Then show some of that respect and don't disagree with me.

It would make waaaay too much elitism to those who do not deserve it that's why and Elitism is sooo sen v4

Moderator marking aside, if a moderator is elitist he should most likely not be a moderator either way.

You're, like, elitist too.

http://www.staredit.net/topic/3563/

http://www.staredit.net/topic/3496/

How about the little mineral or vespene gas icon for displaying your resource count?

EDIT:
Mineral:

Gas:

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jun 30 2008, 8:37 am by Deathman101.

Dear Razorsnail:
And those show elitism how?

Noobs, get to know who the mods are and then there's no problem. SEN isn't some place with a million cops who are a bunch of strangers.

However it would be cool if you brought back the spinners

Devilesk, how does getting to know who the mods are help when new ones are promoted or demoted? What about new users, or people who've come back from long absences? Markings are simple and effective, and desperately needed.

A tiny marine or wraith image prefix might be cool for moderators to go along with the globe icon administrators have. Or maybe an interceptor, or some map doodad. Or maybe the Lockdown spell effect from a Ghost (actually, that might be badass as a replacement for the locked icon on threads). Maybe the Defense Matrix or one of the blue stars in a Scanner Sweep might work. Or what about the Psi Disruptor/Emitter, Data Disc, or Uraj/Khalis/Khaydarin Crystal powerup? Plenty of possibilities.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Jul 17 2008, 8:13 pm by Hercanic.

They aren't desperately needed at all.

In my decade of forum administration experience, I can tell you that yes, it is needed. There is no purpose in concealing who moderators are, and it only detracts from their effectiveness. When it is plain that someone is a moderator, people listen. If people misinterprete them as just another forum user, people see no obligation to heed their words. A lot of potential problems are avoided with a simple tag.


You completely ignored my preceding reasons. When you consistently don't back up your assertions, always playing the "no-man" (disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing), you're essentially trolling.

Mountains out of molehills.

Re-add the moderator markings plz. It is a pain to look at the category each time you want to see who the moderators are...

Bolded names and/or Underlines may resolve this.

Wait, so you mean it's easier for you to go through searching in every single forum/post and probably find a moderator that posted there rather then, if you wanted to, look at every single moderator in a just one click away page?

That's odd.

http://www.staredit.net/?p=staff

Remove name colour and set it apart for groups/staff/etc. Re add nameglow, etc.

Dear Devilesk:
It is unreasonable to expect thousands of users, some of whom only casually visit this forum, to memorize and remember a list of moderators when a special tag that can be consistently found on any and every other forum suffices. That list has changed a number of times, too, such as Syphon being demoted or Esponeo being promoted and then demoted. Are these changes publicly announced as news on the main site? No, they often transpire in an obscure thread that the majority of the population are unlikely to read. It is a recipe for confusion, even the potential for abuse (an angry ex-moderator could still make demands or threats against people unaware of his now-unofficial nature).

I have cited real occurrences of problems the lack of mod tags has caused throughout this thread. I have backed up my statements with numerous reasons and can speak from personal experience as an administrator. You have not yet refuted any of those statements with your own explained reasons, nor provided a single strong reason why moderators should not have tags. All you have contributed is an unreasonable expectation, which compounded by your 'noobs' insult is nothing more than elitism. The spinners, though, are great. Kudos. Aside from that, you have regressed into single sentence, 4-6 word responses that are unsupported and disruptive in nature.

Until you bring more to the table, I can only interpret your actions as trolling. I will not feed that behavior. Support your assertions. I will not respond to any further messages here from you until you do that. I PMed you once about this before, now I am making it clear publicly.

Thank you, and good day.

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Dear everyone:
I'm surprised no one has pointed to this or this (using the group dropdown for moderators). The memberlist sorting is flawed, though, as it only displays global moderators and not forum-specific moderators. The Staff list is also flawed, as it isn't updated. Voyager left, for instance.

Several times I've looked for exactly these sort of listings and always came up empty-handed. They are obscure to find, thus the average user is unlikely to stumble across them to learn who his moderators are. The fact that no dissenters of the tag idea have used these in their arguments indicates to me that they themselves were not aware of the lists, furthering my point about their obscurity.

EDIT: Lol, I see while I was writing, Moose posted the staff list. Still, my points stand (especially the flaws), as Moose is an admin and should know the entire workings of this forum, whereas normal members will not.

I can say that it's frustrating to not know when someone posting is a moderator. Who is/isn't a moderator can change at anytime and I'd rather not have to look at the staff page every week or so to keep myself updated on who the current moderators are. Honestly, before this topic I never knew that KillerKow and Corbo were moderators... (sorry guys lol). It would be much easier to just have a symbol next to their name when posting like the admins already have. Also, bring the elitism back. For support communities such as this one, it's helpful to know who trusted/longtime members are. Back in v4, the gold/green names would allow newbies to know who's experienced and been at the site for a while.

Basically I'm in agreement with Hercanic.

Casual members don't need to know who the mods are.

Markings are irrelevant to this. Nobody should be getting away with making such threats regardless of whether or not they have credibility showing they can make good on them.

I do, however, agree that markings are necessary. Since IP is "active" again, I will discuss it with him.

You should have seen my PM box when Pyro-Fire was let go; wow was that kid psycho. I still have a screenshot of one of his messages. I took it because I intended to show that the curse filter didn't work on PM titles, just the message contents. Then SEN went down for like 6 months or however long that was. =oP

In any case, I mean threats like "do this or you'll be banned/fined", not "do this or I'll kill you". =o) Now, the reverse is also true. Getting a PM from a moderator when you don't know that they're a moderator. I've experienced this here, and it affected how I perceived their message.

Seems kind of demanding if from a normal poster, doesn't it?


Around this point I noticed some of my posts had been edited, the "Dear [Name]" removed, with the explanation saying that I'd been warned. It was only then that it was apparent that he was a moderator. I was having posts edited for a warning that I did not even realize was a real warning.




That's when I learned I could turn off minerals, so that's exactly what I did.