If Lanthanide's, Raitaki's, and TiKel's bills pass this evening, President Azrael Wrath will be able to act on them. (Presidential action and overrides don't need to wait on my updates.)
Yr 1 Bills
Quote from Lanthanide''s Bill
+ Environment
- Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
Quote from Raitaki's Bill
+Equality
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
+Economy
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
+ Order
+ Morality
+ Environment
- Economy
- Freedom
- Technology
OlimarandLouie : NO
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : NO
Lanthanide : YES
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
3/7
Quote from FaRTy1billion's Bill
+Morality
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
5/7
Quote from Fire_Kame''s Bill
+Order
+Technology
+Freedom
-Economy
-Morality
-Environment
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : NO
Fire_Kame : YES
TiKels : NO
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
Lanthanide: NO
3/7
Quote from OlimarandLouie's Bill
+Economy
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
FaRTy1billion : YES
payne: NO
5/6
All times are in CST.
Quote from Bill Deadlines
Voting for these players' bills ends on the date and time listed (72 hours after introduction).
Lanthanide Dec 22, 6:39 pm
Raitaki Dec 22 7:17 pm
TiKels Dec 22 7:42 pm
payne Dec 23 12:42 am
Fire_Kame Dec 23 4:02 pm
FaRTy1billion Dec 23 4:07 pm
OlimarandLouie Dec 24 3:54 pm
*indicates exact time was unavailable at time of this post (Due to SEN's "3 hours ago" timestamp), exact time will be determined in the future.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Presidential Action
These bills have passed Congress and await presidential action. The President's acting period for these bills (48 hours after Congressional voting) ends at the date and time listed.
-
Quote from Bills Awaiting Override Action
Congress has until the date and time listed to override a presidential veto (24 hours the president's veto). The last votes on the bill will remain standing (you do not need to re-vote).
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Quote from Bills Implemented
Bills that were introduced this year and have been implemented are listed here.
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Win by luck, lose by skill.
Dang this is seems to be alot more intresting than i thought... i wish i joined
.
None.
You could take over poison_us's position until he gets his internet working (or forever), he asked for a replacement four pages ago. All I would have to do is send you a copy of poison's objectives.
Win by luck, lose by skill.
I would prefer not having players temporarily replaced, if for no other reason, the fact that the substitute has no reason to play well. Even if such a substitute decides to play well, there is no way to make any sort of deal with them that doesn't involve immediately rewarding them. Any deals made could also be broken by the original player when said player returns. For those reasons and probably others, it doesn't seem like it would be a good idea.
There's some negative aspects for the player who is being substituted as well, but since poison offered the suggestion I guess those aren't relevant.
Some suggested alternatives:
1) Leave poison in-game until he returns.
2) Permanently remove poison from the game.
3) Permanently replace poison with another player.
However, if you are going to let someone substitute for or replace poison, I think Tempz is a good choice, so no issues there.
Anyways, those are just my thoughts on it
Lanthanide's, Raitaki's, and TiKel's bills have passed Congress and await Presidential action (SIGN or VETO).
Yr 1 Bills
Quote from Lanthanide''s Bill
+ Environment
- Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
Quote from Raitaki's Bill
+Equality
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
+Economy
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
+ Order
+ Morality
+ Environment
- Economy
- Freedom
- Technology
OlimarandLouie : NO
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : NO
Lanthanide : YES
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
3/7
Quote from FaRTy1billion's Bill
+Morality
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
5/7
Quote from Fire_Kame''s Bill
+Order
+Technology
+Freedom
-Economy
-Morality
-Environment
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : NO
Fire_Kame : YES
TiKels : NO
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
Lanthanide: NO
3/7
Quote from OlimarandLouie's Bill
+Economy
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
FaRTy1billion : YES
payne: NO
5/6
All times are in CST.
Quote from Bill Deadlines
Voting for these players' bills ends on the date and time listed (72 hours after introduction).
Lanthanide Dec 22, 6:39 pm
Raitaki Dec 22 7:17 pm
TiKels Dec 22 7:42 pm
payne Dec 23 12:42 am
Fire_Kame Dec 23 4:02 pm
FaRTy1billion Dec 23 4:07 pm
OlimarandLouie Dec 24 3:54 pm
*indicates exact time was unavailable at time of this post (Due to SEN's "3 hours ago" timestamp), exact time will be determined in the future.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Presidential Action
These bills have passed Congress and await presidential action. The President's acting period for these bills (48 hours after Congressional voting) ends at the date and time listed.
Lanthanide Dec 24, 6:39 pm
Raitaki Dec 24 7:17 pm
TiKels Dec 24 7:42 pm
Quote from Bills Awaiting Override Action
Congress has until the date and time listed to override a presidential veto (24 hours the president's veto). The last votes on the bill will remain standing (you do not need to re-vote).
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Quote from Bills Implemented
Bills that were introduced this year and have been implemented are listed here.
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Win by luck, lose by skill.
Awwwww yeah :
D
"If a topic that clearly interest noone needs to be closed to underline the "we don't want this here" message, is up to debate."
-NudeRaider
Lanthanide's, Raitaki's, and TiKel's bills have been implemented. payne's bill awaits presidential action.
Yr 1 Bills
Quote from Lanthanide''s Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+ Environment
- Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
Quote from Raitaki's Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+Equality
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
IMPLEMENTED
+Economy
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
+ Order
+ Morality
+ Environment
- Economy
- Freedom
- Technology
OlimarandLouie : NO
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : NO
Lanthanide : YES
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
3/7
Quote from FaRTy1billion's Bill
+Morality
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
5/7
Quote from Fire_Kame''s Bill
+Order
+Technology
+Freedom
-Economy
-Morality
-Environment
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : NO
Fire_Kame : YES
TiKels : NO
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
Lanthanide: NO
3/7
Quote from OlimarandLouie's Bill
+Economy
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
FaRTy1billion : YES
payne: NO
5/6
All times are in CST.
Quote from Bill Deadlines
Voting for these players' bills ends on the date and time listed (72 hours after introduction).
Fire_Kame Dec 23 4:02 pm
FaRTy1billion Dec 23 4:07 pm
OlimarandLouie Dec 24 3:54 pm
*indicates exact time was unavailable at time of this post (Due to SEN's "3 hours ago" timestamp), exact time will be determined in the future.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Presidential Action
These bills have passed Congress and await presidential action. The President's acting period for these bills (48 hours after Congressional voting) ends at the date and time listed.
payne Dec 25 12:42 am
Quote from Bills Awaiting Override Action
Congress has until the date and time listed to override a presidential veto (24 hours the president's veto). The last votes on the bill will remain standing (you do not need to re-vote).
-
Quote from Bills Implemented
Bills that were introduced this year and have been implemented are listed here.
Lanthanide's Bill
Raitaki's Bil
TiKel's Bill
Win by luck, lose by skill.
Veto that shit.
"If a topic that clearly interest noone needs to be closed to underline the "we don't want this here" message, is up to debate."
-NudeRaider
Nah, wait a bit first. If Kame's bill comes through, veto that instead ;D
None.
I'm not sure how payne's bill, which got 3/7 votes or 42.85% support meets the criteria set in the rules post for passage:
Passage of a bill requires 50% or more of non-abstain votes to be a "Yea".
None.
Lanthanide, thank you, I didn't even check to see if payne's bill has enough votes. payne's bill has failed. Also, Kame's bill has failed.
Farty's bill awaits presidential action.
Yr 1 Bills
Quote from Lanthanide''s Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+ Environment
- Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
Quote from Raitaki's Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+Equality
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
IMPLEMENTED
+Economy
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
FAILED
+ Order
+ Morality
+ Environment
- Economy
- Freedom
- Technology
OlimarandLouie : NO
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : NO
Lanthanide : YES
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
3/7
Quote from FaRTy1billion's Bill
+Morality
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
5/7
Quote from Fire_Kame''s Bill
FAILED
+Order
+Technology
+Freedom
-Economy
-Morality
-Environment
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : NO
Fire_Kame : YES
TiKels : NO
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
Lanthanide: NO
3/7
Quote from OlimarandLouie's Bill
+Economy
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
FaRTy1billion : YES
payne: NO
5/6
All times are in CST.
Quote from Bill Deadlines
Voting for these players' bills ends on the date and time listed (72 hours after introduction).
OlimarandLouie Dec 24 3:54 pm
*indicates exact time was unavailable at time of this post (Due to SEN's "3 hours ago" timestamp), exact time will be determined in the future.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Presidential Action
These bills have passed Congress and await presidential action. The President's acting period for these bills (48 hours after Congressional voting) ends at the date and time listed.
FaRTy1billion Dec 25 4:07 pm
Quote from Bills Awaiting Override Action
Congress has until the date and time listed to override a presidential veto (24 hours the president's veto). The last votes on the bill will remain standing (you do not need to re-vote).
-
Quote from Bills Implemented
Bills that were introduced this year and have been implemented are listed here.
Lanthanide's Bill
Raitaki's Bil
TiKel's Bill
Win by luck, lose by skill.
I'm not sure how payne's bill, which got 3/7 votes or 42.85% support meets the criteria set in the rules post for passage:
Passage of a bill requires 50% or more of non-abstain votes to be a "Yea".
Damn you! I hoped no one would see that.
Also, let's say the 3 bills get adopted, it means I have THREE times a Minus score in Technology? That sucks. D:
None.
I sign FaRTy1billion's bill.Also, let's say the 3 bills get adopted, it means I have THREE times a Minus score in Technology?
Now it's four times.
You could have regained some of the points by passing your bill, which likely would have happened if you'd gotten more input before submitting it. For your next bill, you may want to also communicate with me beforehand so I can relay to you any concerns from my constituents.
As a side note, I'm wondering if it would be possible to finalize votes? Using a final vote would indicate you do not plan to change it again, although you'd still have the ability to. If a majority of players had their finalized vote on the same decision, the deadline for the bill would be ended prematurely.
I think it would be an effective way to cut some unnecessary delays out, like waiting another day for Olimar's bill when it already seems clear that it will pass.
Yr 1 Bills
Quote from Lanthanide''s Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+ Environment
- Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
Quote from Raitaki's Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+Equality
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
IMPLEMENTED
+Economy
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
FAILED
+ Order
+ Morality
+ Environment
- Economy
- Freedom
- Technology
OlimarandLouie : NO
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : NO
Lanthanide : YES
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
3/7
Quote from FaRTy1billion's Bill
PASSED
+Morality
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
5/7
Quote from Fire_Kame''s Bill
FAILED
+Order
+Technology
+Freedom
-Economy
-Morality
-Environment
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : NO
Fire_Kame : YES
TiKels : NO
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
Lanthanide: NO
3/7
Quote from OlimarandLouie's Bill
+Economy
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
FaRTy1billion : YES
payne: NO
5/6
All times are in CST.
Quote from Bill Deadlines
Voting for these players' bills ends on the date and time listed (72 hours after introduction).
OlimarandLouie Dec 24 3:54 pm
*indicates exact time was unavailable at time of this post (Due to SEN's "3 hours ago" timestamp), exact time will be determined in the future.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Presidential Action
These bills have passed Congress and await presidential action. The President's acting period for these bills (48 hours after Congressional voting) ends at the date and time listed.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Override Action
Congress has until the date and time listed to override a presidential veto (24 hours the president's veto). The last votes on the bill will remain standing (you do not need to re-vote).
-
Quote from Bills Implemented
Bills that were introduced this year and have been implemented are listed here.
Lanthanide's Bill
Raitaki's Bil
TiKel's Bill
FaRTy1billion's Bill
Quote from name:Azrael.Wrath
As a side note, I'm wondering if it would be possible to finalize votes? Using a final vote would indicate you do not plan to change it again, although you'd still have the ability to. If a majority of players had their finalized vote on the same decision, the deadline for the bill would be ended prematurely.
I think it would be an effective way to cut some unnecessary delays out, like waiting another day for Olimar's bill when it already seems clear that it will pass.
Oh, so like if 5 players (50% of 10) finalize YES or NO, the bill would immediately be sent to the President? Sounds like a good idea, does anyone else support this? I'd be willing to implement it unless someone has a reasonable objection.
Also, I think the next year will be shorter than a week... I'm thinking 3-4 days, how does that sound?
Win by luck, lose by skill.
Finalising makes sense to me.
None.
Finalizing sounds good, especially if the weeks are to be shortened.
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I sign OlimarandLouie's bill.Edit: I think 4 days would be a good amount of time for each year.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 26 2011, 5:26 am by Azrael.Wrath.
The year will end tomorrow at 6 pm CST, so get in those last minute bills!
Yr 1 Bills
Quote from Lanthanide''s Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+ Environment
- Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
Quote from Raitaki's Bill
IMPLEMENTED
+Equality
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
IMPLEMENTED
+Economy
-Technology
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
4/6
FAILED
+ Order
+ Morality
+ Environment
- Economy
- Freedom
- Technology
OlimarandLouie : NO
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : NO
Lanthanide : YES
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
3/7
Quote from FaRTy1billion's Bill
PASSED
+Morality
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
Fire_Kame : NO
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
payne : NO
FaRTy1billion : YES
5/7
Quote from Fire_Kame''s Bill
FAILED
+Order
+Technology
+Freedom
-Economy
-Morality
-Environment
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : NO
Fire_Kame : YES
TiKels : NO
payne : YES
FaRTy1billion : NO
Lanthanide: NO
3/7
Quote from OlimarandLouie's Bill
PASSED
+Economy
-Technology
OlimarandLouie : YES
Raitaki : YES
TiKels : YES
Lanthanide : YES
FaRTy1billion : YES
payne: NO
5/6
All times are in CST.
Quote from Bill Deadlines
Voting for these players' bills ends on the date and time listed (72 hours after introduction).
*indicates exact time was unavailable at time of this post (Due to SEN's "3 hours ago" timestamp), exact time will be determined in the future.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Presidential Action
These bills have passed Congress and await presidential action. The President's acting period for these bills (48 hours after Congressional voting) ends at the date and time listed.
Quote from Bills Awaiting Override Action
Congress has until the date and time listed to override a presidential veto (24 hours the president's veto). The last votes on the bill will remain standing (you do not need to re-vote).
-
Quote from Bills Implemented
Bills that were introduced this year and have been implemented are listed here.
Lanthanide's Bill
Raitaki's Bil
TiKel's Bill
FaRTy1billion's Bill
OlimarandLouie's Bill
Next year will be 4 days long, and finalizing is now implemented.
Added to OP
You may "finalize" your vote by writing "I finalize my vote [YES/NO] on [bill name]" (large red text rule). If 50% of Congress finalizes their votes to either YES or NO (as in, a 10-player Congress requires 5 "YES"es or 5 "NO"s), the bill will automatically be sent to the president.
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Dec 27 2011, 5:39 am by rayNimagi.
Win by luck, lose by skill.
OlimarandLouie's bill has died due to inaction by President Azrael.Wrath.
Year 2 has begun! You have until Friday, December 30th at 6:00 pm to introduce new bills.
Current Policies
The bills implemented this year have changed Sen's policies:
Economy +2
Environment +1
Equality +1
Freedom 0
Morality +1
Order 0
Technology -5
Please consult the OP for the most up-to-date list of Sen's policies. This list reflects the state of Sen as of this post.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 27 2011, 5:40 am by rayNimagi.
Win by luck, lose by skill.