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E3 '10 thread
Jun 15 2010, 11:27 am
By: MadZombie
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Jun 16 2010, 10:02 pm RIVE Post #21

Just Here For The Pie

Quote from Corbo
I looks like complete garbage like most of the wii games look. It looks so slow and when I saw the trailer I was like... wut? No plot whatsoever, gameplay wasn't at all insteresting, it looked dull and slow like I said before + plastic graphics that looked even worse than windwaker, at least windwaker WAS supposed to be cartoony. There was nothing new, the only thing new was the name.


I did not see a problem with it. It looks like a Zelda game should look. You have to remember that Nintendo games have always looked like cartoons because they target to an E rating. I am not sure if you played Twilight Princess and now expect future titles to be just as dark and gloomy, but that is not how artists work. A creator is free to explore different terrains, and then revert back to his old styles at any time. Like every new Zelda game, there seems to be a few new gadgets added into the mix that should prove to mix up the gameplay. As for the plot, are you honestly asking what the storyline is in a Legend Of Zelda game? Really?... Really?



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Jun 16 2010, 10:17 pm BeDazed Post #22



Golden Sun will be the best...



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Jun 17 2010, 1:35 am MadZombie Post #23



I think you are missing what Corbo is trying to say. I mean for one if you can say:
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are you honestly asking what the storyline is in a Legend Of Zelda game? Really?... Really?
Then pretty much the same plotline == no plotline. Really.

I thought Twilight princess was going to be the shit. I thought it was going to be a gritty sandbox game with a ton more action. But no. It's the same old hack and slash (almost button smash) with the puzzles (Going from point A to point B to find a key for A only to have to go to point B to go to point C then back to A and pretty much being an errand boy). It's like they are constatly trying to get the newest generation out hooked on Zelda which is cool when they are that young but they don't really bring anything new to the table for the old fanbase. imo seems like they buy the games out of nostalgia and thats it.

tl;dr Zelda hasn't progressed in a long time imo.



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Jun 17 2010, 1:47 am ShredderIV Post #24



Quote from MadZombie
I think you are missing what Corbo is trying to say. I mean for one if you can say:
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are you honestly asking what the storyline is in a Legend Of Zelda game? Really?... Really?
Then pretty much the same plotline == no plotline. Really.

I thought Twilight princess was going to be the shit. I thought it was going to be a gritty sandbox game with a ton more action. But no. It's the same old hack and slash (almost button smash) with the puzzles (Going from point A to point B to find a key for A only to have to go to point B to go to point C then back to A and pretty much being an errand boy). It's like they are constatly trying to get the newest generation out hooked on Zelda which is cool when they are that young but they don't really bring anything new to the table for the old fanbase. imo seems like they buy the games out of nostalgia and thats it.

tl;dr Zelda hasn't progressed in a long time imo.
But that gameplay is what has people like myself going back to zelda.

The only disappointment I have had with the most recent zelda games s the length. Most of the reason I like OOT was the fact that it took FOREVER to complete, mostly because you had to go through 12 dungeons in addition to the extra puzzles you had to do outside of the temples and such. TP had, IIRC, something like 5 or 6 dungeons, correct me if I'm wrong.

The fetching of items thing in zelda is what I personally love about it. Making a zelda game a sandbox roaming game would cause it to cease to be a zelda game. They also at least int he last zelda game made it a lot less "hack and slash" with the introduction of the combos. There also arent that many enemies in zelda game if you havent realized. Hopefully the new game will add more to the combat system with the whole wii motion plus added in.

In response to your TL;DR, yes it hasnt progressed significantly, but if it did, it would no longer be a zelda game. There are also a lot of other franchises that have the same fate. Look at the metriod games. Look at most other FPS's. the fact is, there arent many games out there anymore that follow that way that zelda plays. In a way, zelda is one of the most "original" games out there now.



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Jun 17 2010, 2:37 am Corbo Post #25

ALL PRAISE YOUR SUPREME LORD CORBO

I'm not bashing the previous storylines, I'm saying that this demo doesn't show anything innovative whatsoever.
And yes, I hate Nintendo for completely ruinning their good franchises.

I also agree on the length comment. TP could easily be rushed in a day.



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Jun 17 2010, 2:43 am Newb Post #26



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The only disappointment I have had with the most recent zelda games s the length. Most of the reason I like OOT was the fact that it took FOREVER to complete, mostly because you had to go through 12 dungeons in addition to the extra puzzles you had to do outside of the temples and such. TP had, IIRC, something like 5 or 6 dungeons, correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope. You're absolutely correct.
The game was a real adventure, not, here's a few new dungeons have fun with them.
Windwaker was more fun, but shorter.

In OOT and Windwaker you find yourself coming back quite often to old places you've visited, which for some reason is fun.( I don't know how to explain why )



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Jun 17 2010, 3:06 am Tempz Post #27



Infamous 2...
Dead Space 2
Wow Expansion Cataclysm
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Gears of war 3
Portal 2
Cod Blk Ops

http://www.e3expo.com/



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Jun 17 2010, 4:07 am Sacrieur Post #28

Still Napping

LoZ not making any progress? Bull. Shit.

OoT -> MM -> WW -> TP

That's some pretty incredible jumps, they've experimented with time, a huge world, and outside adventures in TP. Yes, it didn't have as many dungeons as OoT, but god damn I loved playing through TP more than OoT. In fact, it took me 50 hours to beat TP, and only like 20 to beat OoT. It's just funny because everyone thought OoT was really cool so that when something better comes out (WW + TP) everyone compares it to this last game as a golden standard. Someone said before me something about it being a proper successor to OoT, which is a joke, I don't want another OoT, I would rather have another TP. And I loved TP's plot and art style. Also, lol if you thought it was gritty. Vampire Bloodlines is dirty and gritty, not TP.

I like how you're all making judgments on a game that you've only seen visuals of - and virtually nothing else. It does look like WW met TP though. This can be deceiving however. Remember when Nintendo showed off WW and everyone thought it would blow... And then didn't? Yeah. Same thing here. Also, I don't even know if this is real. Nintendo has pulled some tricks in the past *cough* 2000 Spaceworld demo */cough*.



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Jun 17 2010, 4:38 am RIVE Post #29

Just Here For The Pie

Sacrieur is right guys, we cannot judge the game by the teaser here. That is just ignorant.

Besides, no one is going to make you play these new titles, and nothing is stopping you from plugging in your old systems and playing what you love. That is unless you sold what you loved for a faction of what you paid for it, and yet are still trying to defend it like some kind of crazy gaming hypocrite.



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Jun 17 2010, 4:59 am KrayZee Post #30



The developer of Medal of Honor believes the game will discourage camping and ask players to always be on the move. Something Call of Duty will never accomplish.



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Jun 17 2010, 5:55 am The Starport Post #31



New LoZ is to TP as Mario Galaxies is to Mario Sunshine. More fruity, introduction of an 'open space' gimmick, and acting as a come back after a quasi-decent prequel.



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Jun 17 2010, 6:42 am Demented Shaman Post #32



I don't like that analogy. Super Mario Galaxy was awesome.



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Jun 17 2010, 7:00 am The Starport Post #33



Then you misunderstood me?



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Jun 17 2010, 7:46 am Demented Shaman Post #34



No, because Super Mario Galaxy isn't fruity and the space isn't gimmicky.



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Jun 17 2010, 8:03 am The Starport Post #35



Check your dictionary definitions for 'gimmick' and 'fruity' again. Try to pick the ones that are most consistent with the analogy.



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Jun 17 2010, 8:24 am Demented Shaman Post #36



Oh, you got me. I don't know why you had to make your analogy so fruity and gimmicky.



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Jun 21 2010, 4:56 am The Starport Post #37



'cause I'm as awesome as Nintendo?






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Jun 21 2010, 6:15 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #38

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I liked Twilight Princess a lot ... My friend said he even liked it more than OoT, but I said "Right now I do just because I've played through OoT so much and this has novelty ... but when I first played OoT, I definitely liked it a lot more."

I doubt any of the 3D Zelda games can beat OoT (2D ones are totally different, imo. I have trouble getting into them).
The new Zelda video just looks like "Omg we're Zelda! Woo woo! *link jumps off a cliff*" ... I sure hope it's better than that.
OoT also had a couple side-dungeons (dunno if you counted those .. you probably did, that 12 is a big number) that made it fun ... "Wait, you can't go here. You need the lense of truth!".



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Jun 21 2010, 6:53 am Corbo Post #39

ALL PRAISE YOUR SUPREME LORD CORBO

Quote from Sacrieur
I like how you're all making judgments on a game that you've only seen visuals of - and virtually nothing else. It does look like WW met TP though. This can be deceiving however. Remember when Nintendo showed off WW and everyone thought it would blow... And then didn't? Yeah. Same thing here. Also, I don't even know if this is real. Nintendo has pulled some tricks in the past *cough* 2000 Spaceworld demo */cough*.

WW blows.

And only seen visuals? I've seen Miyamoto play it :hurr:
Watch the retarded controllers make an incredibly slow zelda!

My favourite moment is
"It's not working because the only way to defeat it is cutting in the same direction the mouth is going"
*Miyamoto slashes horizontally*
*Link cuts vertically*
...

Several other moments are epic, he usually slashes vertically upwards and link does magikz.
It looked like a joke. I wanna play real games not play games for real...



fuck you all

Jun 21 2010, 7:31 am Syphon Post #40



Quote from O)FaRTy1billion[MM]
I doubt any of the 3D Zelda games can beat OoT (2D ones are totally different, imo. I have trouble getting into them).

Majora's Mask > Ocarina of Time.

Quote from Corbo
And only seen visuals? I've seen Miyamoto play it :hurr:
Watch the retarded controllers make an incredibly slow zelda!

My favourite moment is
"It's not working because the only way to defeat it is cutting in the same direction the mouth is going"
*Miyamoto slashes horizontally*
*Link cuts vertically*
...

Several other moments are epic, he usually slashes vertically upwards and link does magikz.
It looked like a joke. I wanna play real games not play games for real...

Miyamoto had technical problems on stage. Accourding to many game journalists that demoed it, it controls beautifully.

For the record, I love the art style. Every frame looks like an oil painting. It's less colourful and cartoony than Ocarina of Time. :/



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