Trolls.
Also, the far right.
Also, the far left.
Also, the fact that you're exposed to people that are not your real-life friends. In real life, you can have differing ideologies and still be friends. You don't get so caught up on debating all the time IRL, but on the Internet, people debate in debate topics.
Win by luck, lose by skill.
Perhaps we should start a thread so we can argue about this too?
No that'd never go anywhere, it'd just turn into a flame thread.
What's the difference?
Also, as lil-inferno put it in a slightly relevant topic, some of us are like
this, while others of us are like
this. ;\
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We could argue about it, but Id doubt it would ever end.
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It would end if you people would ever realize that internet arguments do end.
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It ends when too many of the participants are dead.
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An interesting parable popped into my head following the statement that arguments do not end due to our various differances
What if a mathmatician was never taught the meaning of 0 (say a classic greek communicating with a mayan, pretend they both happen to speak hebrew)
for those unaware mayans discovered 0 before the greeksso the mayan does a simple equation 0+1, and asks the greek to check his work, the greek comes up with 0+1, 0 being a variable without existing numerical value, the mayan tells him that the answer is 1, to someone that understood there could be a non-value would understand zero was just defined to be without value, but for the greek he would simply be confused, deducing that the mayan was wrong, since to him, zero would have to add something to 1.
Big fun huh
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githubReached the top of StarCraft theory crafting 2:12 AM CST, August 2nd, 2014.
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No, that's wrong. If the greek finds that equation and sees the 0, he has the obligation to ask what it is instead of assuming it to be something else. Doing otherwise is simply asinine.
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he would not know it to be possible to be valueless, he might go on to be taught the meaning of 0, but the point is he is biased by his background
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githubReached the top of StarCraft theory crafting 2:12 AM CST, August 2nd, 2014.
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That's not being biased. That's being wrong. Unless, in an argument, you have different definitions of the word 'the', your point doesn't apply at all.
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in mathamatics a non-numerical symbol is considered a variable, unless defined, he was right by his background to make the assumption, you appear to have missed the parable entirely. We very often make assumptions about what a person means by a given statement, since taken out of the context of the writers life, it could have more than one possible meaning, especially when dealing with translations and cultural differances
- not a real example given it's obvious lack of logic, but comical
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githubReached the top of StarCraft theory crafting 2:12 AM CST, August 2nd, 2014.
Lol this quote holds true
"anyone smarter than you makes you feel challenged, anyone dumber than you then you'll find that their comments are useless"
arguments do end like when people stop posting on it or it gets ended in the chat but the problem here is that they will always find the light of day again.
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An interesting parable popped into my head following the statement that arguments do not end due to our various differances
What if a mathmatician was never taught the meaning of 0 (say a classic greek communicating with a mayan, pretend they both happen to speak hebrew)
for those unaware mayans discovered 0 before the greeksso the mayan does a simple equation 0+1, and asks the greek to check his work, the greek comes up with 0+1, 0 being a variable without existing numerical value, the mayan tells him that the answer is 1, to someone that understood there could be a non-value would understand zero was just defined to be without value, but for the greek he would simply be confused, deducing that the mayan was wrong, since to him, zero would have to add something to 1.
Big fun huh
The Greek wouldn't know what a variable is, or at least he wouldn't recognize a symbol as being one.
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tits
perhaps a poor choice of ethnicities
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githubReached the top of StarCraft theory crafting 2:12 AM CST, August 2nd, 2014.
Their words meant something different from the commonly accepted definition, but only if others point it out
This can sometimes be a valid objection, since common usage and academic definitions tend to differ. One example is "theory", which in science or mathematics has a much more rigorous definition than what is accepted common usage.
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The list was just common logical fallacies. Usually, if someone is resorting to ad hominem, red herring, personal attacks, or poisoning the well, then they've lost the argument. Some of the other ones (such as denying the antecedent) are considered valid logic by other people since they assume intuitively what sounds logical is logical.
As someone who has had formal training in formal and informal logic, it can be frustrating to argue with people who don't know how logic. Curiously, I've noticed that the less someone knows about something, the more the person seems to think they know about it. One example is medicine, where patients will eat up some nonsense on the internet about how healthful foods will cure cancer, thinking they're suddenly experts on the subject.
This is probably why logicians don't like debating about hot topics.
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Yay! Now I can read the studies on it.
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