Hey guys, im new here to SEN .Im sorta new to modding. I recently got into image editing via RetroGrp. I cannot for some reason find any files in StarDat.mpq, where the GRP's for buildings and stuff should be. All I see is about 3000 files called untitled\untitled in stardat.MPQ. I think these are the grps and stuff I am looking for, just WinMPQ cannot read them or something. The only grps I can find are in BROODAT.MPQ where there are the new stuff includied in the expansion set, such as lurkers.

Edit: Fixed that problem with list file
Found out that SCD3 does not work on vista

Still need help on my image errors

Ok, so I took an academy and put a control tower part and a supply depot part

I edited the image using gimp to make it look a little nicer too, using the SC unit pallette

compiled back to grp with SFGRPConv

out it in winmpq under units\terran\academy.grp

MpqDraft'd it

No in game change, the acamey looks normal, help?

And yes, i did check that the grp was changed

Edit 2, I found that Image editing starcraft with vista does not work, cuz I tried it on another comp, and it did

Topic can be closed now

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 25 2008, 12:08 am by Scottp45.

You need a listfile. Were my internet more stable, I'd find one for you but alas, I cannot Googling "stardat.mpq listfile" should find you one pretty quickly. Good luck.

Thanks very much, help is always appreciated , I'll google it, thank you

I believe a list file comes with the modding tool package found on the DLDBD but anyway here it is, just for you.

Thanx

Ok new problemo, I edited an academy, compiled them back to a grp, but when I went to test the mod no change was made to the sprite...help?

I am using RetroGRP, if anyone wants to know...

I *think* its because RetroGRP is so old, or because Starcraft gets angry at me for messing with its files

It could be several reasons but did you make sure you are typing the right path for the grp and not a random one?
What exactly did you do?

If you re open your grp with Retro, do you see your modified files or do you see an unchanged grp?

I'm sure I typed units\terran\academy, I should check with Retro GRP if my image changed lol ><, and YES, I did remove the "x_" in the name...

ok weird, when I go to check if I changed my image the colours are all wierd o.o

Is it cuz I used paint or something?

and it is changed (I think)

I made it have a supply depot part and a control tower part

Edit: Sorry for the long response, I went to watch a movie and went to bed

Edit 2: Tried to invert colours, didnt work

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 22 2008, 7:28 pm by Scottp45.

you need to use starcrafts unit palette and i dont know if you can use paint

all I did was copy n paste some stuff ><, and used some black to spruce it up

I dont have any other image editor other than paint...

Reccomentd me one that I DONT have to pay for?

Google GIMP. And make sure the file has the extension .grp

Yes, you can. You just need a good GRP compiler. *cough* SFGrpConv.

So Retro GRP is out and SFGRPConv is IN?


Oh and an offhand question abour ur downgrading program Farty does it work with vista?

scottie

Edit: Does GIMP support Starcraft pallettes? That way I can make completely custom images without the use of copy n paste

http://www.staredit.net/maplantis/index.php?sid=4019510968;topic=1067 There is a GIMP section around the bottom.

With the proper configurations it should work on Vista.
I remember I somehow made it work on vista. I'll look up into it and tell you later. As to your current problem, yes, make sure it has ".grp" at the end. And the pallete shouldn't be an issue to changes not showing. It should either crash or show up anyway with weird colors.

Also, for SCD3 thingy. If regular installation doesn't work you have to edit the file called SCD.ini
and modify this:
What you do is place the MPQs of the version under the Data folder and then modify the .ini. For example, to test this out I tried with patch 1.07 and patch 1.11b.
I placed both MPQs under the Data folder in SCD3 directory and modified the SCD.ini to this:
Count = X
where X is the number of patches you have.
and then you just add 0=, 1=, 2=, and the patch version/name.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 22 2008, 11:03 pm by Corbo.

I was thinking about just making SCD like VB or something to make people stop crying about it. >.>

lol, it is sorta conufsing >.>...and thanx I have Gimp and it works great.

Edit: Okay, Ima gonna try that with SCD3

Edit 2: Is it normal for Gimp to take 5 minutes to load?

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 23 2008, 3:46 am by Scottp45.

Only the first time. After that it should load faster.

Thanx...now to go make custom graphix, and fix SCD3