A few reasons:

1. It's exposure to chemicals that are altering your body. This is mostly a personal thing, but I think this carries more inherent and unforeseen dangers than other recreational activities. I know you can argue that this is similar to eating vitamins in your food or whatever, but like I said it's mostly a personal thing. I think taking anything unusual needs a damn good reason.

2. The large cost and illegality (in most cases).

3. While drug users can argue tirelessly debunking various "anti-drug myths" I also don't believe that drug use is completely free from any negative side effects. Unlike certain things (such as exercise), using drugs doesn't seem to carry any lasting benefit.

As far as video games go, I think when they are played beyond a certain point, they can be just as much of a problem as drugs, if not more (god forbid I say that on a gaming website). I think video games are inherently less dangerous, but can be abused like anything else. I don't have much a higher opinion of chronic video game playing (the ~7 hour a day kind) than of chronic drug use.


EDIT: At the bottom level, this is a moral argument, not a logical argument. I am morally opposed to most of what drugs are. I don't believe in using substances to chemically control your mood or stay happy; in my opinion doing so is unnatural and unhealthy. I am also opposed to the idea of trying to drown your troubles. Loud "music", senseless parties, alcohol, and the "rave drugs" all espouse this. It's a culture that makes my skin crawl.

But there are opinions and morals, not facts and conclusions. So let's drop the argument.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 15 2009, 6:44 am by DT_Battlekruser.

This, in its entirety.

As before, when I was talking to Ex, he brought up a very solid point: Don't do/talk/refrence them around me, and we could care less about their existance, let alone their users.

When I was in jail, this was an entirely different story, as just about every guy in there was taking turns going into the back cells to take some puffs off some marijuana. Seeing as how I was outnumbered about 30:1, there wasn't much I could do, except to ask them out of my room, and to not do them in there. Thankfully, they had no problem with it, and made sure they didn't do them in my cell. (it, being one in the back, under the stairwell to the cells on the 6th floor.) My reason for it was simple: I have Asthma, baaaaad. The second I smelled a wiff of that smoke come out into the main cell block I was in, I nearly choked to death. My point is this; as long as people who do smoke anything keep it away from me (and I'd think my reason can suffice enough), I have no problems with them at all. It is their life, and I am not one to influence or change it for my benefit.

I am currently intoxicated on chinese liquor. I find this quite funny for some reason, but I hope that tomorrow morning I will be fine for class. It's much stronger than I anticipated.

Damn I typed that good

Drunk Vrael: He types good instead of well.

Win.

I also like how stinted the sentences are; it's like he really needed to concentrate incredibly hard to get each sentence and statement he could make one at a time.

And damn, he typed that good

WAT... explain plz.

Hey if i were to ask what was the prices of Salvia and shrooms and the quantity for that price would that be against SEN rules?

The point is, i work at IBM where most people go 2-8 years of school, I work with people who went to school and get payed the same amount as me, Yes im not the top of IBM but, I get my own "cube" and my own laptop, and my own phone. IBM also will send me to school if they have to once i advance. Im getting "promoted" to a lvl where i would say 80% of people have a degree in something.
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77
if you look at that site im making more than a Bachelor's degree or higher, now imagine when i do go to school, and my job pays for it.
now all i am saying is, yes we have people out there that act stupid when they are doing drugs, but same with people who play games, i rember back in the day i would start failing classes because if all the time I spent on games. So if you want to be aganst drugs you have to be aganst people actually that let things controll them, this can be anything including drugs.


lol it does not matter, because it depends on where you live. But usually how it goes is,

Shrooms < Half of weed's cost.
Salvia> cost is about double of weed.

PS Salvia is a legal drug you can go pick it up from your local head shop usually. It is legal because its not suppose to be smoked, its suppose to be burned as a inscent to induce "happy" feelings.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 15 2009, 7:08 pm by Ashamed.

Salvia's legal bro.

Hi all, first post in months.
I smoke weed quite often, and have for years. I maintain a 3.6 GPA and honestly don't think it affects my life in a negative way. Probably even positive because I tend to rage less at people and be a pretty relaxed guy most of the time. Only downside is that my memory's a joke, but there you have it.

About a month ago this friday, I was in jail for a week and a half because me and my mother got in a slap fight, and she called the police out to spite me or whatever. I had claw maks on me, but they automatically assumed I was the aggressor. Go me.

Anyways.. Yeah.

Hey Darkling, you seem to have confused cannabis smoke with tobacco smoke! Cannabis dilates the airway and makes it easier to breath almost instantly, however tobacco in cigar wraps for blunts and the paper in joints do not mix well with no coughing/asthma. If you do want to smoke weed for whatever reason you can either vaporize it (the healthiest way besides not ingesting it), use a simple glass pipe, or make some edibles.

Just informing people that MMJ cards have been given out for asthma.

Thats the thing. I DON'T want to smoke anything. Personally, if I had the choice of whatever I would want, I'd prefer something much more tangible, such as a new game for my 360 or something like that. Frankly though, I just don't have any money to do anything, so thats out of the question as well.

Not trying to convince you to smoke, just letting you know man.

I have no problem with people that don't do drugs.

Salvia: be prepared to be eaten by your couch while on a roller coaster.
Alcohol: be prepared to lose motor function and stability under prolonged exposure.
Weed: from what I've heard, it's much milder than Salvia, but lasts 10x as long. Much more "efficient".
Crack: be prepared to suck dicks.
Yeyo: Enjoy your nosebleeds.
Meth: Riding a horse bareback into your parents house and trampling over the gnomes living under the bed isn't normal. But on meth it is.

Personally, I hate not being in complete control of my bodily functions, so I have limited experience with ingested chemicals.

Haha, that's cute. It reminds me of me when I was a little kid! Don't take it the wrong way, I suppose I really liked video games back in the day. Carry on, though.

I like being cute. It make me feel happy inside.

Hey guys I finally signed on and wanted to post to this from a few experiences I had. Since really fuck I only tell my self Im doing to see how the shit really works and one night this happened.

1. When to a friends house and everyone was having one and his parents decide to give us the keg and budlight as a gift since they though were mature. It was going well till the end....17 beers binged(first time I may add) 3 jello shots for laughs and two bud limes. I was dizzy and confused on how to walk but could remember everything (weird I know...I didnt puke that hole night and no hangover <----LUCKY!!! ) anyways I was kinda tippsy and for laughs I said I would jump the huge fire in front of us so they decided to put me into a small tent outside BUT BEFORE they did do that they offered me to sleep with this one lesbain chick and bi sexual chick cause they are caring and give me company. But I said no...cause If I threw up I would of felt horrible and they would of had to put up with me... Lol ANYWAYS In my lone tent I tried to sleep but then realized I had to pee and cause I was a fucking wreck and fucked up so bad on my first time they had his other best friend sit out and watch me!!!*great!* but then..I found out why....I hear moaning when I try to slip out of my tent....I when "wtf" very sliently...and feeling polite I decided to wait and pee till they were finished...WORSE FUCKING I DEA EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT TOOK 30 FUCKING MINS OF MOANING AND SCREAMING TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF THAT TENT SO I COULD GOD DAMN PISS...oh and before they decided I was asleep he comes by my tent and pees beside it cause I was kinda near the wooded area....and I was like this is hell... and layed down quietly...(it gets worse....) finally after they when in I made my escape and made it to the highway which was just down the road from where I was at and started to pee...then out of no fucking reasoning I decide to sleep a mile n a half dow nthe road in someones work truck...

then passout and end up later in a barn....A fucking... Barn....for a first time I was like this is crazy as hell...and suddley realized if I dont go back the police could get invovled and parents would flip out knowing there son is a bad drinker and could run everywhere if drunk and Bam I decided to run back...from where ever I was...So I came to a road and found out that I was a mile away and sad....fuck....it was really creepy...Still had a bad buzz and my legs were like smashed patatos...Honestly not a good idea to be walking on a back road with few cars...I felt like I could of been raped by some rednecks at any moment...Anyways after crawling...running than falling and then just walking...I made it back there. it was very cold at first and the best idea was to sleep in someones car... did for 10 mins and it was still too could so....I ended up going inside the house.... which found out no one slept outside...and passed out in a corner of the room... woke up! no headache no hangover...Just real real hungry...


2. .....fuck Im tired I had pot and beer story 2 and 3 and 4 but fuck...Ill write them later...

i was an alcoholic since i was born.

The closest I've gotten to drugs/alcohol is a sip of beer that my dad let me taste. It tasted like shit and I don't plan on doing any drugs ever. Most people do it because they wanna feel high, but I'm almost always naturally high in real life; don't need drugs to help me on that . It's sad, really, to see all of your friends from your childhood become drug fiends in high school.

Inferno, claiming you're almost always naturally high in "real life" without ever experiencing any sort of high before is taking a big leap.

I accidentally was drunk for a moment when I was 13, was not good time.
I love my coffeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I'm pretty much clean, no meth or weed or anything like that.