Mhm... true that. I can honestly understand the new champs being OP at first, mostly due to lack of testing on their part, but the fact that the last few new champs have been automatically placed in the 6300 IP/However much RP range is stupid as shit. It A) makes so only the players with ridiculous amounts of 1) money (preferred by Riot) 2) Mass IP can play every new champion. B) makes everyone that can afford the champs love them, and those that can't hate them b/c they are ridiculously OP. and C) makes everyone regardless hate riot b/c they don't care about the playability of the game, only the amount of money they get from the retards that actually pay for every new champion with RP, and then insist on having all of their skins immediately after release.

Conclusion: FUCK RIOT, nuff said.

On a side note though, there is nothing making anyone pay to play, and it is ultimately free to play. Although, the mass amount of retards in the game, combined with the fact that riot doesn't listen to the players about who is OP and who is UP and who is actually just right, makes the game slightly less fun than it should be.

♫Make a list, check it twice, find out who aughtta be diced...♫
No, seriously, make a list of who you think is OP, and check their tier. Chances are they're in the top RP tier.

Garen - no, trynd - no, Olaf - yes, Irelia, LeBlanc, Akali, MF, and Shaco all yes... GO FIGURE.

I agree with Akali and Tyrn both being OP, but the rest are pretty easy to deal with.


OH HEY GUYS, GUESS WHAT. Theres going to be a new item coming out in the next few patches. Its going to allow the user to blink.

GUESS WHAT THEY'RE REMOVING. You guessed it.. FLASH!

This means that they user won't get an early Spell Pen, Attack speed, Move Speed, or any kind of bonus. I like this.

What do you mean by Akali being overpo... Oh, that's right, I suck
And nerf Garen and Twitch!

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What do you mean by Akali being overpo... Oh, that's right, I suck
And nerf Garen and Twitch!

They've nerfed him twice in two consecutive patches, not many other heroes can claim that.

Tryn is not OP, get a thornmail and stop playing Ashe.

And what the hell? They'll bring Port Key but not Codex?

Well Grasp is SUPPOSED to be Codex, but its not upgradeable.

Thats dumb

Twitch isn't OP at all, Oracle, nuff said. As for Garen, the only thing OP about him is his ult. It's bullshit when you take down a tank that has 1/4 to 1/3 hp left in one hit. It basically makes massing hp as a tank a bad idea, b/c the more hp you are missing the stronger his ult is against you. As for Trynd, his Unstoppable Rage is too long, other than that he is fine. Akali is uber OP. Irelia's healing hit thing is complete bs. It makes it near impossible to solo against her b/c you can't ever do dmg to her. LeBlanc isn't too horrible, MF is either hit or miss, and Shaco is just retarded, b/c I don't believe Oracle works against him? Correct me if I'm wrong...

Deathfire Grasp is better because it instead of upgrading it, it scales with AP. Also, deathfire grasp does % damage, meaning it's better late game.

Your comments regarding Garen are just stupid. His ultimate finishes all heroes off at the same percentage of hp, so while yes, more hp deals more damage in your case, having more hp also means he'll have to cut through more of your health before it gets to a critical point. Just because it deals damage based on health, doesn't mean you should stop stacking health as a tank. In fact, I'd rather Garen attempt to finish me off, as a tank, rather than my carry, so my carry will rape him instead of Garen raping my carry. Also, the bonus damage on Garen's attack is physical meaning if you're tanking properly, you should be able to negate a large portion of it because tanks usually stack armor and MR. The fact of the matter is, early game, and most of mid game, Garen's ultimate is dangerous to squishy heroes because with one Q + E combo, he can get you to low health and finish you off. Doing that to a tank during mid game, you'd be lucky for you to get him to half. His ultimate is not op, it's his array of skills synergizing with each other that rape you. If you're going to complain about Garen, complain about the right things at least.

Except Deathfire does like 36% damage when codex could easily do 80% of someones HP fully leveled.

Yeah, his spells do synergize way too well. I've seen a Garen with 200 Armor/MR tank 5 people and not die b/c of his dmg reducing spell and Guardian Angel. It was gay, nobody could hurt him at all, and he managed to kill 3/5 of the people he was tanking before his team mates showed up and finished the other two off It's just not right.

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Well Grasp is SUPPOSED to be Codex, but its not upgradeable.

And the more dead the target is the less damage it does.

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Yeah, his spells do synergize way too well. I've seen a Garen with 200 Armor/MR tank 5 people and not die b/c of his dmg reducing spell and Guardian Angel. It was gay, nobody could hurt him at all, and he managed to kill 3/5 of the people he was tanking before his team mates showed up and finished the other two off It's just not right.

The hell are you doing letting him get that fed?

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I will let an enemy Garen kill me four times in the first 7 minutes and then win my team the game as Kassadin.

Hi Gaiz. My summoner name is Daddywhoo.
Owned champs: Akali, Amumu, Ashe, Gangplank, Jax, Katarina, Kayle, Master Yi, Nunu, Pantheon, Sivir, Soraka, Twisted Fate, Warwick.

Nothing, he got maybe 2-3 kills early game. The problem was that we couldn't kill him at all, so he escaped every gank. It was a sad day...

Get moar cc.

That was half the problem, we didn't really have any. Also, IIRC, they had had a really good Morgana on their team.

Just raped with AD Annie with neki, racoon, and loveless.

@loveless: post the video on youtube and link it please