I have a grudging feeling that Esponeo's blasphemous actions will, in time, do some good. I say, for the time being, let these events take place, and see how the community changes. Maybe members who are just here to spam the forums will smarten up, and learn to use the "Preview" button before posting to prevent their topic being locked, or post being deleted, or losing their minerals. (Which are of great value! ) There has been countless complaints, and stressed out members, who just said "I lost it.", after thinking there is something wrong with the community. Lots of members even left because of the "newbies". I certainly don't want members leaving because there isn't enough moderation going on. If you want to add something to a topic, just pm a moderator and ask if it is okay to unlock it for a minute to post this: "your text". If it doesn't continue with the reason for which it was closed for, they will most likely allow you to post it. Other than that, it is useless, and that is why it was closed in the first place.

I've already ousted your heresy here.
Nice try esperonzo.

Guys. I just realized what AES stood for. And it sucks.
(thought you should know)

Although I agree with you on the lack of legitimacy of the information given, but I don't think that it was neccesary for the topic to be closed. What was the topic doing that was wrong?

Even your post in this thread about that thread brings something worth discussing, the idea that Blizzard has always tried to make their game accessible to as many people as possible. So sure, was the information provided borderline uesless? Quite possibly, but I don't think the thread and the discussion the thread created was worthy of locking. Heck, even if 80% of the posts were "omg i kent run this gaim" it sort of presents the idea that the required specs will need to be low to satisfy a majority of people or the idea that people might need to upgrade their computers. I dunno, but either way it's definitley not a topic worth locking.

lol he deleted my post in this thread.
although it was kind of a spammy (i said, "omg, its maplantis.") The rest of the post still complemented on the blend.

Is it possible for the topic owners to be able to unlock their own topics if they want more feedback, or feel that the discussion isn't over? I remember v4 had this, I liked it. But have it display the reason for unlocking. So like a lock history

"Locked Reason: It has been made quite clear that this blend is good."
"Unlocked Reason: I want more feedback."

"It has been made quite clear that this blend is good." How the heck is that a reason to close a topic?
Following the same logic, Moose's armored core and uberena topics should have been closed some days after making them because "it was quite clear that those maps where good".

Also you cannot tell the people to revive old topics if they need to add any extra information if all of them are closed because they've been "resolved".

Nearly all of my moderation actions have been well defended by Moose already; there's no point in my doing the same. The few that he did not defend or did not know how to defend are trivial. If anyone would like a more specific explanation of why any of the listed topics were locked, feel free to say so here or contact me directly.

You may not be aware of this but there have been other topics such as this one in the past and they have not been locked. The very idea that I would pass up the chance to read criticisms of my actions is absurd and insulting. How are we to better ourselves if we ignore the world around us?

I have never been flattered by AES. I am still curious as to who AntiEsponeo is.

All of the posts of yours which I deleted had reasons attached to them. Your private message to me contained a single line, "whats your problem?" I really did not feel like bickering with you about anything. My answer to your question is that I do not have a problem.

I thought this was rather funny, as I never use the preview button. I often go back and edit my posts several times, however that can be a bad thing if people start reading the topics before I finish.

I would never be an asshole to someone who did not deserve it.

AntiEsponeo is one of the Orig members. I think it's Matt or Test. Esponeo is one of the fairest person ever. The only reason why he closes the thread is to stop the incoming spam or to lock it because it is solved.

Take a look at your actions more thoroughly next time, as, right now, you have been a great deal more strict than any other mod I recall...in fact, I remember you used to be far more decent in v4. Look at SEN itself lighter, we're all here to have fun.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 27 2008, 11:54 pm by Deathman101.

You've been an asshole to most people who got their topics closed since most of the reasons you wrote / last posts were quite lame. If you cannot find a good reason to close a topic, do not do it. Being a moderator means helping the comunity, not having to close a choosen number of topics per day. Noone is paying you for that.

Reasons like
"This is spam because no one cares and you'll be back anyway, and if you won't be back, once again no one cares."
or
"It has been made quite clear that this blend is good."
or
"You could just make two maps and pick which one you want to play beforehand." *
are not valid reasons to close a topic. Either find a better one or leave the topic opened.

EDIT: and btw your opinion is not better than the rest one just because you're a mod. You have no right to add another idea to the topic such as in * and then close it to avoid anyone else from posting in it...

imho i think we have like only 4 topics against esponeo, even then only like one or two actually deserved for somone to make a topic about ...much less make antiesponeo...is that wut AES means?

Look at how AntiEsponeo capitalizes SEN. I only know of one person who does it like that (not saying there aren't more) and that is DTBK. Anyway, this whole crusade against Esponeo was old when it started. He's doing fine as a mod and if Moose decides otherwise he will be relieved.

Voyager has been a huge part of SEN... he has contributed so much to the community and the very least we could do is allow people to post in his topic. Usually spam is like advertising, or stupid things nobody cares about. A lot of people care about him, and the topic appeared to be only locked because of the personal opinion of one moderator.

I don't really like locking topics, it doesn't "end" or "censor" anything, if its a controversial issue its going to come up in like 10 other places in the forum. All it really does is seek to irritate the few smart and fun people left in the community. This is what they mean by "SEN isn't the same anymore", SEN didn't take much of a biased stance against anything, SEN had a lot of intelligent mappers/modders, SEN was the source of a lot of great information. Slowly thats all been going downhill because they just don't stick around anymore.

If moose thinks its fine, then alright. Personally I'm not going to fight it. However, people here are voicing that they aren't in favor of his actions, and if they get ignored then they'll just keep leaving. Nothing forces them to stay here, but if you ignore them enough them all long enough then the community is going to be lacking intelligence and instead be filled with 13 year old idiots.

The logic was that the only posts made in the topic were about the blend being good. I don't see that in either of my topics.

I for one no longer intend on contributing to boards in the Other section. Why should I devote a few hours of my life writing a legitimate post just to have the thread it's in locked because a moderator thinks "There is nothing new to say" or that "Mature discussion is impossible" (nevermind locking prevents that from occuring) or that they just don't "like" the thread.

I also dislike when a moderator insults my intelligence or talks down to me.

http://www.staredit.net/topic/3467/

I would also like to add that he deleted the topic at first because he couldn't read/didn't see/didn't look hard enough, the "You need to vote before you post/see others replies" banner underneath the polling booth...

He stated that he only saw one post so he deleted it. He later realized that he was wrong, but still, jumping the gun...

I topic is never "finished" or "solved". There is always someone who has something else to post in there or ask a question to further their own knowledge of the subject. I for one think that this is a much better way to fix the problem rather then locking/deleting a topic. I would rather have a topic in UMS Assistance that has 20+ posts then a bunch of topics that ask the same question with different circumstances.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jun 28 2008, 1:32 am by Brontobyte.

Quite frankly Moose, i'm very unpleasantly surprised with you. The way long time contributors as well as generally decent members have been judged and treated by Esponeo is absolutely inexcusable. Your lax attitude towards his elitist/high-horse attitude is disgusting, and i don't know how in the hell you plan to keep anyone here with such decisions.

Yoshi is exactly right. Voy and Syphon already left, and as for me, well even Warboards is looking nice right about now. Because SEN is already slowly becoming what most other SC forums have, brainless, and here due to the administrations inability to make this a good place for the members.

Leave moose alone. He already suffered two great moderators quitting and he's the only one doing something for the site. IP has been inactive and Yoshi well, yoshi has to work on latova cause we like latova
Esponeo has always been like this, it's not like suddenly he became an ass or anything at all. In my opinion whatever he's doing, besides making all of you hating him is actually rather good. The posts he has deleted were at some point spam or would have become such thing and if you don't like it well, that's why this is good, because if you don't like it leave it. Maybe this way is the only way we'd get rid of spammers.
I have even suffered him deleting some posts of mine but I do not complain and actually think it was fair.

But Moose, just so you know, IP would never be happy with this, he's more the type of "let's give them a second chance" and "let's warn them before fining minerals"

Reminds me of DTBK era where everyone would post only adequate things on UMS assistance and posts would be closed when solved but creators should be able to open their posts in other to improve the topic and only to improve it. Take that blend topic for example, if he wants to add more blends he'll have to make a whole other topic again to post them because it's closed.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 28 2008, 1:46 am by Corbo.

Well, uhh... Isn't Esponeo fixing that by locking topics which have gone on forever, or are just spam (Granted, the Voy thing ws kind of harsh)? While he is a bit baised, it's better to have someone like that as opposed to someone who does nothing. I'm in favor of alot of Esponeo's decisions, most of those topics were solved, or given as many solutions as possible. He isn't quite as elite as some of the moderators on WarBoards (Protogod), and they have alot more idiots there, I should know.