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SEN & Maplantis
Jan 17 2008, 3:57 am
By: mikelat
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Jan 17 2008, 5:21 am mikelat Post #21



Quote from DT_Battlekruser
They are, indeed, two sites that ostensibly serve the same purpose. The fact remains that Maplantis was founded by a group of people (its founding memberbase) that were militantly opposed to SeN. However far from that the site has drifted, it still lives under the fact that its founding purpose was to crystallize a rift in the mapping community caused by LegacyWeapon and OSMAP. Though this is hardly it's purpose today, it still polarizes people with long memories, and I don't think anyone at all here has managed to keep a level head throughout.
This is the only part which I can really respond to. I'm not militantly apposed to SEN, thanks. I did after all spend 4 years here running it. If dwelling on memories is your reasoning then theres nothing I can do for you. I know thats likely not it since SEN fired you as an administrator but yet you seem to selectively forget that.

Quote from EcHo
I like SEN better than maplantis because Maplantis people seem to be stuck up with a dick in their ass thinking they are superior but yet does not even produce much maps. Same goes for SEN, but most of these people are retarded retards who also barely produces maps, but Maplantis was based off a community of elites from clan (U)Unknown while SEN was a map making community and mod by default.
I'm not a part of clan (U) and I guess I would call myself the main founder. So you can remove that (U) elites argument.

And the only time I have a dick up my ass is when Excalibur is horny :(



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Jan 17 2008, 5:22 am Moose Post #22

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Quote from DT_Battlekruser
Though this is hardly it's purpose today, it still polarizes people with long memories, and I don't think anyone at all here has managed to keep a level head throughout.
I'm not militantly apposed to SEN, thanks.
Yes, DTBK already told us that.




Jan 17 2008, 5:23 am A_of-s_t Post #23

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SEN was a map making community and mod by default.

SEN doesn't do either of those... so your arguement is pointless.



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Jan 17 2008, 5:26 am Excalibur Post #24

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Quote from EcHo
I like SEN better than maplantis because Maplantis people seem to be stuck up with a dick in their ass thinking they are superior but yet does not even produce much maps. Same goes for SEN, but most of these people are retarded retards who also barely produces maps, but Maplantis was based off a community of elites from clan (U)Unknown while SEN was a map making community and mod by default.
Stuck up is a matter of opinion. I find were being honest about the quality content we produce compared to other sites, not just SEN by the way.

And even then, mapping isnt my area specifically. Im a modder. And from what I can tell, SEN has most if not all in that area.\

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Jan 17 2008, 5:31 am Moose Post #25

We live in a society.

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SEN was a map making community and mod by default.

SEN doesn't do either of those... so your arguement is pointless.
http://www.staredit.net/?forum=9
Of course not. Everything in there was made at least 100 years ago.
http://www.staredit.net/?forum=17




Jan 17 2008, 5:34 am A_of-s_t Post #26

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Too bad they get as much attention as a 90 year old in a retirement home. But, let us steer the topic away from slander.



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Jan 17 2008, 6:14 am BlueFalcon Post #27



I moved to Maplantis because Staredit.net's "disappearance" and then reappearance and it not being the "Same" as it was before. :-(.

Anyways, "Arguing on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, in the end you're still retarded." *Adds gasoline at $10 a gallon to the fire.* (Yes, it's gas from da future... nifty huh?)



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Jan 17 2008, 6:25 am Ultraviolet Post #28



Quote from Yoshi da Sniper
Quote from Mini Moose 2707
Yeah, I did catch it before any harm was done. It's still a big "what if?" scenario.

Anyway, I wish we still had starcraftsoapopera.com hooked up. It would come in handy. :P
When its in public domain, you can't control it. I do my best to make sure things like these don't happen, but whats the solution? Not having a maps DB?

I'm not trying to create drama, I'm trying to answer an issue obviously people take too seriously.

The solution is not having OSMap -.-

As much as I love SEN, it's becoming a sad home. Most of the stuff going on here is jokes. I believe if we can hang on until SC2 our community may become revitalized (especially if Maplantis is down much longer), but that's a long way away. My.. 4? years at SEN have been fun, and I plan to stick around till the last.





Jan 17 2008, 6:25 am Moose Post #29

We live in a society.

I go away to code one small thing and this thread turns to shit. Stay on topic and stop the flaming. I deleted literally a dozen posts here.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 17 2008, 6:31 am by Mini Moose 2707.




Jan 17 2008, 6:27 am bajadulce Post #30



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... was a map making community and mod by default.
Actually neither Maplantis nor SEN were mod forums by default. Modding crept into both sites. SEN's early days in fact were almost anti-mod.

I can't speak for Clan[MM], but they definitely have had a lot to do w/ the resurgence of activity that was/is flourishing at Maplantis. Coupled w/a kickass database and a general no-nonsense forum, its no wonder that Maplantis has developed into the site where ppl go to discuss SCraft modding/mapping. Ya, Maplantis has their "mafia" and "null garbage" forums as well, but Tau has done well in keeping the "misc" stuff to a minimum. What appears to be missing most here at the new SEN, is however just that. Alot of spam and the overall missing quality of content. ...and a webmaster that seems to have lost interest disappearing for lengthy intervals.

What now? Maplantis has been "broken" for awhile now and I see more and more ppl migrating back here but somewhat reluctantly. How they are treated means a lot if this site wants to regenerate the enthusiasm that Maplantis has. SEN didn't do well in it's 2nd reincarnation. Will it ever be the greatness it was? How much more is left to "push" to the limit? Everything "mapping" seems discovered/and pushed. I think a synthesis of mapping and modding is about the only fresh thing that remains. Very few mods incorporate custom UMS maps/triggers. The recent modding tools such as Firegraft, DatEdit, BinEdit, SFlare's GRPEditor, offer stability and make modding so easy and avoid all the frustrations that once were. Maybe that's the ticket to a rejuvenated Community? BIGGER projects... go deep!



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Jan 17 2008, 6:57 am DT_Battlekruser Post #31



Now that I am getting engrossed in more and more advanced Swing, I should some day make a point to study the byte structure of various Starcraft files..



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Jan 17 2008, 8:07 pm Gerrard2060 Post #32



Real men use Maplantis. There is a lot of difference between both sites, you know, nobody is perfect, but both sites don't have the Anyways, you can hang out both in Maplantis and SEN, as long you wouldn't say "MAPLANTIS SUXCKX, SEN RULZ! SEN SUXCKX, MAPLANTIS RULZ! I think that is not very smart to say.



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Jan 17 2008, 8:15 pm Moose Post #33

We live in a society.

Quote from Gerrard2060
Real men use Maplantis. There is a lot of difference between both sites, you know, nobody is perfect, but both sites don't have the Anyways, you can hang out both in Maplantis and SEN, as long you wouldn't say "MAPLANTIS SUXCKX, SEN RULZ! SEN SUXCKX, MAPLANTIS RULZ! I think that is not very smart to say.
Yeah, you can't say one sucks but it's totally okay to say "Real men use Maplantis."




Jan 17 2008, 8:40 pm ClansAreForGays Post #34



What the fuck is so wrong in the sc world?

Fuck this, I'm jumping ship.




Jan 17 2008, 8:48 pm Sael Post #35



I'm really just weathering the storm till SC2 comes out and we have other things to do besides arguing about websites. While you all have been arguing in the past year or so, I've gotten intimate with Company of Heroes, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Crysis, Supreme Commander, Civilization 4, Battlefield 2, Lord of the Rings Online... that list continues on for some time. The smart thing to do here is to not reply (I won't after this, so you don't have to criticize me for being a hypocrite). After having perused dozens of these threads, it's fairly safe to claim that nobody gives a flying hoot, and nobody is going to change their mind, so why bother bickering? Unless you're an old man and bickering for the sake of sounding like a douche is fun to you, then please find something better to do.



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Jan 17 2008, 8:48 pm Twitch Post #36



Wow is this what the starcraft community is coming too?
On the remarks about without yoshi SEN wouldn't have competition,let me just say he was the orignal maker of this site so get your head out of your ass.Second even if he wasn't you have another decent site/forum called warboards.org .

On the remark by yoshi saying the only time he has a dick up his ass when excailber is horny,I thought he stuck it up voyagers.So maybe its moogle on you I don't know.(btw this is a since of humor yoshi so don't kill me lol)

On the remarks about OSMap lol if you hate OSMap then just don't talk about it or have anything to do with it that simple.

On the remarks of Clan (U) they are dead now so yeah Maplantis couldn't be based on them could they?

Finally I would say it is better to have more then one starcraft community because,you have the mature site and the fun yet immature site.Also you got all the 3rd party sites.

So I guess all in all im saying can't we just get over this and start map making again.This is another reason why Starcraft has been and will die.Is because of immature people who argue over nothing.

I guess DapperDan has taught me some things lol.



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Jan 17 2008, 9:07 pm Moose Post #37

We live in a society.

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On the remarks of Clan (U) they are dead now so yeah Maplantis couldn't be based on them could they?
You do realize Maplantis was founded before (U) died, right? Whether or not (U) is around at this current moment has no bearing on what Maplantis' founding was.




Jan 17 2008, 9:10 pm candle12345 Post #38



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What the fuck is so wrong in the sc world? Fuck this, I'm jumping ship.

Good riddance.

I'm a diehard SEN fan, and I'm gunna stay here til it's nothing but broken ASCII text.
This site gave me help when I was a wee mapper, and is still helping me greatly today.
I've found nothing wrong with the mapping sections, and I don't need a wiki or database. The regular forum members here are always on hand to answer my questions, usually a lot better than a wiki will.

Plus, who doesn't love the mineral system :D



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Jan 17 2008, 9:12 pm Twitch Post #39



Quote from Mini Moose 2707
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On the remarks of Clan (U) they are dead now so yeah Maplantis couldn't be based on them could they?
You do realize Maplantis was founded before (U) died, right? Whether or not (U) is around at this current moment has no bearing on what Maplantis' founding was.
Yes I do relize that but,I my point was meaning if it were at all based on clan(U) which I am sure it wasn't it can't be now :P.
The reason why Clan (U) went to Maplantis I think,is because Legacy was leader then and decided it would be good for maplantis and (U).(ofcourse don't quote me on that I am probably wrong)



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Jan 17 2008, 9:14 pm cheeze Post #40



You guys complain too much.



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