The previous Name Glows were always something I liked.

On a sidenote, can we bring back Kiwis? KEHWEH!

Nameglow didn't work except in IE anyway.

Markings are completely unnecessary. But it's not a big deal. If it's done it won't make an inch of difference but it'll at least make a couple of people happy. Hercanic you need to calm down about simple issues.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 18 2008, 12:05 am by Mini Moose 2707. Reason: Testing

Hercanic is simply trying to make SEN more user friendly, more features, and more fun. Sure, he may go a bit overboard, but he has many ideas.

Dear Dapperdan:
Calm down from what?


Dear WoAHorde:
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing thoroughly. =oP

The moderators on the Staff page is correct. It is automated and does not need to be "updated" because it draws directly from the forums themselves. Voyager may have resigned from his job (previously moderating some other forums), but not from his clan or the moderation over the [MM] forum granted to him by virtue of the clan. If anything, the problem is that it lists Clan forum moderators along with the SEN forum moderators. I will try to find a way to code around this.

Unless you are referring to the actual list of staff and not the people listed under the "Moderators" spot. That is another matter entirely. Regardless, all global moderators are listed there.

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Then those who have resigned should probably no longer have moderation power attached to their account. =oP

According to the Staff page, apparently Yoshi is the Supreme Commander of Lulz. Cute, but if the Staff list is to be practical, such jokes only distract. There is no mention of him being an Administrator. Luckily he is an Admin, so it's plain what his position is on the forum thanks to his globe icon. That's the kind of clarity I'm aiming for with moderators, both global and specific, being marked.

A staff list is always good to have, but it is not enough. As I illustrated: "I was having posts edited for a warning that I did not even realize was a real warning."

There's no need for markings, unless you're acting like a muppet, you wont ever need to find out. Also, the only reason Devilesk is saying get to know the moderators / admins is because he's pretty much famous amongst all the staff (in non positive ways !)

Perhaps you misunderstood me. The moderation power attached to his account over the clan forum is given to him by the clan. Voyager did not resign from his clan. Voyager is clearly still in Clan [MM], therefore it is perfectly valid for him to moderate the Clan [MM] forum.
EDIT: Clan moderators are no longer displayed as moderators on the Staff page.

For the record, Yoshi added himself to the staff page when he received his position.

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No.

Even when Voyager left, he was, is and will always be a huge part of our clan. And I've been backed up by all of the members to leave him as a leader in our clan member list.
You want to start telling me how to run a clan now?
Clan leaders on sen get to moderate their own clan forum that's why he's still on the list and in my opinion if he has left, is inactive and has never bothered you and since he's inactive he never will why would you even care about it? I know I don't.

That's still not clear, Moose. Are you talking mechanically, as in by being the head of the clan he automatically receives moderation powers because of how the system is set up? Or is it up to the clan to give or remove moderating status, and out of democratic respect the administration does not intervene?

Either way, when someone officially resigns and leaves, it's usually a good idea to remove moderation rights, at the very least so unaware people don't PM him asking for moderation when he isn't around to even read the message. Are there no other moderators for the [MM] forum?



(EDIT: I added in a quote of the original message I responded to, since Moose subsequently updated it after I posted)

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 18 2008, 2:11 am by Hercanic.

This one. As much as the administration runs SEN, the administration does not run the individual clans. While SEN rules continue to apply in clan forums, their moderators are not selected or removed by administration (other than the clan leader) unless circumstance warrants it. IE, clan forum moderators are not "staff" moderators.
You are out of place to suggest how Clan [MM] should run their clan and select their moderators.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Voyager having moderation powers for the Clan [MM] forum. If I am unaware of a bug that causes the clan forum moderation to confer to him additional power that extends outside of the Clan [MM] forum, please inform me. Otherwise, I will assume that the code grants him power to moderate where he has rights to and that the system is working as intended.

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And me

Dear Corbo:
This is the second time you've come out swinging at me. The first was with the whole Karma misunderstanding. Do you really see me as that antagonistic to project such negative intentions into my words?

I was being general. My meaning was that the automation is made inaccurate when people who've resigned are still left as moderators.


I have done no such thing.


I consider Voyager to be a friend of mine, and respect him as a fellow modder. This is not an attack against him in any way, professionally or personally. I know his leaving was hard, he is a great guy. Maybe he might return one day, and if he does his spot is preserved, right? That's fine. Again, I was being general, and was not aware of how the clan/moderation connection worked. Voyager was just an example, not the point of contention.

As for any reason why it would matter: "...at the very least so unaware people don't PM him asking for moderation when he isn't around to even read the message."

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Dear Mini Moose:
Aside from this being a misunderstanding, you are out of place to deny me the ability to even suggest. Yes, you are an Administrator, and ultimately what you say goes. I am at your mercy in that regard. But if I disagree with you on a fundamental level, I will speak my mind. All you can do is ban me.



Oh, you edited the heck out of your post while I was replying to it. I'm going to add in a quote of what it was when I was writing. You have access to an edit history, correct? If I am inaccurate, feel free to correct the quote using that history.

The green is all new stuff that wasn't there when I started replying.



You also changed the previous one too. Argh!
I don't remember as clearly what was originally in this message, so I can't highlight the changes. =o\

The main problem with the edits is I reply to the original message, you edit it clarifying yourself more, then I post and any confusion expressed in my reply makes me look retarded (because your updated message is now more clear). Or it makes the conversation seem more focused on Voyager when it originally wasn't, reinforcing Corbo's accusations.



Blargh again.

I don't think Corbo is necessarily accusing, he acts like that intentionally. Lighten what he says by like 100% and that is generally what he actually means (He is usually joking trying to give people a hard time.)

The list of moderators accurately reports the forums that each person is moderating. Voyager was removed from all of the forums that he was supposed to be removed from and remained on the forums where he was supposed to remain. The same has been done for every other moderator that has ever quit.
Though I suppose if you had the clarification granted to you by my edits when you were writing this, you would not have made this point.

Two points here. One is that anyone can check the date the moderator was last active when it seems they aren't getting a PM. The other is that using the report function instead of PMs will put someone in contact with all the moderators for the forum (most likely including active ones), as well as GMs and Admins.

You can reload the topic before posting. You can edit your posts after you post that account for my changes. I do not edit with malicious intent - but rather for clarity and in the interest of not prolonging discussion superfluously. I will confess that I sometimes I type faster than I think. Though the message telling the reader that a post has been edited tells them something is up.
Regardless, you have not made any points dependent on my unedited posts, so I see this as rather insignificant. I also do not see any reason to have them included your post at all.

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So you're admitting IE is superior? ;p

Nope, Farty made it work in Fx a while back

No, it just means that a lot of idiots made browser-specific features because they were close-minded, ignorant fools.

LOL, You just called SeN v4 administration idiots for implementing it

And how is bringing new features and opposing to standard boring crap "closed minded"?