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The clues are rarely applied to the person getting killed. Moose almost always applies the clues to the person they are referring to.

How wrong you are. I tried to follow this standard when writing clues, but Moose very commonly puts clues anywhere.

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Removing his obnoxiously reflective sunglasses, a man removes a small and ornate gray box and key from his jacket.

The man with the sunglasses is clearly not mafia, as he dies in the scene, but the sunglasses are 'aviators', a clue to FlyingHat.

Funny, I just reread the entire Day 1 post, and nowhere does it reference the man in sunglasses being killed. In fact, in the Day 2 post there is another reference to a man in sunglasses, this time clearly stated to be mafia:

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The seven mafia then file out, stealing silently upstairs. As the mafia arm the explosives, the digital timers cast an eerie green light that reflects off a mafia's large, circular sunglasses.

Mmmmmm, ouch.

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No time for analyzing huh? I see. The conversation cannot be counted as evidence, if it is true, the game is ruined. If it is false then it obviously holds no bearing.

I like this argument: "If I'm mafia it's not fair you caught me so you can't lynch me!".

Oh, and I apologize for having a real life.

Umm.. that example you gave (which I bolded) is just.. wrong, there's a big difference between 'being caught' and having a supposed fellow teammate give you away. As I already said though, it is irrelevant because he was lying. If anything you be should lynching him, either for going against the intention of the game, or for giving false information to the town.

And with your pleasantness, I have no difficulty believing that you have this supposed real life.

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Now, in your interpretation you point out KrayZee for his BC avatar, but neglect to mention your own. Obviously you don't want to put yourself in a bad light, but come on, you seem to be trying to stay under the radar.

I think it's obvious I have a battlecruiser for an avatar. I do nobody any good by making accusations that I know are not true.

Not making accusations, just putting everything in the light (as you should notice I did).

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Looking at it under the assumption that DTBK is mafia, it would not make sense for him to target devilesk; in the nighttime meeting topic devilesk clearly stated that he was fairly certain DTBK is a townsperson.

If devilesk hadn't died, he could tell you I definitively proved to him that I am not mafia.

I'm sure. That's why in the nighttime meeting topic he stated that if the clues pointed to you, you would still be lynched. Most of your claims are false ;o

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Besides all the clues, all evident behavior points directly at Nerdy. We all know he has a huge vendetta against devilesk, and look, four hits! He quickly notices that the two other dead people both voted for me, perhaps because "the mafia set me up." Sure they did, and he was the one to do it.

Um, I always look at who died and who they voted for the previous round(s). It's an easy method of analyzing that isn't very time consuming. If I were mafia, I would not be so stupid as to direct so many hits towards devilesk. It is obvious that I hate it that devilesk is being allowed to play in this game, but I still play to win. As mafia, I could not expect to hit devilesk so intensely and get away with it (as is obvious from the current suspicions against me).

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I also think Nerdy is stupid enough to straightly deflect clues away from his fellow mafia, so if he turns out to be mafia, KrayZee would be the first one to go after.

I think Nerdy is just building his own gallows now. My vote is pretty definitively on Nerdy.

Hmm.. a flame and you seem to be ignoring Corbo altogether. Why would you do that? You seem to be working under the assumption that the conversation with him was true, yet you have no desire to lynch him. I'm beginning to think you two are connected as mafia. Sure, you'd be sacrificing one of your own, but in the same you'd waste one of the town's lynches and buy yourself an extra night to do damage. A seemingly effective strategy, now that I think of it.

And as usual, you claim that I'm "building my own gallows now" as if you've actually proven anything from your post. You haven't, but you are making some things clear to me.

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Now, in your interpretation you point out KrayZee for his BC avatar, but neglect to mention your own. Obviously you don't want to put yourself in a bad light, but come on, you seem to be trying to stay under the radar.

It's implicit. He's pointed at himself numerous times previously, and the Battlecruiser thing is brought up often enough already. If anything, I would find it odd if he felt the need to constantly point at himself, as if he's trying too hard to earn the town's trust. As it is, I can hold nothing against nor for him, on such grounds atleast.

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Obviously the mafia could be trying to set DTBK up to look suspicious, but why not use the two hits on him and someone else instead?

Because, if they can manipulate the town into killing someone for them, they effectively get one extra hit.

He could have made a small mention of it. But I see your point and concede that it is not necessarily worthy of mention.

They would get an extra hit, but they would sacrifice getting rid of the analyzations of a rather active player, in place of getting rid of two relatively inactive players. Of course, maybe they predicted he would do this (assuming he's not mafia), or maybe he and Corbo are both mafia (as previously mentioned) and they thought that would go unnoticed.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Sep 27 2008, 3:59 am by NerdyTerdy.

I'm voting whoever is voting against NerdyTerdy. That person is obviously mafia, misleading won't happen again.

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I'm voting whoever is voting against NerdyTerdy. That person is obviously mafia, misleading won't happen again.

Aww <3

I just noticed something else:

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Devilesk regrets leaving almost immediately. He discovers cheeze blocking his walkway. Devilesk goes over to speak to him and asks cheeze what he's doing here, but he does not respond. Cheeze falls limp into devilesk's arms. Devilesk lets go and cheeze drops to the floor, with a couple of knives stuck in his back. Before he can react, two knives are in devilesk's chest as well. Devilesk falls to the floor unconscious.

cheeze's manner of death suggests Corbo to me. It would obviously be a reference to Corbo's claims of backstabbing me. He made several such references in a few topics and in the shoutbox. Corbo labeled himself as a backstabber, and cheeze was quite literally killed by being stabbed in the back.

I see this as a fairly strong connection, and will likely be switching my vote to Corbo.

You know what? I just remembered something.

The harvest clue. Something was "growing". Now whos avatar has something growing on it, and can fire burst laser attacks?

I'm going to vote for DT_Battlekruser, on account of something "growing" on that battlecruiser.

Lingie#3148 on Discord. Lingie, the Fox-Tailed on Steam.

ALL PRAISE YOUR SUPREME LORD CORBO

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cheeze's manner of death suggests Corbo to me. It would obviously be a reference to Corbo's claims of backstabbing me. He made several such references in a few topics and in the shoutbox. Corbo labeled himself as a backstabber, and cheeze was quite literally killed by being stabbed in the back.

I see this as a fairly strong connection, and will likely be switching my vote to Corbo.

Well, if I backstabbed you that makes you mafia, doesn't it?

WOW YOU'RE SO SMART DUDE!

My vote still is to my dear NerdyTerdy

fuck you all

I change vote to DTBK.

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cheeze's manner of death suggests Corbo to me. It would obviously be a reference to Corbo's claims of backstabbing me. He made several such references in a few topics and in the shoutbox. Corbo labeled himself as a backstabber, and cheeze was quite literally killed by being stabbed in the back.

I see this as a fairly strong connection, and will likely be switching my vote to Corbo.

Well, if I backstabbed you that makes you mafia, doesn't it?

WOW YOU'RE SO SMART DUDE!

My vote still is to my dear NerdyTerdy

LOL that even makes the dead laugh in their graves. :lol:

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cheeze's manner of death suggests Corbo to me. It would obviously be a reference to Corbo's claims of backstabbing me. He made several such references in a few topics and in the shoutbox. Corbo labeled himself as a backstabber, and cheeze was quite literally killed by being stabbed in the back.

I see this as a fairly strong connection, and will likely be switching my vote to Corbo.

Well, if I backstabbed you that makes you mafie, doesn't it?

WOW YOU'RE SO SMART DUDE!

My vote still is to my dear NerdyTerdy

I actually deliberately worded my post to say that you labeled yourself as a backstabber. I am not in fact mafia, so the label you have given yourself is the only thing of relevance in the clue. You fail

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LOL that even makes the dead laugh in their graves. :lol:

Again, large masses of fail detected.

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cheeze's manner of death suggests Corbo to me. It would obviously be a reference to Corbo's claims of backstabbing me. He made several such references in a few topics and in the shoutbox. Corbo labeled himself as a backstabber, and cheeze was quite literally killed by being stabbed in the back.

I see this as a fairly strong connection, and will likely be switching my vote to Corbo.

Only problem is that, if my memory is not generalizing incorrectly, Moose's clues tend to be more on the figurative side, and less on the literal - he would have described a backstabbing in the form of betrayal, rather than that of an actual knifing.
Although, this does bring WoA-Horde to mind. The Spy's preferred means of kill is via knife to the back, if I understand TF2 ( which I've not played ) correctly, and it would explain the "MM" connection... though I somehow doubt that, even if he did make mafia twice in a row, Moose would use the exact same style clues as were prevailent last game.

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cheeze's manner of death suggests Corbo to me. It would obviously be a reference to Corbo's claims of backstabbing me. He made several such references in a few topics and in the shoutbox. Corbo labeled himself as a backstabber, and cheeze was quite literally killed by being stabbed in the back.

I see this as a fairly strong connection, and will likely be switching my vote to Corbo.

Only problem is that, if my memory is not generalizing incorrectly, Moose's clues tend to be more on the figurative side, and less on the literal - he would have described a backstabbing in the form of betrayal, rather than that of an actual knifing.
Although, this does bring WoA-Horde to mind. The Spy's preferred means of kill is via knife to the back, if I understand TF2 ( which I've not played ) correctly, and it would explain the "MM" connection... though I somehow doubt that, even if he did make mafia twice in a row, Moose would use the exact same style clues as were prevailent last game.

All I can say to this is that as far as I can tell from Moose's past clues, the style is varied. In Mafia 1 he continually made clues about a man who was able to survive anything as a reference to CrimsonMagnum who had an "Immortal" in his signature. That seems pretty straight forward (and we still didn't manage to get him, lol). I had alternatively interpreted it to be FatalException, because he was an 'exception to fate' in the fact that he couldn't die. But that was more figurative than CrimsonMagnum's immortal, in my view anyway.

I don't think we can throw this clue out. Partially because I know Corbo is lying about me, and partially because it does seem like a strong clue.

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The town rests rather quietly, except for devilesk. It isn't that anything is actually physically wrong with him. It was the ghost. The ghost of Mini Moose 2707 had appeared to him. The ghost had warned him that the mafia had declared war on him. They want him dead most of all. Devilesk goes to his refrigerator and takes a shot of whiskey. He decides it is probably smarter not to get hammered. He puts the bottle down and returns to his living room to watch TV. He slowly begins to panic. Every shadow moving against his windows adds to his paranoia. Every gust of wind contributes to his fear. Every noise and any little thing that went bump in the night exacerbates his terror. He can't take it; he as to get outside, now. He lights a cigarette, leaves his house, and doesn't even bother locking the door.

Devilesk regrets leaving almost immediately. He discovers cheeze blocking his walkway. Devilesk goes over to speak to him and asks cheeze what he's doing here, but he does not respond. Cheeze falls limp into devilesk's arms. Devilesk lets go and cheeze drops to the floor, with a couple of knives stuck in his back. Before he can react, two knives are in devilesk's chest as well. Devilesk falls to the floor unconscious.

An hour later, he wakes up. He finds that his wounds are bandaged. A car is running in front of his house. FlyingHat calls to him from the window. "You don't look so good, let's get you out of here." And so they drive. "Were you the one who patched me up?" asks Devilesk. "No, I just got here. Figured you could use the trip out. Lightning doesn't strike the same place twice, but the mafia do," chuckles FlyingHat. "So, where are we going?" asks devilesk, as they spot a man in the street holding some sort of light.

The man is too far away, they can't make out who he is or what he is doing. FlyingHat begins to answer devilesk's question, but a ray of light shoots through the car. It goes through the hood and the windshield and various parts of the car, through FlyingHat, and out of the back of car, clean through. "Holy shit!" yells Devilesk, as he struggles to take the wheel and brake. Smoke is shooting out of the car's hood and the car is too damaged to be controlled. The car veers off the road and into a tree. Devilesk goes through the windshield and smashes into the trunk of the tree. He rests unconscious on the hood of the car.

After some amount of time, devilesk wakes up again. He wipes the blood off his head. He gets up. For now, Devilesk can cheat death. He gets up and walks. He takes a left, then a right. He loses track of where he is going, but he continues. He runs. Runs away from the mafia. Devilesk feels like he can fly. Soon, however, he comes to the wrong street.

Of course, he has no way of knowing that. A man appears out of the ground, holding a machine gun. "WHY DON'T YOU DIE?" yells the man in a stentorian voice. The fully automatic weapon pisses ammo into devilesk. Ten, twenty, fifty, a hundred bullets blast devilesk. He is long past dead. The mafia reloads his gun and fires into the corpse until it no longer resembles anything but a pile of multicolored mush. Not even devilesk can withstand this punishment.

The town wakes up to find the gruesome wreckage spread about. They remove the corpse of FlyingHat for burial and notice "pwnt" going through his chest. Minus a chunk of flesh that was the hole of the p, of course. The deaths of these individuals were a vicious rampage. The town only hopes that they can be more vicious.

** DAY TWO START **
Please vote for a lynch or abstain. There will be strict activity bans this game.

"Lightning doesn't strike the same place twice..." - Someone who uses lightning, perhaps?
"...holding some sort of light" and "...ray of light..." - This must deal with someone using a lightning bolt or the like as a weapon, or perhaps the same energy guy. I'd say this points right at TassadarZeratul, an Archon, which uses blasts of light that they hold. Their attack is also able to deal 100% damage to large units and buildings, which may suggest what happened to the house and the car. Might not be right, but this is my best guess.
"After some amount of time, devilesk wakes up again...", "WHY DON'T YOU DIE?", and "He finds that his wounds are bandaged" - suggest that he had at least one doctor save him, and including his meat shield ability, he was hit at least 3 and at most 4 times. Interesting that there's no notable clues about anyone else "almost getting hit" or the like.
"Pisses ammo" - I have no clue, but this is a very awkward way to describe a rain of bullets. Someone with guns and a gritty attitude?
"Multicolored Mush" - Once again, another MM clue. Leads right for Corbo.
'The Pwnt Clue' - And once again, another clue. "Owned and Pwnt". They must mean SOMETHING.
"Vicious rampage" - Someone who is probably a bloodthirsty berserker.

I will ABSTAIN for now. Corbo looks like the most obvious suspect, with Zeratul in second, and before I start a bandwagon, I'd like to investigate the clues more.

We live in a society.

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I'm voting whoever is voting against NerdyTerdy. That person is obviously mafia, misleading won't happen again.

This violates the voting regulations.

VOTER :: LYNCH CANDIDATE

Corbo :: NerdyTerdy
payne :: Killer_Kow
lil-inferno :: NerdyTerdy
Zycorax :: Paravin.
DT_Battlekruser :: NerdyTerdy
Hitok1r1 :: NerdyTerdy
Phobos :: NerdyTerdy (5)
Darkling :: DT_Battlekruser
EcHo :: DT_Battlekruser (2)

Abstaining: Paravin (2), Greo, EzDay281, NerdyTerdy, Dapperdan, Oyen
Italic abstains are "implied" abstains from people that have posted but not explicity voted. They do not count towards the total but are considered active for activity-ban purposes.

11 of 30 votes placed.

https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/how-this-all-happened/
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
https://youtu.be/vyiXaCRwZTs
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/09/how_to_be_mean_to_your_kids.html
http://lab.cccb.org/en/renata-avila-the-internet-of-creation-disappeared-now-we-have-the-internet-of-surveillance-and-control/

I vote for NerdyTerdy.

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Nerdy, FOR THE RECORD, may I state how sorrily wrong you are.

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On the rural flatlands of a small town, most people have gone to sleep. A gentle rain bathes the houses and businesses and gradually intensifies. There is no thunder or lightning, but enough rain to keep most folk indoors. Only the moon and a single golden star shine in the overcast night. Overall, a fine cover is provided for murderous mischief.

On the outskirts of town, surrounded by acres of corn fields, a shady transaction is taking place. Four gentlemen, in two pairs meet in a small clearing in the crops. Removing his obnoxiously reflective sunglasses, a man removes a small and ornate gray box and key from his jacket. He passes it to a man of the other pair, a man with antlers. Unlocking the box, the man with antlers peers inside and smiles. "Good, excellent. You kept your end of the bargain," he says, locking the box shut and passing it to his friend. Reaching inside his coat, he deposits the key and takes out a money clip. "One, two, three..." he counts out stacks of $100 bills into his seller's hands until he reaches $50,000.

"Good doing business with you," says the man in a thick German accent as he stuffs the cash into his vest. As he adjusts his tie, seven clicks of guns are heard from around the entire space of the transaction. Several forms emerge from the shadows and gesture towards the box and the money, "We'll be taking those". "Mafia, I should have known" remarked the man with the antlers. The mafia made a simple but cryptic reply: "Yes, I have moved." Various words were exchanged in argument as everyone spoke at once. Little sense was made for those ten seconds, at which point the mafia opened fire. Bullets, similar to the rain pounding the ground, are shot into the two pairs of men, who die before even falling to the floor. As the mafia loot the corpses for the money and the box, lights flash on in a distant farmhouse. The mafia hurries up before they can be caught, and neglect to search for the key to the box.

Abandoning the corpses among the crops, the mafia makes a quick and artful escape. The owner of the farmhouse discovers the bodies and notices a glint of metal from one of the fallen corpses. Taking the key and placing it in his pocket, he returns home to notify the police. The body of Mini Moose 2707 and the other men are promptly buried the next morning. The burial rites are not quiet among the restless town craving revenge. Before the shovels even bury the final corpse, the town begins expedient erection of a guillotine. Horns blare to gather the town into the town hall, all of the townspeople gather for their first lynching.

Corpses. Plural. The four men mentioned at the beginning are all killed by the mafia.

And yes, in Day 2, a mafia is now wearing the sunglasses. Want to know why? I wrote that post.

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Hmm.. a flame and you seem to be ignoring Corbo altogether. Why would you do that? You seem to be working under the assumption that the conversation with him was true, yet you have no desire to lynch him. I'm beginning to think you two are connected as mafia. Sure, you'd be sacrificing one of your own, but in the same you'd waste one of the town's lynches and buy yourself an extra night to do damage. A seemingly effective strategy, now that I think of it.

Yes, I could try to lynch Corbo, or you. Why you? Because you have contributed absolutely nothing to this game, and you have a track record of being unhelpful. All day one you tried to get devilesk lynched, and look, he wasn't mafia. There wasn't even any evidence pointing to his being mafia. Now you're trying to get me lynched, based on awful scant evidence. You have only the "yamato cannon" clue, which we just as easily tried to pin to Kevin and found we were wrong.

I will take a pledge right now: if we lynch you and Corbo is lying, Corbo can die next.

And don't forget there is the left/right clue pointing to you, and the Stentorian (shouting) clue. You haven't successfully explained those, either.

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As of now, I can't really tell who's the better liar: DT_BK or Nerdy.

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"WHY DON'T YOU DIE?"

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vicious rampage

Point to Zombies, perhaps?

The first paragraph seems to deal with addictions (smoking and drinking), who on SEN drinks/smokes frequently and always annouces it?

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As of now, I can't really tell who's the better liar: DT_BK or Nerdy.

That's the problem with winning this game.. nobody believes a word you say anymore

I am certainly telling the truth about last game though, I was the other writer after all.

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"WHY DON'T YOU DIE?"

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vicious rampage

Point to Zombies, perhaps?

The first paragraph seems to deal with addictions (smoking and drinking), who on SEN drinks/smokes frequently and always annouces it?

Nerdy? No.. that's only when he doesn't get sex at parties.. I don't like the zombie reference though - everything in a post about murders can be connected to zombies, swords, ninja, fires, and shotguns.

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Thigh high affectionado

I abstain for nao

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I'm picking NerdyTerdy.

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He wipes the blood off his head

I have a feeling that this line might be a clue, but I'm not sure how.

I was looking through NerdyTerdy's profile, trying to find clues and I noticed something interesting. His join date is september 1st. IIRC, World War 2 began on september 1st, 1939 when Nazi Germany attacked Poland. Nerdy's avatar appears to be a Nazi swastika. Probably not a clue in any way, but an interesting coincidence.

Well, for now, based on the Shouting clue and avatar-related clues for NerdyTerdy, I am voting NerdyTerdy.

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