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Watch CAFG assemble her computer
Aug 28 2010, 12:13 am
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Aug 30 2010, 4:27 pm Azrael Post #41



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That's why I laugh when Ex says that building a computer is easy as making something with legos.
It really is, though. I built my current computer without any help or experience, and it turned out fine.
Same. I went on Newegg and bought a case plus a bunch of parts, they came, I put them together. Was pretty easy, and it's worked great ever since. It cost about $600 to put together, and hugely outperforms the $450 Compaq I had before this. It also air conditions my room because it runs so cool.




Aug 30 2010, 4:36 pm Devourer Post #42

Hello

Putting together my computer was easy as well. New mainboard, RAM, cpu, PSU... well yea, that's it. Most complicated was putting right stuff into the mainboard. HOWEVER: PRO TIP! Never turn on your computer when you are not sure that everything is connected right, especially at the mainboard. I guess this could cause, as dustin browder would state it, 'terrible terrible damage'... probably on both sides ;o



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Aug 30 2010, 8:15 pm Jack Post #43

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Quote from Devourer
Putting together my computer was easy as well. New mainboard, RAM, cpu, PSU... well yea, that's it. Most complicated was putting right stuff into the mainboard. HOWEVER: PRO TIP! Never turn on your computer when you are not sure that everything is connected right, especially at the mainboard. I guess this could cause, as dustin browder would state it, 'terrible terrible damage'... probably on both sides ;o
Did I ever tell you about when I blew up a hard drive? Literally, with smoke and stuff...issa cool story.



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Aug 30 2010, 11:01 pm ClansAreForGays Post #44



Everything seems t be working fine

...until ten minutes in to the power being on, then the screen loses signal, and the fans buzz super fast. The computer seems to still be running though. My hunch would be something with the video card.

If I can't fix it tonight, I'm gonna take it to the local computer store and probably spend around $100 having them re set everything up.

I officially regret not buying a pre-built.




Aug 31 2010, 12:51 am Azrael Post #45



You'd be better off buying a barebone kit rather than a pre-built. At that point it really is like building with LEGOs.




Aug 31 2010, 1:56 pm BlueWolf Post #46



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Everything seems t be working fine

...until ten minutes in to the power being on, then the screen loses signal, and the fans buzz super fast. The computer seems to still be running though. My hunch would be something with the video card.

If I can't fix it tonight, I'm gonna take it to the local computer store and probably spend around $100 having them re set everything up.

I officially regret not buying a pre-built.
I have to say that if you know you're a person with no patience, don't even bother trying to build your own rig. Try to fix the problem with trial and error, or w/e methods. Or just bother the hell out of ex. lol, ask him how many times I bothered him during my build :| I think my build took at least 2 months.



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Aug 31 2010, 2:16 pm BeDazed Post #47



Did your computer beep? If there is no beep, then there's something wrong with either your PSU, or your MOBO. Those two are the most commonly faulty computer parts.



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Sep 1 2010, 12:46 am Lanthanide Post #48



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Did your computer beep? If there is no beep, then there's something wrong with either your PSU, or your MOBO. Those two are the most commonly faulty computer parts.
To expand on this, the two most commonly faulty computer parts that show up as intermittent or hard-to-explain faults. Most other parts of your computer, if faulty, will generally have repeatable errors that show up quickly, or the computer won't work at all.



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Sep 1 2010, 1:31 am rockz Post #49

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my computer wouldn't start once, I had no idea why, so I took it out of the case, re assembled it out of the case and it booted fine. stuck it back in the case and it booted fine too. Must have been a short somewhere.+



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Sep 1 2010, 2:13 am poison_us Post #50

Back* from the grave

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Her computer got my attention, then I was like Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-





Sep 1 2010, 2:21 am Fire_Kame Post #51

wth is starcraft

oh fuck you totally did get me.




Sep 1 2010, 5:33 pm rockz Post #52

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Erm, no. PS/2 ports were invented in 1987, while USB is from 1996. The first USB standard, 1.0, had a 'full speed' of 12 Mbs. PS/2 are serial ports, and for a keyboard operate at 9600 bps. Mice might be faster, but it's still not going to be anywhere near USB speeds. Now whether you actually mean 'data speed' or 'responsiveness' I'm not sure, and the data rate for these peripherals is irrelevant because both PS/2 and USB are 'fast enough' so you do not see any issues. USB does use a shared bus so I guess you could potentially run into issues there.
Sorry, sorry, I found what I was looking for. PS/2 is better for keyboards due to the number of keys which can be pressed:
http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html
Features To Look For and Myths To Ignore

n-key Rollover (NKRO)
This is when you can press as many keys as you want at the same time, and all of them go through. This is similar to what some 'gaming keyboards' incorrectly market as "anti-ghosting", even though Logitech and Razer only apply it to the WASD cluster (more on what ghosting really means later). You might also hear the term where n is replaced with a number (i.e., 6-key rollover), which means that up to that number of keys can be pressed simultaneously. Note that only PS/2 keyboards can exhibit full n-key rollover. USB spec limits keyboards to 6 regular keys plus 4 modifiers (but remember, it's not guaranteed, it's just a maximum).

Ghosting
Ghosting is when you press two keys on the keyboard, and a 3rd key - which you didn't press - gets sent to the PC as well. This is very rarely seen on even the cheapest modern boards, because manufacturers have the habit of limiting the rollover so that ghost keys are always blocked.

Key Bouncing
All types of key switches - including rubber domes - do this. When you press a key, the switch "bounces" on and off very quickly as it sets into place. This causes keys to register multiple times for each press. Because of this, keyboards need to implement some sort of debouncing delay - so that once you press a key, the controller waits a certain amount of time before registering a keypress. As an example, Cherry MX switches need 5ms of debouncing time, while rubber domes need longer (exactly how long depends on their quality).

Polling Rates and Response Times
While it is very useful for mice, it's just about meaningless for keyboards. Let's assume for a minute that all switches have the 5ms debouncing time of Cherry MX switches (which is being very generous). Even if you had super human speed and reflexes, every single key would be delayed by at least that much. So really, any polling rate over 200Hz (at best) is absolutely useless, and nothing but market hype. It may even be a bit detrimental, because you'd be wasting CPU time polling the keyboard unneededly. And unlike USB keyboards, PS/2 boards aren't polled at all. They simply send the signal to the PC whenever they are ready to, which causes a hardware interrupt, forcing the CPU to register that keystroke.

PS/2 or USB?
PS/2 wins on three fronts: First, it supports full n-key rollover. Second, PS/2 keyboards aren't polled, but are completely interrupt based. And third, it is impossible for it to be delayed by the USB bus being used by other devices. There are two types of USB transfer modes - the interrupt transfer mode (USB polls keyboard, when key is sensed the USB controller sends the interrupt to the CPU), and the isochronous transfer mode, which reserves a certain amount of bandwidth for the keyboard with a guaranteed latency on the bus. Unfortunately, there are absolutely no keyboards made that use the latter, because special controllers would have to be used, thus making it cost prohibitive.

So if your keyboard supports both PS/2 and USB, and your PC has a PS/2 port, there's no reason not to use it.

I knew ps/2 was better, just didn't remember why. If you have to wonder why anyone would want to press more than 6 keys at a time, then it's obviously not for you. Personally, I wouldn't mind playing some 2 handed stepmania, with octuple jumps. I can't think of any games other than that where I would want to use more than 6 keys, but I do know my laptop can't handle lshift, z, down, right. It's really annoying when playing touhou.



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Sep 2 2010, 12:20 am ClansAreForGays Post #53



Getting it 'diagnosed' now for $75...




Sep 2 2010, 2:59 am rockz Post #54

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That's more expensive than a car inspection.



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Sep 3 2010, 2:14 am ClansAreForGays Post #55



turns out the video card is junk, calling the warranty in on that one...

The real problem is the god dam Win7 64bit OS itself. It seemed to install fine, and loads to the desktop normally, but if I try to run internet explorer, or any thing other than browse through my files in windows explorer - it just looks at me like I'm a retard. I bought the 'OEM' version of windows 7 for cheaper, does that have anything to do with this?




Sep 3 2010, 3:11 am Jack Post #56

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OEM versions of Windows 7 are identical to Full License Retail versions except for the following:

- OEM versions do not offer any free Microsoft direct support from Microsoft support personnel

- OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install and activate it on

- OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard

- OEM versions cannot be used to directly upgrade from an older Windows operating system

So if that OEM version you bought is previously unused, you're fine. But if it's pre-used, it won't work on anything except the first motherboard it was installed on.



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Sep 3 2010, 3:15 am rockz Post #57

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No. windows 7 works fine for millions of people, and you are a retard for trying to run internet explorer, but we all have to be a little retarded until we can download firefox. Anthropomorphism doesn't help us diagnose your problem either. What's task manager say? How are you even doing this if your video card is broken?



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Sep 4 2010, 12:09 am ClansAreForGays Post #58



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...until ten minutes in to the power being on, then the screen loses signal, and the fans buzz super fast. The computer seems to still be running though. My hunch would be something with the video card.

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windows 7 works fine for millions of people, and you are a retard for trying to run internet explorer, but we all have to be a little retarded until we can download firefox.
You think I want to use that shit? I just wanted to use it to DL firefox. Obviously I can just transfer firefox via usb, but if I can't even run IE after a clean install, it's probably just a symptom of a much larger problem.

I get an hour glass for about 2 seconds and then it acts like I never clicked it. I even had taskmanager up while clicking it, and it never popped up for a second under applications

I also really hate how I can't right-click the icon to bring up properties, and see where it's target is.




Sep 18 2010, 7:23 pm ClansAreForGays Post #59



I'm able to keep this thing on for an hour at a time now, and im on it right now. look at this


(the gpu is actually at 115f right now)

see anything unusual?




Sep 18 2010, 8:40 pm NudeRaider Post #60

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Nope, the temperatures are all well within their limits. Except TMPIN2 but that's probably an erroneous readout since it deviates so much from the rest.




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