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Sacrieur's Excessive Assembly
Jul 27 2013, 3:55 am
By: Sacrieur  

Jul 27 2013, 3:55 am Sacrieur Post #1

Still Napping

We do what we must because we can.

Excessive? Over the top? Expensive? Yes please.


Purpose: serious data crunching, high powered gaming, bragging rights, photo editing, server applications.




Project on hold until a review of Broadwell processors.

Color Code

Green: Purchased price.
Purple: Price with rebate discount.

Strike through mean the item is purchased.





Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D

PSU: SeaSonic 80 Plus Platinum 1000W

Motherboard: Asus RoG Maximus VI Formula (not yet released)

CPU: Intel Broadwell 8 Cores (not yet released, uses LGA 1150 socket)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i $89.99

RAM: Corsair Dominator 2800 (4x 4 GB) DDR3

Graphics: EVGA GTX Titan

GPU cooling yet to be determined.

Peripheral: Das Keyboard $113.99

Other: Reliable SSD (at least 240 GB), quality peripherals, wireless adapter.

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Order of purchase.

1) Case.

2) PSU.

3) Motherboard, CPU, RAM, and Networking.

4) Graphics

5) SSD

6) Peripherals.




Sacrieur's Current Build

Case: Corsair 600T Graphite
Mobo: Intel H67
PSU: Seasonic 650W Gold
CPU: Core i3 3225
Graphics: Sapphire 6780
RAM: 2x Mushkin Essentials 4 GB (8 GB total)
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 60 GB.
HDD: WD 1 TB 7200 RPM Black

Post has been edited 11 time(s), last time on Aug 8 2013, 2:01 pm by Sacrieur.



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Jul 27 2013, 4:49 am jjf28 Post #2

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Purpose: serious data crunching, high powered gaming, bragging rights, photo editing, server applications. For Science!



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Jul 27 2013, 4:58 am Excalibur Post #3

The sword and the faith

Get a different PSU. SeaSonic would be far better than EVGA. Not that EVGA is bad, but SeaSonic is #1, and if bragging rights are at all a factor, then you want the #1 PSU brand in the world.

Rather than a Corsair or other closed loop cooler I suggest the Spire Thermax Eclipse II
http://www.amazon.com/Spire-Thermax-Eclipse-V3-SP984N1CPU/dp/B003EI4P38
#1 rated air heatsink on Frostytech. Its straight baller.

If you don't like that, I'd suggest the Phanteks PH-TC14
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709001
Another awesome air cooler, comes with options for different fan colors as well.

For the SSD you can check out Anandtech's review of the new Samsung 840 EVOs
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-review-120gb-250gb-500gb-750gb-1tb-models-tested
Intel is cool and all but the Samsung 840s are where its at in SSDs. For what you're spending you could grab a Pro edition for even more speed and bragging rights.

Also keep in mind on the memory, latency is usually a larger factor for DDR3 than frequency. I'd rather see you get something closer to DDR3-2200 and drop the latency a bit. I remember Anandtech or someone doing a frequency versus latency review but I forget the exact results.




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Jul 27 2013, 5:18 am Sacrieur Post #4

Still Napping

Aw Ex, you know just what to say :cube:

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I already own a Seasonic x650. It's quiet as as a mouse. Top quality and the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.

I actually saw that the air coolers were outperforming the liquid coolers. The only advantage for liquid is that it was quieter. I suppose if I really wanted the best of the best I could just wait around until Sandia's coolers hit the market (Who knows when that will be).

I didn't realize Samsung stepping up their game. They've been getting serious with their electronics quality. But I'm leaning more towards the reliability with SSDs. I think OCZ has taught us speed aint everything (I hear they're having problems with their new vector line).

I'll check out the memory difference.



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Jul 27 2013, 5:25 am Excalibur Post #5

The sword and the faith

The air coolers can be quieter if you have a fan controller or use software to keep them in line with the CPU load. Honestly the difference is minimal in noise and I just don't feel like closed loop coolers are mature enough yet to be considered as a long term solution. I've heard horror stories about Corsair H series products leaking. :(

For the PSU a X-750 would probably do you just fine. :)

Samsung is out for blood. A lot of tech companies have or are in danger of going under and Samsung has a clear message: We will kill the competition or die trying.




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Jul 27 2013, 5:31 am Sacrieur Post #6

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The air coolers can be quieter if you have a fan controller or use software to keep them in line with the CPU load. Honestly the difference is minimal in noise and I just don't feel like closed loop coolers are mature enough yet to be considered as a long term solution. I've heard horror stories about Corsair H series products leaking. :(

That's a damn pity. I hear Corsair will replace the cost of the components if it's caused by their product being faulty (I wouldn't rely on that).

I suppose I can grab some heat resistant silicone sealant and go over the all the seals for extra protection.



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Jul 27 2013, 6:04 am Excalibur Post #7

The sword and the faith

That'd be a good move if you feel you must go with the closed loop coolers.

From what I hear the NZXT closed loop offerings are just as good or better than the Corsairs. I'd seriously give them a look. NZXT as a company has come a long way and in the past two years have been delivering amazing products with killer designs. I feel right now they're counted out way too quickly when they should be considered better than Cooler Master on cases and Xigmatek/Scythe on cooling. Give the Kraken series of coolers a look, you wont be sorry you did.




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Jul 27 2013, 7:13 am Sacrieur Post #8

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The only problem with that design is while it may prevent a leak, it does not let let me know if the device is leaking. Fortunately I've thought of a solution.

I'll wrap all of the seals with water indicator tape, and then seal it with silicone. I'll use shrink wrap to mold the silicone into an even shape, remove the shrink wrap, and then finish by wrapping the silicone in clear, heat resistant tape to help protect the silicone. In this way, Not only do you prevent a leak from damaging your system, but also have an indicator for if the product is defective and needs to be replaced.

The materials should cost < $20.



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Jul 27 2013, 1:34 pm Generalpie Post #9

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the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.
True DM. I use the bag my Sennheisers came in :awesome:
Wtf do you do to afford all this?



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Jul 27 2013, 4:44 pm Sacrieur Post #10

Still Napping

Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.
True DM. I use the bag my Sennheisers came in :awesome:
Wtf do you do to afford all this?

I work. All the time.



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Jul 27 2013, 6:24 pm Generalpie Post #11

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Quote from Sacrieur
Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.
True DM. I use the bag my Sennheisers came in :awesome:
Wtf do you do to afford all this?

I work. All the time.
So do I, and let me say time and a half and a half overtime (plus other bonuses) gets me nowhere NEAR as much as being able to afford this.



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Jul 27 2013, 6:39 pm Sacrieur Post #12

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Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.
True DM. I use the bag my Sennheisers came in :awesome:
Wtf do you do to afford all this?

I work. All the time.
So do I, and let me say time and a half and a half overtime (plus other bonuses) gets me nowhere NEAR as much as being able to afford this.

Set aside $300 a month for bills. The rest is yours to keep for whatever. Consider that I'm buying it in stages (especially whenever there's a sale).


For instance, this is on sale for $50 cheaper ($70 with rebate). Ex what do you think?

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Jul 27 2013, 7:04 pm Generalpie Post #13

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Quote from Sacrieur
Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.
True DM. I use the bag my Sennheisers came in :awesome:
Wtf do you do to afford all this?

I work. All the time.
So do I, and let me say time and a half and a half overtime (plus other bonuses) gets me nowhere NEAR as much as being able to afford this.

Set aside $300 a month for bills. The rest is yours to keep for whatever. Consider that I'm buying it in stages (especially whenever there's a sale).


For instance, this is on sale for $50 cheaper ($70 with rebate). Ex what do you think?

That's what I'm doing, except my computer is a lot less expensive, such as my CPU being bundled with 8gb of good RAM.
Also, your low cost of living probably has something to do with it.



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Jul 27 2013, 7:11 pm Sacrieur Post #14

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Quote from Generalpie
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Quote from Generalpie
Quote from Sacrieur
the bag is useful for holding D&D dice.
True DM. I use the bag my Sennheisers came in :awesome:
Wtf do you do to afford all this?

I work. All the time.
So do I, and let me say time and a half and a half overtime (plus other bonuses) gets me nowhere NEAR as much as being able to afford this.

Set aside $300 a month for bills. The rest is yours to keep for whatever. Consider that I'm buying it in stages (especially whenever there's a sale).


For instance, this is on sale for $50 cheaper ($70 with rebate). Ex what do you think?

That's what I'm doing, except my computer is a lot less expensive, such as my CPU being bundled with 8gb of good RAM.
Also, your low cost of living probably has something to do with it.

Yes, my cost of living is absurdly low.



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Jul 27 2013, 7:25 pm Roy Post #15

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Maxwell will be coming out next year; I don't know if you'll feel bad for buying a GPU that will be outdated possibly within months of building your machine. Looks like Broadwell, on the other hand, won't be out until 2015, and Intel is planning a Haswell refresh next year instead.

Platinum > gold. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151111. If you plan on running more than one Titan in SLI, you'll need a more powerful PSU.

Also my friend got 32GB of RAM as bragging rights; you may want to consider wasting some money there as well. :P

Peripherals: the obvious keyboard choice is the Das Keyboard Ultimate (or the professional version if you can't handle blank keys), bragging rights and all. I can't speak for the blue switches (never tried them), but I was thoroughly disappointed by the mushiness of the brown switches when comparing it to the keyboard I have now, which is a custom Unicomp Ultra Classic 104 buckle-spring keyboard. Those Unicomp keyboards have a couple firmware issues, though: sometimes the num/caps/scroll lock lights don't light up when booting/waking up the computer and you have to toggle one (e.g., pressing caps lock twice) to wake the lights up, and sometimes after a hard crash the keyboard won't be recognized as plugged in, so you have to unplug / replug it. They're also ridiculously heavy. But despite those issues it's the best keyboard experience I've had.

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Set aside $300 a month for bills.
Well, that takes care of a fraction of my rent.




Jul 27 2013, 10:55 pm Fire_Kame Post #16

wth is starcraft

$300 is about a third of our rent, and that does not include utilities or internets.




Jul 28 2013, 12:19 am Excalibur Post #17

The sword and the faith

Go for the SeaSonic over the EVGA.

Would probably be best to wait for the new GPUs to come out as Roy suggested.




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Jul 28 2013, 2:19 am Sacrieur Post #18

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yeah it's likely I won't get a gpu for awhile anyway, what with it being 1.3k and all.



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Jul 29 2013, 4:11 am rockz Post #19

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121089
I'd get this over the seasonic, but only because I don't mind my voltages a little higher than spec.

ram above ddr3-1600 has virutally no performance gains. I have yet to see even a synthetic benchmark which shows any difference.

ddr3-1333 is only slower on AMD APU builds. I would recommend 32 GB of ddr3-1866 for good measure. Cheapest I found was this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231611



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Jul 29 2013, 10:54 am NudeRaider Post #20

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ram above ddr3-1600 has virutally no performance gains. I have yet to see even a synthetic benchmark which shows any difference.

ddr3-1333 is only slower on AMD APU builds. I would recommend 32 GB of ddr3-1866 for good measure. Cheapest I found was this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231611
sheeesh -- what about bragging rights?




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