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SEN Mafia VI: Mindfuck
Feb 19 2008, 6:54 pm
By: Moose
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Feb 27 2008, 11:50 pm Greo Post #361



Quote from WoAHorde
Nuderaider is more likely to be Mafia than Dapperdan.

Not really. We all have the same chance of being Mafia as anyone else.



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Feb 27 2008, 11:51 pm WoAHorde Post #362



You fail at number theory and how role picking is done.



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Feb 27 2008, 11:53 pm Greo Post #363



Quote from WoAHorde
You fail at number theory and how role picking is done.

Nah. Random numbers pwn you in the face.

We all have the same chance of being Mafia, which is approx a 5/31 chance (5 used because that's the usual number of mafia). Gtfo.



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Feb 27 2008, 11:56 pm Vi3t-X Post #364



Alright then, now that everything is getting screwed over and their are election campaigns going back and forth. I change my vote to NULL. As soon as someone advertises a good opinion that reflects the goodness and well being of the entire community (minus mafia), I will support their cause. Go on then... advertise... I just can't take this crap anymore.



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Feb 28 2008, 12:00 am Doodan Post #365



I vote dapperdan 4 mayor



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Feb 28 2008, 12:07 am Hynk Post #366



I've done a little digging with the numbers thing. Although this may be extremely far fetched, it's certainly possible.
Now, it maybe correct that the sum of the mafia's member ids equals 783.
863 - 783 = 80, which is EcHo.

Now this may be completely coincidental, but topic 863 in Maplantis is a mafia game, started by ToA.
http://www.maplantis.org/index.php?topic=863

EcHo on Maplantis has the member ID 73.
Member ID 73 is CAFG on SEN.
CAFG was #15 on the Maplantis Mafia game (topic 863)
And #15 here is JaFF.

A little random, but possible.




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Feb 28 2008, 12:10 am NudeRaider Post #367

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Quote from Doktor Shotgun
A little analysis:

Quote from Moose!
MAFIA - They've invaded the town, and they each kill someone every night. They may or may not know the identity of other mafia, thus they may not all be on the same side.

Each mafia group may collectively use the following abilities once per night:

Each mafia group suggests that there are multiple groups. It also suggests that the groups know their own members.

Therefore, the 5-mafia premise seems invalid.

I'm assuming a lot of things here, but I'm guessing there are six Mafia. (Two groups of three).

Either way, I think Nude or someone who's more pwnage than I am should post combination lists for 4 mafia and six mafia.

Multiple groups wouldn't work for under four and more than six is excessive.

Also, the first night's kills will be only Mafia kills (no Saint).

Therefore, the probability is that the first nights kills will consist mainly or entirely of town-aligned roles, as the Mafia have no clue as to the identity of the opposing side.
That's pretty much the way I see it. I already tried these (4,5 and 6 Mafias) combinations and posted the number of different mafia combinations possible (24, 84 and 265). Imo those are not particularly useful (especially the 265 combos) so I spared you the result. But if you want, here's the result for 4 members:

Mafia Combinations, 4 Members:
#1
Hynk, Doktor Shotgun, JaFF, Crimson Magnum, Loveless
#2
Hynk, Loveless, A_of-s_t, Crimson Magnum, Loveless
#3
Hynk, A_of-s_t, Killer_Kow, Doodle77, Loveless
#4
Hynk, A_of-s_t, DT_Battlekruser, Dapperdan, Loveless
#5
Hynk, JaFF, Dapperdan, Vi3t-X, Loveless
#6
Doktor Shotgun, ihjel, A_of-s_t, cheeze, Loveless
#7
Doktor Shotgun, JordanN, Killer_Kow, Doodan, Loveless
#8
Doktor Shotgun, A_of-s_t, JaFF, Greo, Loveless
#9
ihjel, FatalException, Doodle77, isolatedpurity, Loveless
#10
ihjel, Dark_Marine_123, JaFF, WoAHorde, Loveless
#11
ihjel, Zycorax, Dapperdan, Doodle77, Loveless
#12
NerdyTerdy, FatalException, DT_Battlekruser, cheeze, Loveless
#13
NerdyTerdy, JordanN, Darkling, Heegu, Loveless
#14
NerdyTerdy, Dark_Marine_123, Loveless, isolatedpurity, Loveless
#15
NerdyTerdy, WoAHorde, Zycorax, Paravin, Loveless
#16
FatalException, Dark_Marine_123, EzDay281, isolatedpurity, Loveless
#17
FatalException, A_of-s_t, Darkling, cheeze, Loveless
#18
JordanN, Doodan, Paravin, Vi3t-X, Loveless
#19
Dark_Marine_123, EzDay281, Zycorax, Dapperdan, Loveless
#20
Killer_Kow, cheeze, Zycorax, Greo, Loveless
#21
Darkling, Crimson Magnum, Doodle77, Greo, Loveless
#22
Darkling, EzDay281, Zycorax, l)ark_ssj9kevin, Loveless
#23
Heegu, l)ark_ssj9kevin, Doodan, Vi3t-X, Loveless
#24
EzDay281, l)ark_ssj9kevin, Doodan, Doodle77, Loveless

% Mafia probability:
NudeRaider = 0%
Hynk = 20,833%
Doktor Shotgun = 16,667%
ihjel = 16,667%
NerdyTerdy = 16,667%
chui = 0%
FatalException = 16,667%
JordanN = 12,500%
Dark_Marine_123 = 16,667%
Loveless = 8,333%
A_of-s_t = 25,000%
Killer_Kow = 12,500%
Darkling = 16,667%
lil-Inferno = 0%
JaFF = 16,667%
DT_Battlekruser = 8,333%
Crimson Magnum = 12,500%
Heegu = 8,333%
cheeze = 16,667%
EzDay281 = 16,667%
WoAHorde = 8,333%
Zycorax = 20,833%
l)ark_ssj9kevin = 12,500%
Doodan = 16,667%
Dapperdan = 16,667%
Doodle77 = 20,833%
Paravin = 8,333%
isolatedpurity = 12,500%
Vi3t-X = 12,500%
Greo = 12,500%


If you need it I will PM you all combos for 6 members too.




Feb 28 2008, 12:16 am WoAHorde Post #368



It's more plausible that there are two Mafia teams, not one. This is a MINDFUCK, not a standard game.



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Feb 28 2008, 12:18 am Moose Post #369

We live in a society.

Paravin. :: NudeRaider
isolatedpurity :: NudeRaider
Zycorax :: Dapperdan
JaFF :: Dapperdan
JordanN :: NudeRaider
Loveless :: Dapperdan
Greo :: NudeRaider
A_of-s_t :: WoAHorde
cheeze :: NudeRaider
l)ark_ssj9kevin :: WoAHorde
// 10
Dapperdan :: NerdyTerdy
Darkling :: NerdyTerdy
EzDay281 :: NudeRaider (6)
Dark_Marine_123 :: NerdyTerdy (3)
Heegu :: Dapperdan
NudeRaider :: chuiu
DTBK :: chuiu (2)
lil-inferno :: Dapperdan
WoAHorde :: Dapperdan
NerdyTerdy :: Dapperdan
// 20
Doodan :: Dapperdan (8)

Abstain: Hynk (I'm assuming you abstained based on your post), Vi3t-X

21 of 30 votes are in.

Day end: < 48 hours.




Feb 28 2008, 12:20 am Dapperdan Post #370



Vote Count

Paravin. :: NudeRaider
isolatedpurity :: NudeRaider
Zycorax :: Dapperdan
JaFF :: Dapperdan
JordanN :: NudeRaider
Loveless :: Dapperdan
Greo :: NudeRaider
A_of-s_t :: WoAHorde
cheeze :: NudeRaider
l)ark_ssj9kevin :: WoAHorde (2)
// 10
Darkling :: NerdyTerdy
EzDay281 :: NudeRaider (6)
Dark_Marine_123 :: NerdyTerdy (2)
Heegu :: Dapperdan
NudeRaider :: chui
DT_Battlekruser :: chui (2)
lil-inferno :: Dapperdan
WoAHorde :: Dapperdan
NerdyTerdy :: Dapperdan
Doodan :: Dapperdan (8)
// 20

20 of 30 votes are in.

I abstain my vote now.

This is to cross-check with moose's count. (I did it before realizing moose already posted his)



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Feb 28 2008, 12:21 am Greo Post #371



Hmm, NudeRaider or Dapper? Which one is the least of two evils? Which one is a Mafia, if not both or neither?
Oh well. Maybe another vote on Nude could change everything :P :mudkip:



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Feb 28 2008, 12:36 am Vi3t-X Post #372



Quote from Hynk
I've done a little digging with the numbers thing. Although this may be extremely far fetched, it's certainly possible. Now, it maybe correct that the sum of the mafia's member ids equals 783. 863 - 783 = 80, which is EcHo. Now this may be completely coincidental, but topic 863 in Maplantis is a mafia game, started by ToA. EcHo on Maplantis has the member ID http://www.maplantis.org/index.php?member=7373. Member ID 73 is CAFG on SEN. CAFG was #15 on the Maplantis Mafia game (topic 863) And #15 here is JaFF. A little random, but possible.

Your idea is quite possible, we shall take this into consideration...



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Feb 28 2008, 1:02 am Hynk Post #373



Quote from Mini Moose
Abstain: Hynk (I'm assuming you abstained based on your post)
Yes, I abstain my vote.



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Feb 28 2008, 1:40 am l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #374

Just here for the activity... well not really

Epic Mindfuck Action; I abstain and I will lead an Impreachon when we elect someone.



guy lifting weight (animated smiley):

O-IC
OI-C

"Oh, I see it"


Feb 28 2008, 1:48 am Forsaken Archer Post #375



How are we positive that Dan isn't mafia?



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Feb 28 2008, 2:13 am Greo Post #376



Quote from isolatedpurity
How are we positive that Dan isn't mafia?
We aren't.



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Feb 28 2008, 2:16 am Ultraviolet Post #377



We aren't positive about anyone. That's part of the game ;)




Feb 28 2008, 2:16 am WoAHorde Post #378



He was Mafia last game, thus the odds are almost zero.



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Feb 28 2008, 2:21 am Greo Post #379



Quote from WoAHorde
He was Mafia last game, thus the odds are almost zero.

HEY GUYS I WAS TOWNIE FOR THE PAST 5929834 GAMES! I MUST HAVE THE HIGHEST CHANCE EVAR TO BE MAFIA!



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Feb 28 2008, 2:26 am Forsaken Archer Post #380



Quote from WoAHorde
He was Mafia last game, thus the odds are almost zero.
No, that's not how odds work ;o



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