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Temple Siege v1
Jul 10 2008, 8:31 am
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Dec 5 2008, 3:47 am Riney Post #981

Thigh high affectionado

Quote from Mini Moose 2707
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Invinc for heroes at temple heal.
Counteroffer: You don't gain experience while in the heal.

Why would it need any more countering. Enemy spawns would open fire on the temple instead of the heroes ;o



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Dec 5 2008, 4:21 am Moose Post #982

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/counteroffer

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coun⋅ter⋅of⋅fer
   /ˌkaʊntərˈɔfər, -ˈɒfər, ˈkaʊntərˌɔfər, -ˌɒfər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [koun-ter-aw-fer, -of-er, koun-ter-aw-fer, -of-er] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
an offer or proposal made to offset or substitute for an earlier offer made by another.





Dec 5 2008, 5:36 am ClansAreForGays Post #983



Quote from name:FaZ-
Even if he can't, dark swarm on the temple+consume is effectively a strategy ender.
Ah there we go. I was reading your response and caught comprehend for the life of me why u thought summiner would be gg in that situation. All you need to know is dark swarm has NO effect on buildings.




Dec 5 2008, 6:18 am Decency Post #984



Wow, I swear I've seen pro Terrans back off all the time against a swarmed expo with no support troops. That really surprised me, I just went and tested it. =o

Either way though, if what I said with plague was true, he'll be the only class that can absorb damage, and hydras compared to any other spawns are just so powerful.



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Dec 5 2008, 7:56 am UnholyUrine Post #985



Hydras being over-buffed is probably correct...
don't forget the HP increase of the spawns, and that hydras are ranged.
and we might as well add a final spawn after hydra, probably goliaths...
And we should make it require 4 civs to upgrade spawn =o.. that'd probably even things out..



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Dec 5 2008, 8:24 am Riney Post #986

Thigh high affectionado

Sounds about right, if your enemies pick sin, dm, and mech, theres a pretty good chance if you upped spawns all the way you'll be on top of them by the time they have enough mana to spam l4.

Worked for me and my bro :D



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Dec 5 2008, 5:42 pm DaltonSerdynski Post #987



Just a thought did anyone think about a random beacon? like random heros also a new challenge why not make a random upgrade status where you upgrade spells like it says one civ goes to spells. and one goes to spanw upgrade or so on. I think that would be sweet



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Dec 5 2008, 8:08 pm ClansAreForGays Post #988



In the wake of the arguable "invinc heroes at heal" failure, I won't be ashamed to admit defeat and give up. The sooner we accept the fact that spawns will be nothing more than food, the better. Is it really so bad? Is the game still fun? Have we enjoyed the challenge of just figuring out ways to get the most out of our meals?


What's so problematic is the uniquely thin line between spawns being total rape and total feed.
Every other problem has really just had a band-aid put on it to stop the bleeding, but spawns(as I've said before) will require a total re-imagining of the game. And plan plan to balance spawns that can be fit into a few lines(make this that, and that this) is doomed to fail.




Dec 5 2008, 8:39 pm Decency Post #989



[start master plan]
Increase spawn life and damage, besides hydra. Summoner's lings need to be weaker, lowered upgrades perhaps with higher start damage. Spawn less of them.
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Dec 5 2008, 10:07 pm Moose Post #990

We live in a society.

OK, as far as I know, the current 1.4M is going to be the tournament version. Then my real experiementation with the map starts. (and yes, I'll rename it)

- The Temples have 50000 HP and 25 armor.
- The Gates now have 9000 HP and 20 armor.
- Fixed Kill Score to XP disparities between the teams.
- Changed the max XP cap to apply to units giving over 600 kill score. This means all heroes and upper spawns and such giving a ton of kill score will be worth a max of 16 per kill.
- Slightly enlarged South team's base. (fixed some pathing AI problems... and because it was way smaller than North team's.)
- Broodlings have 60 HP and do 7 dmg.
- Pylon stats: 1500 HP, 10 Armor, 400 shields.
- Cannon stats: 2500 HP, 10 Armor, 500 shields, 60 dmg.
- Made Outpost Gates invincible.
- Changed purchase cost of spawn level up to 4.
- Archer's upgrade damage increased from +4 to +5.
- Decreased attack of Bike Mode from 30 to 25. (Mech)
- L4 only attacks with 3 Vults/Gols/Tanks instead of 4. (Mech)
- If a player leaves while disabled you can actually win. (Medic)
- Changed HP of mines from 5 to 3. (Spec Ops)
- Changed Dark Archon's Shields from 300 to 250. (Dark Mage)

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 6 2008, 5:06 pm by Mini Moose 2707.




Dec 6 2008, 12:36 am FoxWolf1 Post #991



Quote from Mini Moose 2707
- Changed the max XP cap to apply to units giving over 600 kill score. This means all heroes and upper spawns and such giving a ton of kill score will be worth a max of 16 per kill.

So the DA will no longer be an incredible amount of XP? If so, this change will help me, since as it is, it gives so much XP that I can't resist the temptation to attack it even when I know full well that doing so is certain death...



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Dec 6 2008, 3:58 am Jack Post #992

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Quote from FoxWolf1
Quote from Mini Moose 2707
- Changed the max XP cap to apply to units giving over 600 kill score. This means all heroes and upper spawns and such giving a ton of kill score will be worth a max of 16 per kill.

So the DA will no longer be an incredible amount of XP? If so, this change will help me, since as it is, it gives so much XP that I can't resist the temptation to attack it even when I know full well that doing so is certain death...
This.

Seriously though, it mostly sounds good, especially the archer atk increase,because that makes it a viable strategy to go for attack and hps etc instead of air attack.(i aint gonna stop though. :D ) I actually think it's not such a good idea with the exp cap, because it's soo much lolpwnage watching people trying to freeze me with volt/DM/w/e and then getting lolpwned by mutas. :lol: When I think about it, this makes the Archer weaker in the long run for my particular strategy, although my brother will like it.
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- Changed HP of mines from 5 to 3. (Spec Ops)
Win.Too annoying trying to snipe em otherwise. How much exp do mines give anyway?



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Dec 6 2008, 7:46 am Riney Post #993

Thigh high affectionado

Enough to make it say level up twice if you storm 40



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Dec 6 2008, 5:05 pm Moose Post #994

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Quote from FoxWolf1
So the DA will no longer be an incredible amount of XP? If so, this change will help me, since as it is, it gives so much XP that I can't resist the temptation to attack it even when I know full well that doing so is certain death...
Yes, this includes the DA. I forgot to mention I cut the DA's shields to 250 because of this.

Quote from name:zany_001
Win.Too annoying trying to snipe em otherwise. How much exp do mines give anyway?
25... which is the same as a Broodling.




Dec 6 2008, 7:07 pm Dem0n Post #995

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omg assassin is rigged! You can't see it at night, and it'll still stun you even if you're far away! D:




Dec 6 2008, 7:15 pm Riney Post #996

Thigh high affectionado

So build a detector and rape its incredible low HP?



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Dec 6 2008, 7:21 pm Zhuinden Post #997



Actually Assassin is quite weak, because levelling it is almost impossible.



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Dec 6 2008, 7:35 pm l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #998

Just here for the activity... well not really

Assassin sucks early game, but is a powerful player/basekiller at end.



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Dec 7 2008, 4:29 am Decency Post #999



Is people racing for the Rine in every single game of the tournament enough evidence that you need to lower its attack to 18+2 or so? This "ultra super secret change" could be nice too, but until then, fix the damage.

And please fix the Mech L4, it's rigged to hell. It should spawn half as many guys and it will still be powerful enough with the way most Mechs upgrade.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 7 2008, 4:51 am by FaZ-.



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Dec 7 2008, 5:17 am Echo Post #1000



I would like to point out that battle tanks should be changed. Instead of having it carry 10 scarabs, make it modified to carry just 1 with preserve trigger. Each scarab counts as a unit, therefore lagging the game.



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