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Dec 6 2008, 5:46 pm Biophysicist Post #181



Quote from Brontobyte
Yeah, you caught me. Congratulations! I wasted 2.5 hours of my life yesterday piecing together some bogus clue interpretation just to troll. WOW! Were definitely going to loose with idiots like this on our side.

Either that, or you're just not listening to us because you're stubborn.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 6 2008, 5:55 pm by Dapperdan. Reason: Eliminated Spammy Part



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Dec 6 2008, 6:14 pm Riney Post #182

Thigh high affectionado

Bronto's right

I change my vote to Echo (Not really)



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Dec 6 2008, 7:25 pm DrunkenNoodle Post #183



Meh, I'll vote Echo.



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Dec 6 2008, 7:40 pm Doodan Post #184



Quote from Brontobyte
Quote from name:Shocko
I was asked to shed some light to the obsurd interepretations made by brontobyte.
I only skimmed back as far as page 14 with his compiled boxes and it seems to me that he doesn't have clues against people as such but more he doesn't understand the concept of random. For those who do not understand how SEN Mafia's roles are picked, it's time to educate yourself with the following link:
http://www.random.org/randomness/

I understand completely the concept of randomness. Just because something is random, doesn't mean it can't happen more then once consecutively.
True, but the odds decrease exponentially for another consecutive occurrence. Basically, if someone's been mafia two or more times based on randomness, the odds of them being mafia again are actually worse.



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Dec 6 2008, 8:57 pm NudeRaider Post #185

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

What I find funny is that Bronto seems to honestly think that Mafia can be won on Day 1 with 2.5 hours of intellectual work/interpretation.
Btw. Bronto, have you ever played Lotto? There's also groups that use statistical probabilities to calculate the numbers that have the highest statistical chance to occur. Do these systems make people rich? No. The results are still too inaccurate to reliably make money with it (although I suppose it increases your chances of winning slightly). Guess why the lotto companies get richer and richer.
Please understand that RANDOM IS STILL RANDOM!

Anyways I change my vote to Nerdy - he has at least some solid evidence against him.




Dec 6 2008, 9:31 pm Biophysicist Post #186



I change my vote to GeekyPoopy. (AKA NerdyTerdy.)



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Dec 6 2008, 9:48 pm Fisty Post #187



Quote from Doodan
Quote from Brontobyte
Quote from name:Shocko
I was asked to shed some light to the obsurd interepretations made by brontobyte.
I only skimmed back as far as page 14 with his compiled boxes and it seems to me that he doesn't have clues against people as such but more he doesn't understand the concept of random. For those who do not understand how SEN Mafia's roles are picked, it's time to educate yourself with the following link:
http://www.random.org/randomness/

I understand completely the concept of randomness. Just because something is random, doesn't mean it can't happen more then once consecutively.
True, but the odds decrease exponentially for another consecutive occurrence. Basically, if someone's been mafia two or more times based on randomness, the odds of them being mafia again are actually worse.
To be precise, they are cut in half. So we take 5.33,% and we half it. This gives us 2.665%. And should we look at last game's clues, NOTHING was written so obscurely as what you suggest, Brontobyte.



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Dec 6 2008, 9:55 pm Biophysicist Post #188



Quote from Mini Moose 2707
The game is supposed to be won by clue interpretation.

This isn't clue interpretation, it's... annoying. Let's get back to playing, okay?



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Dec 6 2008, 11:27 pm Ultraviolet Post #189



Hey, I'm not dead yet. I'm just a normal townie, so I guess it's better if you lynch me than a special role (lol@the obvious lack of faith in the town that is demonstrated there).



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Dec 6 2008, 11:50 pm InsolubleFluff Post #190



May someone recap for me the clues against nerdyterdy and those against any others?



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Dec 7 2008, 3:21 am Brontobyte Post #191



Quote from name:Deathman101
I understand completely the concept of randomness. Just because something is random, doesn't mean it can't happen more then once consecutively. True, but the odds decrease exponentially for another consecutive occurrence. Basically, if someone's been mafia two or more times based on randomness, the odds of them being mafia again are actually worse. To be precise, they are cut in half. So we take 5.33,% and we half it. This gives us 2.665%. And should we look at last game's clues, NOTHING was written so obscurely as what you suggest, Brontobyte.

How would your chances decrease? If I flip a coin once and it lands on heads, if I flip it again, there is still a 50% chance it will land on heads, and a 50% chance it will land on tails. It wouldn't decrease to 25% heads and 75% tails. Yeah I understand the fact that you can rely on past experience to help determine the outcome of something. Moose just places everyones name, or even a number (which corresponds to a members name) into a randomizer that dishes out the roles. The randomizer doesn't recognize past experience, as far as I know. Moose could change the outcome at his wil if he feels someone isn't good enough for a role, or if they have had that role too many times or whatever.



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Dec 7 2008, 3:40 am Brontobyte Post #192



Quote from name:Shocko
May someone recap for me the clues against nerdyterdy and those against any others?
Recap of Clues against NerdyTerdy + People who voted for him




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Dec 7 2008, 4:07 am MadZombie Post #193



Quote from Brontobyte

How would your chances decrease? If I flip a coin once and it lands on heads, if I flip it again, there is still a 50% chance it will land on heads, and a 50% chance it will land on tails. It wouldn't decrease to 25% heads and 75% tails. Yeah I understand the fact that you can rely on past experience to help determine the outcome of something. Moose just places everyones name, or even a number (which corresponds to a members name) into a randomizer that dishes out the roles. The randomizer doesn't recognize past experience, as far as I know. Moose could change the outcome at his wil if he feels someone isn't good enough for a role, or if they have had that role too many times or whatever.

Cool. But if you flip a coin you true the chane will always be 50%. But what are the chances of getting heads twice in a row? it kinda changes it when you say it that way. The second way is kinda how the recurring mafia thing going.



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Dec 7 2008, 4:12 am Brontobyte Post #194



Quote from MadZombie
Cool. But if you flip a coin you true the chane will always be 50%. But what are the chances of getting heads twice in a row? it kinda changes it when you say it that way. The second way is kinda how the recurring mafia thing going.

Unless Moose intervenes in some divine way, the randomizer doesn't recognize past experience. It just goes, "Ok, heres the list, let me randomize it." Yeah, I understand when you take it like I'm going to get this role twice in a row, its changes different, but the roles change, game by game, so it wouldn't count.



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Dec 7 2008, 4:15 am MadZombie Post #195



The coin doesn't recognize past experiences either. :c



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Dec 7 2008, 5:12 am Brontobyte Post #196



I did a search using SeN's search function with the key word "crushed" and to my surprise I found this post made by Greo (P). It's from Speed Mafia 1 Night post 2.

Quote from Greo
The Mafia was out for blood. And blood they should get. The full moon illuminated the city once more, and a single lone Mafia stood in the center of town square, spraypainting the black box(1). Once he was finished, he pulled out his desert eagle, and with a grin on his face(2), ran off into the city to start some chaos. The first of his victims was working in a physics lab, which the Mafia had already booby trapped. C4 was planted on strategic locations, and with a single click of a detonator, Oyen, who was busy developing a new kind of spacecraft, was completely and utterly crushed under the weight of the lab(3). The Mafia laughed, and ran off to the next destination.

DarkMarine was already prepared for the night. He had his gauss cannon, standard issue of any marine, and of course, his stim pack. The Mafia was prepared too, and the assassin had spotted him, his gun already peering out from a dark corner. "Bang, you're dead," the Mafia shouted, and DarkMarine quickly turned around, loaded up a stim, and fired like a madman at the Mafia... but he was already behind him. "BOO!" the Mafia bellowed, and with a single click, DarkMarine found himself on the ground with a bullet hole embedded into his skull. "Double kill. Let's go for Mega next," the Mafia said to himself, and headed back to his base of operations.

---

The large black box was still in the town center, and it read in a blood red color, "ThINk ouTsiDE tHe BOx."
Whatever that meant, the townspeople knew that time matters. A hell of a lot.


Clues:
(1) - A Mafia member spraypainting something.
Quote from Mini Moose 2707
One of them had spray painted on the nearest building that read 'This town is ours now.'

(2) - The Mafia members hid among the towns people with happy faces.
Quote from Mini Moose 2707
Then they all went back to their individual homes to pose as townspeople; to hide behind happy faces.

(3) - Dapperdan was crushed similar to the way Oyen was crushed.
Quote from Mini Moose 2707
Dapperdan was crushed and killed...


I change my vote to Greo

Here is the link to the post Greo made in Speed Mafia 1. Post

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 7 2008, 5:34 am by Brontobyte. Reason: added Greo's post



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Dec 7 2008, 5:18 am Vi3t-X Post #197



Can we all just vote Greo already? :bleh:



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Dec 7 2008, 5:22 am MadZombie Post #198



...HELL

I CHANGE MY VOTE TO GREO.



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Dec 7 2008, 5:37 am Brontobyte Post #199



VOTER :: LYNCH CANDIDATE
Greo :: payne
Vi3t-X :: Greo
NudeRaider :: payne
TassadarZeratul :: NerdyTerdy
A_of-s_t :: NerdyTerdy
Doodan :: NerdyTerdy
cheeze :: Greo
Oyen :: payne (3)
Echo :: stickynote
stickynote :: NerdyTerdy
Dark_Marine :: NerdyTerdy
MadZombie :: Greo
DT_Battlekruser :: NerdyTerdy
Zycorax :: NerdyTerdy
Deathman101 :: Brontobyte
Hug a Zergling :: Doodan
l)ark_ssj9kevin :: NerdyTerdy (8)
Brontobyte :: Greo (4)
FlyingHat :: Brontobyte (2)

Current player about to be mother-fucked, NerdyTerdy



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Dec 7 2008, 5:38 am Conspiracy Post #200



Nice waste of time Brontobyte.

You guys were looking to specific. Mini Moose is pretty much telling the story of Mafia 3.

Quote from Mini Moose 2707
...Mini Moose 2707 reclined on the couch and began, "Okay. So I'm not sure how this town originated, but everything was peaceful until last night. Dapperdan was the town's mayor. His house was getting attacked by the mafia. The mafia and Dapperdan's were in a big gunfight, but the mafia had good steady aim and was able to kill all the bodyguards. Dapperdan was kidnapped and tied up. I'm not sure how the mafia got to them, this is just how it started. They were taken into a factory and brought down into the basement. The factory seemed mostly abandoned. The room in the basement where they left the mayor and his bodyguards didn't even have lights. The mafia left and locked the door. They flicked a switch upstairs. The walls began coming together in the room downstairs. Dapperdan was crushed and killed..." Mini Moose 2707 began to trail off here, muttering bizzare manifestations.
...

Dapperdan was the mayor in only ONE mafia. This mafia was none other than Mafia 3: MOAR!

On the mafia list we have:
DT_Battlekruser
EzDay281
ClansAreForGays
Cnl.Fatso

(I dunno about those unbolded ones -.-)

I crossed the names and we have:
DT_Battlekruser
EzDay281

I do like your clues though Brontobyte. I vote Greo



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