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Jan 5 2009, 9:58 am
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Jan 5 2009, 11:50 pm O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #21

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There's no such thing as right and wrong.
Right and Wrong exists...
What are they? Who decides them? Define them.



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Jan 5 2009, 11:50 pm WoAHorde Post #22



Quote from Kaias
Quote from Doodan
There's no such thing as right and wrong.
Wrong again.

When was he wrong before?



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Jan 6 2009, 12:11 am Lord Malvanis Post #23



[quotename isolatedpurity]Sometimes I can tell you what's going to happen in the next 5 minutes based on such. Who is going to say and do what. And that is a pretty fucked up feeling.[/quote]

Not to be off topic but I know how you feel because the other day I rewrote my entire essay about a past time in my life, and I had the story lead up to the events that would happen the next day. And they happened just how my story said they would, exactly. I found that to be pretty strange.

1. I don't know, I don't usually have bad dreams and I hate sleeping even though I have to.

2. I believe that there may be something and I believe that there may not be something. Think of the ghosts and demons that haunt us today, were they repelled from the otherworld or are they just the people that have died and were not sent anywhere?



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Jan 6 2009, 12:34 am Alzarath Post #24

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1. I think you can, you might die from such a shock that it would cease your heart. Or at least damage your heart.
2. MU (death note), meaning nothingness. You just die and are nowhere, you just disappear from reality and you don't see, smell, taste, etc.



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Jan 6 2009, 2:11 am Toothfariy Post #25



1) i suppose if you had a not so good heart and other body organs you could cause yourself to fall into cardiac arrest from a nightmare than accelrated your heart rate very high. Although its very unlikely to end up killing you because of how short REM sleep peorid is. I dont think it has ever happend, and if it has, how could we know for sure if it was because of a nightmare or just a crappy heart.

now to die because your subconcious brain shuts down your whole body because of a dream is not very likely. however i suppose in theory, its all possible, but i definatly think one has a much greater chance of being stuck by lightning than this.

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Any hard-core deja vu feelings, but you've never experienced the act before to even think you are just in a weird situation that happened to repeat itself? Sometimes I can tell you what's going to happen in the next 5 minutes based on such. Who is going to say and do what. And that is a pretty fucked up feeling.

Deja vu is when somthing registers twice in your mind to give the illusion that you've experienced it before. thats why when you think you dream about it, then it happens, you realize that you were there once, in a dream. but actually its the illusion that you were there once. you remeber that its deja vu thereafter because you your mind has created that illusion. dont get me wrong, i've had it too, but its not that you have psychic powers or anything like that.

i read all this in a newpaper. they even had this huge study done over it

2) i think our concious minds just cease after death. its like a long dreamless sleep. i believe this very strongly because i dont have any tangeable evidense to be convinced with any other belief. its the most logical event to happen



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Jan 6 2009, 2:29 am Forsaken Archer Post #26



It's not just about me when I can tell you what other people are going to say, outside of the normal course of predicting conversation based on reaction to whatever I say. I think there's something more to than the brain being schizo for life events. And I'm not saying it's psychic powers, but more hinting towards past lives or parallel existences. Maybe it's just some type of time distortion, we are all looping our lives endlessly without realizing it. The whole 'do it right the first time because you'll end up repeating it forever in every other life' scenario. And besides, I don't tend to dream about normal life. I have the fucked up dreams where I'm on an adventure and there's this evil crazy dog head rolling around trying to kill me when I enter this runic building type and then turns into a beautiful women, to which we flirt and fall in love in the moment of the danger we are in. Or cooking those hot cinnamon gummy bears in a pot, to which they come to life and run around burning the shit out of my house.



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Jan 6 2009, 2:43 am Dapperdan Post #27



Quote from name:isolatedpurity
It's not just about me when I can tell you what other people are going to say, outside of the normal course of predicting conversation based on reaction to whatever I say. I think there's something more to than the brain being schizo for life events. And I'm not saying it's psychic powers, but more hinting towards past lives or parallel existences. Maybe it's just some type of time distortion, we are all looping our lives endlessly without realizing it. The whole 'do it right the first time because you'll end up repeating it forever in every other life' scenario. And besides, I don't tend to dream about normal life. I have the fucked up dreams where I'm on an adventure and there's this evil crazy dog head rolling around trying to kill me when I enter this runic building type and then turns into a beautiful women, to which we flirt and fall in love in the moment of the danger we are in. Or cooking those hot cinnamon gummy bears in a pot, to which they come to life and run around burning the shit out of my house.

That's how most people's dreams are as far as I know.

Personally I believe that the most common reason for deja vu is because sometimes one side of our brain will register something milliseconds before the other side of the brain does. Then you feel like you have already experienced something previously that you really haven't.



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Jan 6 2009, 2:53 am Toothfariy Post #28



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Personally I believe that the most common reason for deja vu is because sometimes one side of our brain will register something milliseconds before the other side of the brain does. Then you feel like you have already experienced something previously that you really haven't.
thats the basic idea to why they say we experience deja vu.

i don't think that parallel universes exist or previous lives, but i think that it would be pretty nice to know that you will loop your life again. cause then you will have eternity to look forward to not just the next 60 some odd years.



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Jan 6 2009, 3:05 am ClansAreForGays Post #29



Scientists have been able to create the dejavu feeling on demand in a controlled setting by simply stimulating the area of your brain that tells you that you are recalling something. When you're brain remembers something that it's encountered before it fires neuron A, when it encounters something new it fires neuron B. Dejavu is simply both A and B firing at once (due to some misfire). That is why when it happens you are both aware that this is something new, but also familiar.

And now your brain has the learned response that when both A and B fire 'Magic' just happened. If you reacted strongly and favorable to the feeling it will likely happen more frequently because now it is associated with something good.




Jan 6 2009, 3:05 am NudeRaider Post #30

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

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2. I believe that there may be something and I believe that there may not be something. Think of the ghosts and demons that haunt us today, were they repelled from the otherworld or are they just the people that have died and were not sent anywhere?
If ever I was haunted by a ghost or demon maybe I would start believing in things like afterlife et cetera.




Jan 6 2009, 3:28 am Toothfariy Post #31



http://www.staredit.net/topic/5329/

seems people have already given this some thought



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Jan 6 2009, 3:44 am Dapperdan Post #32



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http://www.staredit.net/topic/5329/

seems people have already given this some thought

Yeah, like I said, there's been several topics about dying in your sleep around here. Not sure why it's so interesting.

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Jan 6 2009, 3:51 am Toothfariy Post #33



well i think its kinda interesting to think of senarios where you might die in a very odd ways, especially what some other people think up, like this topic for instance

though yeah i dont get why theres like 5 topics about it



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Jan 6 2009, 4:31 am Forsaken Archer Post #34



Quote from Dapperdan
Personally I believe that the most common reason for deja vu is because sometimes one side of our brain will register something milliseconds before the other side of the brain does. Then you feel like you have already experienced something previously that you really haven't.

Quote from ClansAreForGays
Scientists have been able to create the dejavu feeling on demand in a controlled setting by simply stimulating the area of your brain that tells you that you are recalling something. When you're brain remembers something that it's encountered before it fires neuron A, when it encounters something new it fires neuron B. Dejavu is simply both A and B firing at once (due to some misfire). That is why when it happens you are both aware that this is something new, but also familiar.

And now your brain has the learned response that when both A and B fire 'Magic' just happened. If you reacted strongly and favorable to the feeling it will likely happen more frequently because now it is associated with something good.
That may be the case... sometimes. I don't see that being logical for most cases as the situations are more of a string of events than just one small instance. Plus the whole post-deja vu-future thing...

And then we have Lord Malvanis bringing up ghosts, which me, my mom, and I'm sure my whole family believes in, due to certain encounters.
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Jan 6 2009, 5:16 am O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #35

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Eh. Usually when I have deja-vu it is when my mind is wandering when I should be doing something I normally do (such as sitting in class.)



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Jan 6 2009, 5:28 am Madroc Post #36



This is just like asking, how do you know that everyone else is just a robot fooling you? Or how do you know that your life is not just a soap opera for the klingons from planet borg?

50/50.



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Jan 6 2009, 12:20 pm Toothfariy Post #37



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This is just like asking, how do you know that everyone else is just a robot fooling you? Or how do you know that your life is not just a soap opera for the klingons from planet borg?

i've wondered that, cause sometimes it seems like everyone around you is all in on somthing that you are completely obilivious to and things sometimes work out very well, almost as if someone planned it that way



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Jan 6 2009, 12:26 pm Devourer Post #38

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Quote from Devourer
Quote from Doodan
There's no such thing as right and wrong.
Right and Wrong exists...
What are they? Who decides them? Define them.

Just if you are right or wrong.. maybe you stick to that without any reason...
well, for example, you cannot say that 1+1 = 3 is right. It's wrong. So you can't say that wrong and right doesn't exists...



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Jan 6 2009, 12:55 pm Toothfariy Post #39



you know right and wrong is one of those things in the english langeuage that gets taken the wrong way

right and wrong implys that its correct or incorrect, when the question that we're really trying to know is; does this have a satisfying level of ethical value?

you cant use right and wrong as being facts in this sense because they are ultimatly opinions, which cant be correct or incorrect.

a lot of the times, a religous organization tells its followers what is right and wrong, take for example; the cathloic chruch says that premarital sex is wrong and a terriable sin

just because a lot of people believe that to be true, doesnt mean that i cant have my opinion that its perfectly okay.
right and wrong is just kinda of the shortcut for, what is your opinion on this topic?

so who decides whats right and wrong? well hopefully everyone thinks for themselves and they decide what they believe is acceptable or non-acceptable

and as far as right and wrong not existing, you can't really say it doesn't exist, but then you can't really say that it does. its like time; if you really sat down and thought about it, you can't really define what it is because its not somthing tangible, its an idea

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Jan 6 2009, 2:41 pm Forsaken Archer Post #40



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i've wondered that, cause sometimes it seems like everyone around you is all in on somthing that you are completely obilivious to and things sometimes work out very well, almost as if someone planned it that way
Too bad it's not always like that.



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