three-day-death ability on one of their own with a townie role. Maybe they assume you guys would want to lynch me because it "proves" that I'm mafia. At this rate, I don't blame them for trying.

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TL;DR:

I'm not sure if you accidentally or purposely overlooked this last part. The Encoder in question told me you're aware of who he is.

Oh, that was indeed overlooked. I did mention that I hadn't been paying much attention when I was dead, right?

I guess I'll stick to clue analysis.
Checkmate, Kame. Though this sounds like a last will.

Edit: Since Azrael believes you all have short attention spans and don't recognize famous lines of movies, here's the instructions: Play the video at 3:00.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2012, 5:39 am by Roy.

Current Vote Tally:

Votes accounted for: 2/8

I vote Azrael.

Not that it matters; with Leeroy unable to vote and the Infiltrator controlling up to 3 townies' votes right now, the game is basically over. There's 8 players, one which cannot vote (likely a townie). Assuming 4 mafia, they outnumber us even without the Infiltrator. I don't get why this game is still going, honestly. Am I doing math wrong?

I'm not sure why you're voting for me, do you even have a reason? I like how I suggested in the shoutbox that you might possibly be Mafia who was just temp-killed by your own alignment, and you immediately vote for me in the lynch. Defensive much?

As for your proposed question, even if Mafia did outnumber the Town, the game wouldn't end until the end of the day, based on the outcome of the lynch. I'm thinking your math is probably off anyways though, since it seems you're pulling your numbers out of thin air.

Edit:


I vote for Raitaki.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 19 2012, 6:26 am by Azrael.

There's 7 checkmarks in the player list, plus Leeroy who is grayed out. 7 + 1 = 8. Sorry for not providing that arithmetic.

There are 4 mafia roles, and it's unlikely that Aristocrat dropped any. Therefore, there are at least 4 mafia, and no evidence that any have died.

I've figured Azrael, Raitaki, and Sacrieur to be mafia, meaning there's one left. If you guys think it would be better to kill the Infiltrator, we should lynch Raitaki. The problem with this is that he'll show up as town, which makes my case less credible, and we truly need every town vote we can get to be organized.

Like I said, it looks like the numbers are already against us and we'll lose at the end of the day anyway. Unless Leeroy is the missing mafia in my list, but who the fuck would disable three of their teammates, and why would they disable a mafia on a day when they can outvote town by disabling one of them instead? Doesn't make sense, which is why I believe Leeroy is innocent.

EDIT: Oh shit, no checkmark by me. 9 players total. So we can... tie with the mafia vote if Leeroy is innocent, assuming the Infiltrator isn't controlling any votes.

I think I've determined with ~80% certainty that I'm the unaware Infiltrator.
I am also the Encoder.
I also have the ability to completely lock myself out of the rest of the game AND still be able to use night actions, so to hell with Mafia victory involving me.
Here's the people I thought was definitely scum before I found out the overwhelming possibility of me being Infiltrator: Fire_Kame, Roy

If I am Infiltrator (which I most likely am, based on my and other night results), then the rest of the scumteam I'd say are Fire_Kame, Generalpie, and either Observer or Roy.

Also, I've also determined that if Roy is town, then no matter what transpires, town would still be completely and utterly fucked.
I vote Roy.

gg everyone. Let's see how this turns out Also, Megamass Researcher, I challenge you to penetrate my defenses and visit me tonight
Lastly, Sacrieur is my confirmed-via-night-action Novice Detective. Get off him you bitches.

EDIT: lol you ass, you ninja'd me

Can we get an extension on voting? There's actually stuff going on warranting a 48-hour voting period, and every vote counts at this point.