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Can The Matrix.. happen?
Mar 12 2009, 11:50 am
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Mar 13 2009, 2:50 am chuiu Post #21



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Moose must mean 60% of those 3500 inactive people. Nice accomplishment. But, hey, SEN isn't a particularly advanced simulation of the universe...
You know nothing.



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Mar 13 2009, 4:22 am stickynote Post #22



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with every post his name changes randomly from a list of names from the members list.
Ahha! That must be why I can't remember ever making some of the posts that have my username to the left of it!



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Mar 13 2009, 4:50 pm Kellimus Post #23



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I'd love it, Kellimus, if you would explain what the hell devolved means.

Jesus, it's the same as the dream topic. Yes, its remotely possible, but it doesn't matter since you won't suicide just to find out, there's no way to find out without having some archangel come down and tell you, and etc etc etc. What's the point?

Well, you know, the opposite of Evolved. Lol.



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Mar 13 2009, 8:44 pm Syphon Post #24



There's no such thing as an opposite of evolution. If you think there is, you have a flawed idea of what evolution is.

Evolution is not the increasing complexity of a species over time, for example.



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Mar 13 2009, 9:45 pm Hug A Zergling Post #25



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Exactly the way it happened? No. Because the fields violate the laws of thermodynamics. (The same energy is used to create and sustain humans, is perfectly recycled, and also powers the machines.)
But wouldn't we use less energy if we didn't move or something? or produce more energy then normal if an impulse to our brain said "Produce more heat"?



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Mar 13 2009, 9:46 pm Symmetry Post #26

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Exactly the way it happened? No. Because the fields violate the laws of thermodynamics. (The same energy is used to create and sustain humans, is perfectly recycled, and also powers the machines.)
But wouldn't we use less energy if we didn't move or something? or produce more energy then normal if an impulse to our brain said "Produce more heat"?

Energy goes into the body, an equal amount of energy comes out.



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Mar 14 2009, 1:52 am Falkoner Post #27



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Exactly the way it happened? No. Because the fields violate the laws of thermodynamics. (The same energy is used to create and sustain humans, is perfectly recycled, and also powers the machines.)

Yes, but I believe the idea behind that was that we take nutrients and calories and such and act as converters to heat, an energy that the machines are able to use.

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Looking back at The Matrix trilogy, can any of that possibly become reality? I was looking at the other topic we had.. is life a dream? It got me thinking of other possibilites. What do you guys think?

How do you know we aren't in the Matrix right now!??!



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Mar 14 2009, 3:34 am Hug A Zergling Post #28



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Exactly the way it happened? No. Because the fields violate the laws of thermodynamics. (The same energy is used to create and sustain humans, is perfectly recycled, and also powers the machines.)

Yes, but I believe the idea behind that was that we take nutrients and calories and such and act as converters to heat, an energy that the machines are able to use.

So it IS possible.



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Mar 14 2009, 5:40 am Riney Post #29

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Mar 14 2009, 6:44 am Syphon Post #30



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Exactly the way it happened? No. Because the fields violate the laws of thermodynamics. (The same energy is used to create and sustain humans, is perfectly recycled, and also powers the machines.)

Yes, but I believe the idea behind that was that we take nutrients and calories and such and act as converters to heat, an energy that the machines are able to use.

...Exactly. And that energy comes form no where. There's no sun on Earth, so plants can photosynthesise either. All energy is leaving the system through body heat in the humans, and electric output in the machines, assuming the dead bodies are perfectly recycled (impossible) and there is no actual input, so in the movies the machines are powered by nothing.



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Mar 14 2009, 7:24 am Falkoner Post #31



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...Exactly. And that energy comes form no where. There's no sun on Earth, so plants can photosynthesise either. All energy is leaving the system through body heat in the humans, and electric output in the machines, assuming the dead bodies are perfectly recycled (impossible) and there is no actual input, so in the movies the machines are powered by nothing.

Energy can't be created or destroyed, so if no energy is entering, then nothing is leaving either.



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Mar 14 2009, 9:50 am ejac1337 Post #32



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Looking back at The Matrix trilogy, can any of that possibly become reality? I was looking at the other topic we had.. is life a dream? It got me thinking of other possibilites. What do you guys think?
Well, I guess it would be possible for people to exist in a virtual reality. If you're refering to the fact that humans were used as batteries, not so much.

Also, if the sun were to be blacked out by the sky, life would probably still go on. Although life as we think of it is based off the sun, there are ecosystems which are based on volcanic vents and would not be adversly effected by it.



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Mar 14 2009, 9:54 am Doodan Post #33



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...Exactly. And that energy comes form no where. There's no sun on Earth, so plants can photosynthesise either. All energy is leaving the system through body heat in the humans, and electric output in the machines, assuming the dead bodies are perfectly recycled (impossible) and there is no actual input, so in the movies the machines are powered by nothing.

Energy can't be created or destroyed, so if no energy is entering, then nothing is leaving either.

The energy breaks down into less useful forms, such as heat energy, which cannot be reconverted into an equal amount of useful energy.



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Mar 14 2009, 4:18 pm InsolubleFluff Post #34



Howard K.
I've seen two posts from you, neither of which made sense.

The answer to this is ... No.
But what if... No.
But if we... No.
Imagine if... No.
Could it be true, if... No.
What if we are in the... No.

No there is not a Matrix and no, there's not going to be a matrix either. Likewise, life is not a dream.

As pointed out, this argument/ debate/ inquiry/ whatever 'this' is. Mirrors that of God vs no God. There isn't any supporting evidence for either case. (No god either BTW)



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Mar 14 2009, 5:58 pm Syphon Post #35



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...Exactly. And that energy comes form no where. There's no sun on Earth, so plants can photosynthesise either. All energy is leaving the system through body heat in the humans, and electric output in the machines, assuming the dead bodies are perfectly recycled (impossible) and there is no actual input, so in the movies the machines are powered by nothing.

Energy can't be created or destroyed, so if no energy is entering, then nothing is leaving either.

And /none can be used to power the machines/

Jeez.



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Mar 14 2009, 6:10 pm Falkoner Post #36



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The energy breaks down into less useful forms, such as heat energy, which cannot be reconverted into an equal amount of useful energy.

With our technology, but this is a futuristic society.

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And /none can be used to power the machines/

Obviously there was plenty of energy already on the Earth before the sky was blackened, that energy remains there.

Guys, I'm not trying to argue that it's logical, I'm just saying that it's not entirely ridiculous, although admittedly a better idea for the machines would have been to just use the Earth's core to power them, but then we wouldn't have an epic trilogy :P



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Mar 14 2009, 6:24 pm JaFF Post #37



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I'm just saying that it's not entirely ridiculous, although admittedly a better idea for the machines would have been to just use the Earth's core to power them, but then we wouldn't have an epic trilogy :P
It would be wiser to use thermonuclear reactors.

And the sequels sucked hard.



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Mar 14 2009, 6:54 pm NudeRaider Post #38

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

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The energy breaks down into less useful forms, such as heat energy, which cannot be reconverted into an equal amount of useful energy.

With our technology, but this is a futuristic society.
No, this is basic physical principle. Heat is the most chaotic state of energy. You must direct the energy somehow (=convert) to make it useable (drive a machine, etc.). Except if your application is heating, melting substances, or destroying ferromagnetic fields.

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And the sequels sucked hard.
No, just soft.




Mar 14 2009, 8:13 pm Hug A Zergling Post #39



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...Exactly. And that energy comes form no where. There's no sun on Earth, so plants can photosynthesise either. All energy is leaving the system through body heat in the humans, and electric output in the machines, assuming the dead bodies are perfectly recycled (impossible) and there is no actual input, so in the movies the machines are powered by nothing.

Energy can't be created or destroyed, so if no energy is entering, then nothing is leaving either.

And /none can be used to power the machines/

Jeez.
Dead bodies were being used to feed the humans, and the humans provided energy.



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Mar 15 2009, 1:05 am Riney Post #40

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Howard K.
I've seen two posts from you, neither of which made sense.

The answer to this is ... No.
But what if... No.
But if we... No.
Imagine if... No.
Could it be true, if... No.
What if we are in the... No.

No there is not a Matrix and no, there's not going to be a matrix either. Likewise, life is not a dream.

As pointed out, this argument/ debate/ inquiry/ whatever 'this' is. Mirrors that of God vs no God. There isn't any supporting evidence for either case. (No god either BTW)

How the hell do you know...agent... :ermm:



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