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Mar 25 2008, 5:59 am
By: Ryan  

Mar 25 2008, 5:59 am Ryan Post #1



Hahah, I've lured you into my trap. Now you must read because you're curious as to what I really need help with!

Anywho...

Hi.
Is there any way to force or trick a computer into building a building? I don't know anything about AIs, and I could use some help. Maybe it's not even possible, but thanks in advance.




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Mar 25 2008, 6:04 am candle12345 Post #2



The AI in SC is so vague and hard to force into anything it's not funny.
It's about as easy to make them do something as it is to get a fat guy to do aerobics in public.

Also, when you finally think you've got it, they'll just freeze.



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Mar 25 2008, 6:06 am Ryan Post #3



So are you trying to say it's not possible or what?



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Mar 25 2008, 6:24 am Saucon Post #4



its possible, but 99% more likley that it wont happen.

even though i know little about AI i felt i had to post because ryan got me with his "help" trap :omfg:



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Mar 25 2008, 1:00 pm The_Underscore Post #5



the ai is like a cat. it is fully capable of doing stuff, its just that it does it when it wants to, not when you want it to.

it'd be better to just use create unit that wait for the ai



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Mar 25 2008, 1:06 pm lil-Inferno Post #6

Just here for the pie

AI will just build a base that would be suitable for melee, they won't make only marines if like, you edited marine stats to 9999+ because they're made to have Top V Bottom AI. You could trick it into making a certain building if they had all the requirements AND they can only build that one building, but you can't tell them where to build it.




Mar 25 2008, 1:11 pm candle12345 Post #7



You can have a sort of build effect.

Condition
ConstructFactory is set

Action:
Order 1 SCV at anywhere move to Build

Condition:
Player brings 1 SCV to Build
Player brings at most 0 DT to Build
Player brings at most 0 Buildings to Build

Action:
Create 1 DT at Build [hostle and vissed to computer, so you get building effects.]
Wait 2000 ms
Remove all units at Build
Create Factory at Build
create 1 SCV at Build
clear ConstructFactory

OPTIONAL AUTOMATIC REBUILD
Conditions:
Player brings at most 0 units to Build

Actions:
Set switch ConstructFactory
OPTIONAL AUTOMATIC REBUILD

Simply set factorygone when you want it to build the factory.
It's not AI, but it's the best we can do.

Okay, I've tried it out, I'm having trouble with the sparks.
Everything else works, except the sparks.
I think I've got it though.

EDIT:
Nope, here's the map, I can't be bothered adding sparks, it works perfectly as it is.

Attachments:
Build.scm
Hits: 1 Size: 51.4kb

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Mar 25 2008, 1:56 pm by candle12345.



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Mar 25 2008, 1:31 pm JamaL Post #8



It is, as previously stated, possible, but very hard to perfect.

Explain why you need this feature, and we may be able to supply you with an alternative option that works just as well, if not better.



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Mar 25 2008, 4:05 pm Ryan Post #9



So I can have a cutscene in a map where the computer is building a building.
The thing is, is that I don't want an alternative. I want to actually have the computer build it, not just make it look like it built it.




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Mar 25 2008, 4:12 pm candle12345 Post #10



Uhh. I spose you could try the disable-sprite method, which makes it appear that a building is being built. The thing is, I've never done it, and I don't know if it's posssible via triggers, you've exhausted my knowledge, =/ go ask tux or someone.



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Mar 26 2008, 12:10 am Falkoner Post #11



It's not possible by triggers, but I don't think that's what he wants, since it will just look like a half-built building just sitting there, you can't get the SCV to look like it's building.



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Mar 26 2008, 1:21 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #12

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You could order it along the bottom... Can you walk through the disabled doodad building sprites? I've never tried. :P
Also if you are tricky you may be able to force it to walk over the building to more look like it's building if you don't plan on showing it for very long.



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