Programs
Dec 28 2008, 5:41 am
By: Lord Malvanis  

Dec 28 2008, 5:41 am Lord Malvanis Post #1



I found out that you can save notepad files as .dll to make program extensions, same for .mpq and .exe and probably every extension possible. So, are there any free tutorials to school in program design, at least to make simple things for someone under beginner?



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Dec 28 2008, 5:54 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #2

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Uh. If you give it the extension it will appear to be that filetype but not work... There is no reasonable way to make a program in notepad simply by saving it as .exe.



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Dec 28 2008, 5:55 am Lord Malvanis Post #3



What about .dll? and a tutorial?



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Dec 28 2008, 5:57 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #4

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Same applies to dll and any binary file...



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Dec 28 2008, 6:08 am DT_Battlekruser Post #5



Quote from O)FaRTy1billion[MM]
Uh. If you give it the extension it will appear to be that filetype but not work... There is no reasonable way to make a program in notepad simply by saving it as .exe.

If you're really clever, could you write in assembly using alt escape sequences? :P

Actually, nix that, if I remember, Notepad saves all strange space-y bytes like 0x00 and 0x01 as 0x20.




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Dec 28 2008, 6:23 am Lord Malvanis Post #6



Okay, So I need a special word editor for that coding stuff?
And once again..tutorial please. (Sorry to be pushy but I can't leave my grandmas till morning and I really want something to occupy me because I don't have any games on her comp)



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Dec 28 2008, 6:26 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #7

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Quote from O)FaRTy1billion[MM]
Uh. If you give it the extension it will appear to be that filetype but not work... There is no reasonable way to make a program in notepad simply by saving it as .exe.

If you're really clever, could you write in assembly using alt escape sequences? :P

Actually, nix that, if I remember, Notepad saves all strange space-y bytes like 0x00 and 0x01 as 0x20.
0x01 works...? The only thing I know of that appears to be a space is 0x00, and I've never tried saving it.
Also Alt codes don't let you do anything before 31.. except 9.

Quote from Lord Malvanis
Okay, So I need a special word editor for that coding stuff?
And once again..tutorial please. (Sorry to be pushy but I can't leave my grandmas till morning and I really want something to occupy me because I don't have any games on her comp)
Maybe a hexeditor, but it is really inefficient and wouldn't get you very far unless you want to do one byte at a time and learn how it works completely.

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Dec 28 2008, 6:33 am Lord Malvanis Post #8



Okay, I'm going to give exactly what I want:
-An easy editor for a beginner to do this stuff
-A Tutorial!
-Any other helpful information

Thanks in advance if you can provide any of this

And I would sleep but my allergies go off like hell.
I can't sleep with itchy eyes and a runny nose.



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Dec 28 2008, 6:38 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #9

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A tutorial for what, specifically? It is very inefficient and probably really difficult (if not almost impossible) to write any binary file (a program, an mpq, etc.) in notepad.



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Dec 28 2008, 6:41 am Lord Malvanis Post #10



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A easy editor to use.
- Meaning something besides notepad.
And for a tutorial, something a person with knowledge of a computer could read to at the least get started.



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Dec 28 2008, 6:43 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #11

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Get started with what? Programming? You were talking about making .dlls, .mpqs, programs, and any file extension with notepad, and then asking for a tutorial.

Also, did you try google?



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Dec 28 2008, 6:46 am Lord Malvanis Post #12



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So, are there any free tutorials to school in program design, at least to make simple things for someone under beginner?
Quoted from first post.



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Dec 28 2008, 6:47 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #13

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Also, did you try google?

And what language? What specifically are you looking for?



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Dec 28 2008, 6:52 am Lord Malvanis Post #14



English, nothing korean or anything else, I only read/speak english.
And I thought I could get an answer faster on forums than 200 pages of google



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Dec 28 2008, 6:56 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #15

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..? What programming language.

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What specifically are you looking for?




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Dec 28 2008, 6:59 am Lord Malvanis Post #16



Whatever language that will get someone extreamly noob onto a good start.
As I said:
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My Level: -50 Noob




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Dec 28 2008, 7:03 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #17

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It depends on what you want to do or where you want to go with it... Also some compilers (and thus the languages they use) are free and others are not.



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Dec 28 2008, 7:16 am Lord Malvanis Post #18



Well, I'd like to start with very simple programs..I don't have something exact but something you know, what you would use everyday on a computer. A word program of some sort, a program that runs other programs, modding tools (Maybe not), a picture viewer, you know..simple.

As for language, I would take any suggestion you think would be easy.

Note: By modding tools I mean like to add cheats to something (like minesweeper..) not SC modding tools

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Dec 28 2008, 7:32 am BiOAtK Post #19



lol.
Well, I encourage you to learn a language, but I'd appreciate if you were a little less... ah, ignorant before you started asking questions. I understand that you need to ask questions that seem a little stupid (I did myself, of course) but I mean, honestly, you need to at least know what a language is.



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Dec 28 2008, 7:34 am Lord Malvanis Post #20



The only languages I know are C and C++, but I only know those from seeing people talk about them.
I have no experience working with them



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