Typo. Plus, I was watching Thomas the Tank Engine at that time.

I've actually never bothered yet to look at Latova's source.

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If your just learning a language to impress/outdo your friend try something like Brainfuck.

When I have free time, I think I could have a lot of fun with that

Learning to program/script is hardly about what specific code you use, but rather, developing the mindset to think things out rationally and put little pieces of a puzzle together in your head to tackle a larger problem, and then on towards organize/optimize it in functions, classes, structures, etc. While some languages have advantages over others, mostly depending on what it's used for, the syntax isn't really the issue, outside of getting used to writing code as code (indents, strings, operators, line ends, etc).
I would say go with C++, as it's the most mimicked language and will put you in better habits, as php doesn't require initializing variables and let you be sloppy in a lot of ways.

If you prefer Java, it has most of these aspects, and is a little more transportable between operating systems (C++ is more strongly OS-based since it has to be natively compiled). I don't know why cheeze hates Java so much, it's my primary language right now. But IP's right, learning to program is not about the syntax, it's about turning your ideas into the language of code.

Hmm, it covers functions, object oriented programming(classes), pointers, dynamic memory, loops, I mean, almost every other language is just an upgrade of it making it higher level, it can be both very simple, and very complex, so it's the perfect starter language.

Maybe its because Java is slow? *shrugs*


Uh, Qbasic/Basic/Visual Basic is a better choice to start off Progamming than C++ is.........If you're not looking to program very complex things.

I'd go for C or C++. VB is just horrible.

If you want to make programs I'd suggest C# then move to C++ if you feel like doing so.
If you want to make webpages, PHP is the way to go.

We could have this debate for eons, but Java 6 is not considerably (probably less than 5%) slower outside of Swing. But yes, ultimately C++ will always be a hair faster due to Java's VM.