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[2015-8-27. : 3:32 am]
Oh_Man -- Lamarckism is not correct.
[2015-8-27. : 3:31 am]
Oh_Man -- You're thinking of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism
[2015-8-27. : 3:31 am]
jjf28 -- Oh_Man
Oh_Man shouted: and it occurs during the combination of the sperm and the egg, not DURING an individual's life
sure it could, all their genetic material could spontaneously change in the same way, thus forming a chicken :kame:
[2015-8-27. : 3:31 am]
sakuckoinvius -- so, people who can survive extreme weather, or specific condition with training is mutation or evolution to you ?
[2015-8-27. : 3:30 am]
Oh_Man -- and it occurs during the combination of the sperm and the egg, not DURING an individual's life
[2015-8-27. : 3:30 am]
Oh_Man -- evolution is random mutation combined with natural selection
[2015-8-27. : 3:30 am]
Oh_Man -- yeah and then that would be mutation, not evolution
[2015-8-27. : 3:29 am]
jjf28 -- individuals could spontaneously have every cell undergo a random mutation; course that's ridiculously rediculous :)
[2015-8-27. : 3:29 am]
Oh_Man -- I won't change species in my life time. I was born homo sapien and I will die homo sapien
[2015-8-27. : 3:29 am]
sakuckoinvius -- every single species changes, but for that to happen, every individual does change a little. It's like saying "continents move but not my house"
[2015-8-27. : 3:29 am]
Oh_Man -- yeah, over the course of many generations. An individual doesn't evolve.
[2015-8-27. : 3:28 am]
Oh_Man -- species evolve
[2015-8-27. : 3:28 am]
sakuckoinvius -- life is known to adapt itself to the condition it's put into...
[2015-8-27. : 3:28 am]
Oh_Man -- individuals don't evolve
[2015-8-27. : 3:27 am]
sakuckoinvius -- Well, yeah things can evolve during a lifetime... so his theory is all wrong o.O
[2015-8-27. : 3:25 am]
sakuckoinvius -- not every chicken came from an egg... proof: science ^-^
[2015-8-27. : 3:25 am]
Oh_Man -- sakuckoinvius
sakuckoinvius shouted: Well, it was sort of obvious though... Eggs can't be without chicken, although chicken can be without eggs
Well, it wasn't THAT obvious. Every chicken came from an egg, and every egg came from a chicken. Hence the paradox.
[2015-8-27. : 3:24 am]
Oh_Man -- "Since an animal does not evolve into another species during its lifetime, and since organisms can fail to breed true, it is biologically necessary that the chicken egg came first."
[2015-8-27. : 3:23 am]
sakuckoinvius -- Well, it was sort of obvious though... Eggs can't be without chicken, although chicken can be without eggs
[2015-8-27. : 3:23 am]
Oh_Man -- I find it so cool that evolution answered the chicken and the egg problem.
[2015-8-27. : 3:20 am]
sakuckoinvius -- gawd that's nuts... because it had attachment before and I remade it without cuz I thought it would be easier...
[2015-8-27. : 3:19 am]
Oh_Man -- try changing from player 1 to all players
[2015-8-27. : 3:19 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- But that is just a guess, I'm not sure with stand-alone addons
[2015-8-27. : 3:19 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think you have to give the parent building
[2015-8-27. : 3:19 am]
Oh_Man -- I think addons only change player if a building attaches to them?
[2015-8-27. : 3:18 am]
Oh_Man -- uh i think addons have weird properties like that
[2015-8-27. : 3:18 am]
sakuckoinvius -- Hello ya'll, it's me again... I'm really getting annoyed by some random trigger that doesn't work... maybe someone can highlight me. Trigger is: Player 1 to 6 Condition: Bring Protoss Arbiter to Location1 Action: Give unit at location (Player 1's terran covert ops given to player 7) & preservetrigger. any guesses why covert ops remain to player 1?
[2015-8-27. : 3:17 am]
Oh_Man -- Kind of like the World Turtle.
[2015-8-27. : 3:17 am]
Oh_Man -- And from that assumption you can build a solid moral theory.
[2015-8-27. : 3:16 am]
Oh_Man -- I think it's the same as epistemology's core problems. You can't keep asking why ad infinitum. Eventually at some point you have to have an assumption. Unsupported by anything.
[2015-8-27. : 3:15 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: FaRTy1billion Sounds like something an evil person would say.
was what I was going for
[2015-8-27. : 3:15 am]
jjf28 -- at least in math
[2015-8-27. : 3:15 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I wasn't saying morality is bad, I was mostly joking ;o
[2015-8-27. : 3:15 am]
jjf28 -- crap, surd actually has a definition as irrational xD
[2015-8-27. : 3:14 am]
Oh_Man -- the endless cycle of prey and predator, hunter or hunted, the endless competition of species - that is what we came from
[2015-8-27. : 3:14 am]
jjf28 -- what? it's totally surd
[2015-8-27. : 3:14 am]
Oh_Man -- whenever I think of what a non-moral system would look like I just like at nature itself
[2015-8-27. : 3:14 am]
Oh_Man -- Say what you will about the absurdity of morality, but it seems societies need it, or else we'd have Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan.
[2015-8-27. : 3:13 am]
jjf28 -- RIP xxx
[2015-8-27. : 3:13 am]
Oh_Man -- ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-8-27. : 3:12 am]
jjf28 -- spoilers
[2015-8-27. : 3:12 am]
Oh_Man -- orphans do clean up on bodies, and assassinate ppl for him
[2015-8-27. : 3:12 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Maybe like deforesting to build parking lots, I don't know
[2015-8-27. : 3:12 am]
Oh_Man -- like Varys' lil spiders in Game of Thronesthe
[2015-8-27. : 3:12 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm trying to think of more ridiculous and sinister things to have the orphans doing, but I'm too lazy to think of something.
[2015-8-27. : 3:11 am]
jjf28 -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: Just because I thought to put orphans to good use as unpaid employees
there is nothing more heinous than the idleness of our youth ~some child-labor guy in fable
[2015-8-27. : 3:11 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- It's testing around! :)'s friend
[2015-8-27. : 3:10 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Who's Deactivated? Are they new?
[2015-8-27. : 3:09 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- God I hate orphans.
[2015-8-27. : 3:09 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Just because I thought to put orphans to good use as unpaid employees
[2015-8-27. : 3:08 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- :farty:
[2015-8-27. : 3:08 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: morals are dumb. No matter how righteous or justified you think you might be, someone is always going to take issue and say you're evil.
Sounds like something an evil person would say.
[2015-8-27. : 3:08 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- morals are dumb. No matter how righteous or justified you think you might be, someone is always going to take issue and say you're evil.
[2015-8-27. : 3:07 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Just do traceroute samples over time and track changes in the first few hops.
[2015-8-27. : 3:05 am]
jjf28 -- so they're upgrading internet in my area; these short, random outages make me think they have 0 redundancy; hey maybe I could use them to map their infrastructure for... reasons...
[2015-8-27. : 3:04 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think it was like infant vs. twenty-something, but I don't really remember
[2015-8-27. : 3:04 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Yeah, what a scrub, right? XD
[2015-8-27. : 3:03 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Though people joked about when one of the choices was like a twenty-something, like "If he can't save himself at that age then there is no saving him"
[2015-8-27. : 3:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Like if you have to survive, an infant or an elderly person is going to be a hindrance and likely die compared to the other choice.
[2015-8-27. : 3:01 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- WHERE'S YOUR MORALITY NOW
[2015-8-27. : 3:01 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Actually, yeah, fuck it, I'll go down with them, too.
[2015-8-27. : 3:00 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Also, why can't I save neither of them. Maybe I hate people.
[2015-8-27. : 3:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- The most popular answers tended towards save whoever is younger, unless they are under roughly 5
[2015-8-27. : 3:00 am]
jjf28 -- don't forget your survivors guilt
[2015-8-27. : 2:59 am]
Oh_Man -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: Oh_Man oh, I remember a thing like that in a psychology class I took. It was like you're on a sinking boat and the two other passengers can't swim but you can so you can only save one, and then it went through various combinations.. I don't remember the exact ones, but it was things like old man/toddler, infant/teenager
yeah that sounds vaguely familiar too
[2015-8-27. : 2:59 am]
Oh_Man -- and my view on why that is is because morality doesn't actually exist - its just a construct created by sapient things
[2015-8-27. : 2:59 am]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Get a confidence interval on your choice, even.
[2015-8-27. : 2:59 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Oh_Man
Oh_Man shouted: i'd be looking at things like, well, these two people over here are really elderly, and this othre person is really young and has their whole life in front of them
oh, I remember a thing like that in a psychology class I took. It was like you're on a sinking boat and the two other passengers can't swim but you can so you can only save one, and then it went through various combinations.. I don't remember the exact ones, but it was things like old man/toddler, infant/teenager
[2015-8-27. : 2:59 am]
Oh_Man -- any attempt i've made to rationalise morality just breaks down at the primal level



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