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Feb 25 2009, 11:21 pm A_of-s_t Post #21

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Phhfftt you can play with a 4kb connection like me.



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Feb 25 2009, 11:54 pm O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #22

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I can host easy. :hurr:



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Feb 26 2009, 12:21 am Syphon Post #23



Quote from IskatuMesk
What the fuck is with every sc player here and at CC/SA having the shittiest internet ever? Why is it only like 3 people total I know of can host games without problems? Get a real ISP and stop failing, jeez

It may be 2009, but SC is a 1998 game.



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Feb 26 2009, 4:42 am A_of-s_t Post #24

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Quote from name:Richard Nixons Head
Quote from IskatuMesk
What the fuck is with every sc player here and at CC/SA having the shittiest internet ever? Why is it only like 3 people total I know of can host games without problems? Get a real ISP and stop failing, jeez

It may be 2009, but SC is a 1998 game.
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Feb 26 2009, 6:34 am IskatuMesk Post #25

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Quote from name:Richard Nixons Head
Quote from IskatuMesk
What the fuck is with every sc player here and at CC/SA having the shittiest internet ever? Why is it only like 3 people total I know of can host games without problems? Get a real ISP and stop failing, jeez

It may be 2009, but SC is a 1998 game.

That's even less of an excuse. Your logic needs fixing.

Also you're using a router for fucking 56k. There's another problem.

I pay for 10mbit broadband and I haven't worked a day in my life. If I can do it, so can you.

Otherwise you should give up the internet.

There is simply no excuse for still using 56k unless you live in the outback and ADSL/Cable aren't provided. There simply is just no excuse. Even a horrible, braindead isp like Comcast is still widely accessible in hick land, and up in canada we actually have a good ISP called Shaw. The most expensive internet they have, the one I'm paying for, is Extreme and that's like 56 CAD a month or less, I'd have to check. They have much, much cheaper services for people just like you. Except I got a free month and 6 months of half payment just for ordering it - AND a free modem. Come on. You're just being lazy.

If you're too lazy to get a real internet then you seriously need to reconsider your place in a modding community where downloading large files is commonday.

As for everyone else who can't figure out port forwarding, I was certain Ricky made a tutorial for that somewhere... I'll ask him about it. If he did, I'll link it here, and there will be no further excuses for anyone not using 56k to not be able to host games. Then I can berate all of you. *rubs hands*

loledits

And yes this is a pretty regular subject for me because people at FF and SS constantly whined about not being able to host. On FF we had the odd person using 56k and their lag made games unplayable. Do people like me a favor and don't ever play games online if you have a shitty internet. It ruins the experience for everyone else.

(And yes, 56k is NOT enough for starcraft. It lags. I know. I played SC on 56k myself a looong time ago.)

and this name changing business is fucking ridiculous. I don't know who the hell any of you are.

Post has been edited 6 time(s), last time on Feb 26 2009, 6:52 am by IskatuMesk.



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Feb 26 2009, 8:11 am Syphon Post #26



Quote from IskatuMesk
Quote from name:Richard Nixons Head
Quote from IskatuMesk
What the fuck is with every sc player here and at CC/SA having the shittiest internet ever? Why is it only like 3 people total I know of can host games without problems? Get a real ISP and stop failing, jeez

It may be 2009, but SC is a 1998 game.

That's even less of an excuse. Your logic needs fixing.

My logic: It's a highly outdated game people tend to play on highly outdated machines, with highly outdated connections. It is illogical to expect them to upgrade only one aspect of their activities with a computer, as they continue to play StarCraft. When people can handle it, they will typically simply move onto bigger and better games, the ones that actually require fast connections and shiny new computers, therefore, it is ordinary that a small minority of SC players DO have fast connections and shiny new computers, as compared to the vast majority that would prefer something else, but are stuck with SC.

Your logic needs fixing.



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Feb 26 2009, 5:22 pm IskatuMesk Post #27

Lord of the Locker Room

... Wow, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

I remember why I don't post here often.



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Feb 26 2009, 6:33 pm bajadulce Post #28



Alright new member. And a good addition too.

@ ISP
Well I for one used to have the worst internet ever for about 2 years there. I was getting free internet via my cell phone :) before the "g3" days or whatever. I also used to play Diablo2 (pre 1.07) as a hardcore sorceress on AOL on a 300mhz comp! Beat that for insanity! Btw, that's where I came up with my name bajadulce. I needed something feminine sounding for a sorcie. My Necro was "DelSangre" and my Barb "Rambito". My Necro was the only char that ever made it to hell tho because of such a shitty connection. Maybe we played a game together seeing as there were very very few Hardcore Hell players. Maybe 20 total on USWest any given night. Queen Psycho being the highest @ lvl88 on our realm. :) Anywho.. I have a cheap comcast DSL service now only because my wife needs it for work. But I don't see a problem with a 56K modem for Starcraft if the service is decent.

I went through all the steps for port forwarding to be configured properly on our network awhile back and it was what kept me from hosting games etc. Somewhere down the line our router got reset, my laptop got reformatted, or who knows what. So it ain't right now. So I just go into the other room whenever I want to play online and just unplug a few wires and bypass the router. Something you might try as well. ...unless of course your tapping into your neighbors Wifi :)



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Feb 26 2009, 6:36 pm IskatuMesk Post #29

Lord of the Locker Room

I can beat that, Baja. I played warcraft 3 on a 100 mhz compaq. Same with d2. I used that piece of shit well into the pentium 4 years. That was also with 56k. By modern standards, my X2 6000 right now is very grossly outdated. But no one is using a 1998 computer in 2009. Many people do use outdated computers but nothing on that scale.

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I was getting free internet via my cell phone

That is hilarious though.



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Feb 26 2009, 7:33 pm bajadulce Post #30



Quote from IskatuMesk
But no one is using a 1998 computer in 2009. Many people do use outdated computers but nothing on that scale.
True. I remember not too long ago grabbing p3 computers ppl threw away at our local landfill. I just couldn't help it and would grab a few, take them home and then build a comp from bits and pieces of the best devices. I would then give them away to my friends with SCraft installed to get them into computers and gaming. Now, a lot of the junked comps go to foreign lands, but that's how fast the computer has evolved tho.

Funny side note:
One of the computers I rummaged just happen to be thrown away from a local lawyer's office. The hard drive still had all of his clients personal information as well as a nice porn directory and internet history. So that was kinda amusing. :)



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Feb 27 2009, 1:45 am A_of-s_t Post #31

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I play SC on AOL with 4kb download speed and I barely lag. Beat that fucking shit.



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Feb 27 2009, 2:22 am bajadulce Post #32



I'll try.

In 1989 I remember playing Leisure Suit Larry in my "computer" drafting class. After hours of course. We had to load up floppy diskettes to get to the next level. The entire game was maybe 1mb, but took like 7 floppies... Internet didn't exist.

In junior highschool (1978 or 1979) I remember staying up all night with a buddy to see what would happen when we reached 999 points in space invaders on his Atari. It went back to 0. :)

I remember seeing the first ever video game as a kid. Maybe I was 6 or 7? circa 1972. I remember it like it was yesterday. It was at the bowling alley. The video game was one of those glass table type games you might have seen like pacman etc. The screen was monotone green and the name of the game was PONG. :)



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Feb 27 2009, 3:38 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #33

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Quote from bajadulce
Funny side note:
One of the computers I rummaged just happen to be thrown away from a local lawyer's office. The hard drive still had all of his clients personal information as well as a nice porn directory and internet history. So that was kinda amusing. :)
LOL. Someone's been working very effectively.



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Feb 27 2009, 3:44 am A_of-s_t Post #34

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Quote from O)FaRTy1billion[MM]
Quote from bajadulce
Funny side note:
One of the computers I rummaged just happen to be thrown away from a local lawyer's office. The hard drive still had all of his clients personal information as well as a nice porn directory and internet history. So that was kinda amusing. :)
LOL. Someone's been working very effectively.
More productive than being a lawyer. ZING.



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Feb 27 2009, 2:53 pm Forsaken Archer Post #35



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Mesk, you really are insane.

I'm lucky if I have enough spend money from what is probably going to be a minimum wage job. I'll be surprised if the gas money alone from driving there and back doesn't eat most of it up. I'd be getting a second internet connection just for SC, nothing else, how much do you want me to spend? I'd only be using it when playing SC, and my normal routed internet for everything else.

I'd love if my router allowed port forwarding to work. But it doesn't. I'd love if I could afford to get myself a broadband for everything connection so that I wouldn't have to get that damn 56k just for SC. I can't.
I'd like to say something here.
You are talking about getting another phone line with another 56k connection. You could easily fund a dsl line with that money. Use that instead of the first 56k connection as well and you'd be saving money. Get your parents to transfer what they are paying for 56k to pay some of the dsl line if you want to save a few dollars.



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Feb 27 2009, 5:05 pm Excalibur Post #36

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Mesk, you really are insane.

I'm lucky if I have enough spend money from what is probably going to be a minimum wage job. I'll be surprised if the gas money alone from driving there and back doesn't eat most of it up. I'd be getting a second internet connection just for SC, nothing else, how much do you want me to spend? I'd only be using it when playing SC, and my normal routed internet for everything else.

I'd love if my router allowed port forwarding to work. But it doesn't. I'd love if I could afford to get myself a broadband for everything connection so that I wouldn't have to get that damn 56k just for SC. I can't.
I'd like to say something here.
You are talking about getting another phone line with another 56k connection. You could easily fund a dsl line with that money. Use that instead of the first 56k connection as well and you'd be saving money. Get your parents to transfer what they are paying for 56k to pay some of the dsl line if you want to save a few dollars.
We have DSL, but its routed so they can use their PC and laptop on it as well. My computer is nowhere near the DSL modem, and so I cannot bypass it even for mod nights. They refuse to get a second DSL line. The only solution is for me to get my own 56k line. Assuming I can pay for it that is.




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Feb 27 2009, 6:40 pm Syphon Post #37



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Quote from name:Andrew Jackson
Mesk, you really are insane.

I'm lucky if I have enough spend money from what is probably going to be a minimum wage job. I'll be surprised if the gas money alone from driving there and back doesn't eat most of it up. I'd be getting a second internet connection just for SC, nothing else, how much do you want me to spend? I'd only be using it when playing SC, and my normal routed internet for everything else.

I'd love if my router allowed port forwarding to work. But it doesn't. I'd love if I could afford to get myself a broadband for everything connection so that I wouldn't have to get that damn 56k just for SC. I can't.
I'd like to say something here.
You are talking about getting another phone line with another 56k connection. You could easily fund a dsl line with that money. Use that instead of the first 56k connection as well and you'd be saving money. Get your parents to transfer what they are paying for 56k to pay some of the dsl line if you want to save a few dollars.
We have DSL, but its routed so they can use their PC and laptop on it as well. My computer is nowhere near the DSL modem, and so I cannot bypass it even for mod nights. They refuse to get a second DSL line. The only solution is for me to get my own 56k line. Assuming I can pay for it that is.

Get a really long ethernet cable?

The router in my house is located next to my computer, and connected to computers on every floor of my house. One uses a 100 ft. cable that goes into the attic.



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Feb 27 2009, 6:41 pm Syphon Post #38



Quote from IskatuMesk
... Wow, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

I remember why I don't post here often.

I don't see you (attempting to) refut(e/ing) that logic at all, merely throwing up ad hominems.



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Feb 27 2009, 10:29 pm Excalibur Post #39

The sword and the faith

Quote from name:Richard Nixons Head
Quote from name:Andrew Jackson
Quote from name:isolatedpurity
Quote from name:Andrew Jackson
Mesk, you really are insane.

I'm lucky if I have enough spend money from what is probably going to be a minimum wage job. I'll be surprised if the gas money alone from driving there and back doesn't eat most of it up. I'd be getting a second internet connection just for SC, nothing else, how much do you want me to spend? I'd only be using it when playing SC, and my normal routed internet for everything else.

I'd love if my router allowed port forwarding to work. But it doesn't. I'd love if I could afford to get myself a broadband for everything connection so that I wouldn't have to get that damn 56k just for SC. I can't.
I'd like to say something here.
You are talking about getting another phone line with another 56k connection. You could easily fund a dsl line with that money. Use that instead of the first 56k connection as well and you'd be saving money. Get your parents to transfer what they are paying for 56k to pay some of the dsl line if you want to save a few dollars.
We have DSL, but its routed so they can use their PC and laptop on it as well. My computer is nowhere near the DSL modem, and so I cannot bypass it even for mod nights. They refuse to get a second DSL line. The only solution is for me to get my own 56k line. Assuming I can pay for it that is.

Get a really long ethernet cable?

The router in my house is located next to my computer, and connected to computers on every floor of my house. One uses a 100 ft. cable that goes into the attic.
No I don't and if I tried it my mother would kill me.

Guys, believe me when I say no one loves Mod Night more than me, I'm willing to bet my life on that point. I create maps for it, maps that serve no other purpose then mod night. I've created mods the day of in a feverish haste just to give everyone something interesting to play rather than whatever mod we were going to play for the tenth time. There were nights when I was the only one who was planning to go and I got on AIM, MSN, the shoutbox, and did everything in my power to get enough people together to make it work.

Take all that effort, times ten, and that's how hard I've worked to get my port forwarding to work, to get access to a computer that can be main-lined into the modem and play SC on it. I have tried every compromise with the people in the house and the placement of my computer setup. And it just hasn't worked.

I'm sorry that that's the case, because I miss mod nights a lot. My only solution would involve everyone getting hamachi and even then we'd need teamspeak or vent to make it easier. I'm willing to do things like that but I don't think anyone else is. I've given it my best and there is simply no more I can do.




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Feb 28 2009, 12:52 pm IskatuMesk Post #40

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Quote from name:Richard Nixons Head
Quote from IskatuMesk
... Wow, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

I remember why I don't post here often.

I don't see you (attempting to) refut(e/ing) that logic at all, merely throwing up ad hominems.

Why would I attempt to refute logic that claims the majority of sc players are still using computers from 1998 and 56k? Clearly you have defeated me. I concede.

Oh, and I don't just have an ethernet cable running across my house. I also have the Cable itself running across the house.



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