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Simple Mafia: Game Over
Oct 21 2012, 2:08 am
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Oct 29 2012, 7:40 pm Aristocrat Post #221



Dem0n claimed townsperson with a seemingly legitimate role PM. I am not ruling out the possibility that Azrael forged this PM for him, judging by the fact that a lot of Dem0n's recent posts seem to echo what Azrael usually does when he starts a bandwagon. I need people to confirm the following:

What exactly does a political science major do, anyway? I mean, how do you find work? It was your brillant idea to turn the town into an ideological democracy, but you're not looking at the broader picture: these people cannot handle a democracy. You should know, being possibly the most qualified townsperson in terms of running a town. The small populace size makes it a suitable environment for operating a pure democracy, but the extremism found in each individual does not bode for a bright future. You started this mess, and you shall be the one to get us out of it: every lynch is a murder enabled under your name, and you better be damned sure to make them count.


1. Is this identical to any role PM that you guys have received, and if so, did you send it to Dem0n?
2. Does this seem plausibly like it's written by Roy? I'm not good at stylistic analysis, but all the role PMs I have so far contain a relationship of some sort, and nothing here suggests anything like that.
3. Can the detective shadow Dem0n tonight and see if he visits anyone? If he does visit somebody, lynch the fuck out of him. Also please contact me in private if you would like to claim detective; I may or may not still die today as a result of the lynch, but I can set you up with my newly-formed coalition.



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Oct 29 2012, 7:49 pm Observer12425 Post #222



Just a thing, I noticed an inordinate number of references to lacking resources, e.g. a proper blindfold or headset. I've made no conclusions.



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Oct 29 2012, 7:52 pm Bar Refaeli Post #223



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Just a thing, I noticed an inordinate number of references to lacking resources, e.g. a proper blindfold or headset. I've made no conclusions.
Observer for Hub 2012. Most honest player out there.



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Oct 29 2012, 8:03 pm Lanthanide Post #224



Quote from Aristocrat
Dem0n claimed townsperson with a seemingly legitimate role PM. I am not ruling out the possibility that Azrael forged this PM for him, judging by the fact that a lot of Dem0n's recent posts seem to echo what Azrael usually does when he starts a bandwagon. I need people to confirm the following:

What exactly does a political science major do, anyway? I mean, how do you find work? It was your brillant idea to turn the town into an ideological democracy, but you're not looking at the broader picture: these people cannot handle a democracy. You should know, being possibly the most qualified townsperson in terms of running a town. The small populace size makes it a suitable environment for operating a pure democracy, but the extremism found in each individual does not bode for a bright future. You started this mess, and you shall be the one to get us out of it: every lynch is a murder enabled under your name, and you better be damned sure to make them count.
Looks like a legit role PM to me, compared to my own.

I think demon is just behaving like a child, like he always does. I was going to switch my vote to him, after the evidence of him copypasta'ing that screed against Aristo (seriously, what 'evidence' can you have immediately after the opening post has gone up?), but this role PM looks pretty legit. Also I don't know why he's linking the last 3 winners of the lottery to this game, since Roy distributed roles using random.org - that's a complete non-sequitor.

I'm going to keep my lynch vote on Kevin for now.



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Oct 29 2012, 8:05 pm Dem0n Post #225

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Lanthanide, please, read my posts before you attack me. I already stated, numerous times, that I had that evidence before the night even ended. I did not want to post it at night because I did not want to be targeted. As soon as Roy posted the night 1 results, I posted my evidence. Also, how does the raffle thing not make sense? So what if the roles were picked randomly? The night post went up after the roles were distributed, so there very well could be a clue in there. You don't make any sense.




Oct 29 2012, 8:08 pm DevliN Post #226

OVERWATCH STATUS GO

I think what Lanth is getting at (and what I basically said earlier) is that your evidence isn't solid in any way. The most conclusive thing against Aristo is based on the role PMs, not anything you said in your post.



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Oct 29 2012, 8:09 pm Dem0n Post #227

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Perhaps, but it's a lead. You can't disprove my connection between the PMs and the Night 1 post, so that basically shows Aristocrat is guilty right there. And if you're so sure that Aristo isn't mafia, please, suggest someone else. If you can prove that someone is mafia, I'll switch to them.




Oct 29 2012, 8:19 pm Lanthanide Post #228



Quote from Dem0n
Perhaps, but it's a lead. You can't disprove my connection between the PMs and the Night 1 post, so that basically shows Aristocrat is guilty right there.
Lol.



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Oct 29 2012, 8:20 pm Dem0n Post #229

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Do you want to disprove it, or do you want to sit here and troll me, proving that you have absolutely no fucking idea how to even begin playing this game?




Oct 29 2012, 8:22 pm DevliN Post #230

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I abstain, for now. I'm tired of the trollfest.



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Oct 29 2012, 8:27 pm LoTu)S Post #231



Switching back to abstain after that.

Still disprove of the clues dem0n pointed out however.




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Oct 29 2012, 8:29 pm Lanthanide Post #232



Quote from Dem0n
Do you want to disprove it, or do you want to sit here and troll me, proving that you have absolutely no fucking idea how to even begin playing this game?
Saying "you can't disprove it therefore it's proof of his guilt" is you trolling us, Demon.



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Oct 29 2012, 8:31 pm Dem0n Post #233

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I've already stated the relevance and the importance of my findings. All you guys are doing is saying, "lolnope," and ending it there. You aren't telling me why it's invalid other than "I don't think so."




Oct 29 2012, 8:34 pm DevliN Post #234

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I've explained why I see it as invalid. Others have as well, as far as I can tell. Just because you don't agree that we find your analysis to be irrelevant and reaching doesn't mean we have to automatically think it is correct. It is okay for you to disagree with us as it is okay for us to disagree with you. :awesome:



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Oct 29 2012, 8:49 pm BiOAtK Post #235



I vote Aristo.

I'm mafia though, guys.



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Oct 29 2012, 9:10 pm rayNimagi Post #236



I don't think Demon is mafia. He just wants to kill Aristocrat.

I don't trust Kame, so don't let her become the town hub. If the cop investigated someone innocent, that person should be the town hub.



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Oct 29 2012, 9:13 pm DevliN Post #237

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Why don't you trust Kame?



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Oct 29 2012, 9:17 pm Dem0n Post #238

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I don't "just want to kill Aristocrat." I have proof against him, and that's why I'm voting for him. If you guys can find better reasoning for lynching someone else, post it, and I may change my vote. But so far, nobody has given any real reasoning as to why are/aren't voting for someone.




Oct 29 2012, 11:05 pm LoTu)S Post #239



So far your clues are

-Bureaucrat=Aristocrat Devlin's argument of Bureau shortened from Bureaucrat= Dem0n is actually more convincing that that.
-Raffle top 3? You're taking a result from 20 raffles ago?


Aris works at Kate's, poor.
lil is CFO of Kate's, rich.

Lil's killer only made reference to being poor with no relation to the lil as a CFO. What you're telling me, is that out of 22 other people in this town, only 1 person is poor?

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"Having no wealth of my own, I am a bit jealous of yours;
In context, this "wealth" means more of a greater than average, rather than sufficiency
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The kidnapper said that although he's poor, he does not need money right now


You can also look at this through the Glass half full/Glass half empty perspective. The killer could be any other middle class individual who is jealous of CFO's tremendous wealth, while also being poor and jealous of the CFO's moderate wealth. Either way, there is still no definite relation of Aris to lil in the text. You may bring up the "Who is Kate? You dont care" = "Do I know you? No, not really.", but that doesn't negate that the sentence was a reference to the name of store, not its managers. It's like for example i were to work at Burger King and ask, "Who's the King, I don't care". It doesn't deny the possibility that one can still know of their superiors, specially for a small store like Kate's.

So far, theres nothing really definite that is enough to ride on as a bandwagon lynch.

Just saying, it really seems like you're forcing clues in order to get Aris lynched.




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Oct 29 2012, 11:11 pm Leon-037 Post #240



Double lynch, anyone? :awesome:



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