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SEN Mafia IX
Oct 13 2008, 6:40 pm
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Nov 1 2008, 10:44 pm Riney Post #421

Thigh high affectionado

LINGIE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [/sadmusic]

I vote Oyen



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Nov 1 2008, 10:56 pm payne Post #422

:payne:

Na, keep it for saving me next day since I'll probably die :S
Me > Reindeer Breeder (^^ No offense! :P)



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Nov 1 2008, 11:46 pm Greo Post #423



Heh, I was waiting for them to kill me. Forgot to PM the dodge to Moose, oh well.



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Nov 2 2008, 1:18 am Kaias Post #424



Quote from Greo
Heh, I was waiting for them to kill me. Forgot to PM the dodge to Moose, oh well.
I was wondering about that. There hasn't been a successful dodge yet. Did everyone use it at beginning, or are you all saving it up until later? I was going to use it yesterday but I forgot to, so I'm going to use it tonight.



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Nov 2 2008, 1:45 am Ultraviolet Post #425



Quote from Kaias
Quote from Greo
Heh, I was waiting for them to kill me. Forgot to PM the dodge to Moose, oh well.
I was wondering about that. There hasn't been a successful dodge yet. Did everyone use it at beginning, or are you all saving it up until later? I was going to use it yesterday but I forgot to, so I'm going to use it tonight.

I wasted mine first night.




Nov 2 2008, 2:16 am Lingie Post #426



Pop goes the Zergling.



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Nov 2 2008, 2:23 am Kaias Post #427



Quote from name:NerdyTerdy
Quote from Kaias
Quote from Greo
Heh, I was waiting for them to kill me. Forgot to PM the dodge to Moose, oh well.
I was wondering about that. There hasn't been a successful dodge yet. Did everyone use it at beginning, or are you all saving it up until later? I was going to use it yesterday but I forgot to, so I'm going to use it tonight.

I wasted mine first night.
Yes, the first night kills look pretty random, which I'm guessing was done to avoid wasting on dodges.



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Nov 2 2008, 4:28 am Dapperdan Post #428



In case no one has notice, I feel it's important to note that the theoretical physicist is a night action. So you might want to stop waiting for a rewind to happen today that isn't going to. And starting voting, etc.



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Nov 2 2008, 7:46 am cheeze Post #429



yo what's up. :lol:
i think someone said my name.



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Nov 2 2008, 1:52 pm Symmetry Post #430

Dungeon Master

Quote from Dapperdan
In case no one has notice, I feel it's important to note that the theoretical physicist is a night action. So you might want to stop waiting for a rewind to happen today that isn't going to. And starting voting, etc.

Wtf? That should really be specified in the role. That's laaaaaaaaaaaaaame.



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Nov 2 2008, 4:22 pm Moose Post #431

We live in a society.

Quote from WoAHorde
Oh gods, this is hilarious.
We try.

Quote from name:Reindeer Breeder
Quote from Dapperdan
In case no one has notice, I feel it's important to note that the theoretical physicist is a night action. So you might want to stop waiting for a rewind to happen today that isn't going to. And starting voting, etc.

Wtf? That should really be specified in the role. That's laaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
However, it is and has been clearly designated a spot in the list of night actions.
I'm thinking it over... I'm not sure if it makes sense as a night action. DD, we need to talk about this one.



VOTER :: LYNCH CANDIDATE
payne :: Deathman101
TassadarZeratul :: Oyen
Dark_Marine :: Oyen

3 of 21 votes counted.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 2 2008, 4:28 pm by Mini Moose 2707.




Nov 2 2008, 4:31 pm Greo Post #432



If it were a night action, it would be silly. The theorist would just revert time to the previous night, and nothing much would have changed (aside from the townie's lynch).



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Nov 2 2008, 4:44 pm Moose Post #433

We live in a society.

For the record, I don't need anyone else's input on the subject. (unless you are Dapperdan)

Quote
[11:46:28] Moose: Does TP make sense as a night action
[11:46:52] Moose: Cuz what..... we write a post and reverse that?
[11:47:15] Moose: Or if it isn't interfered with it comes first and we reverse a day and night to have the previous night?
[11:47:53] Dapperdan: hm
[11:48:02] Dapperdan: the main idea of the role
[11:48:07] Dapperdan: always seemed to be
[11:48:12] Dapperdan: to fix a townie lynch
[11:48:27] Dapperdan: not to reverse night hits
[11:48:36] Dapperdan: because...
[11:48:47] Dapperdan: then there's like 6 people that the town can completely trust for at least a day
[11:48:49] Dapperdan: hmm
[11:48:52] Moose: Yeah
[11:48:59] Moose: But if it reverses time and it ends up as night
[11:49:04] Moose: Doesn't really fix a lynch
[11:49:30] Dapperdan: hm
[11:49:38] Moose: And there still is the matter of do we have to write a giant night post before time reverses
[11:49:51] Dapperdan: I guess
[11:49:54] Dapperdan: the time of the night action
[11:49:57] Dapperdan: is the problem right nwo
[11:49:59] Dapperdan: now*
[11:50:04] Dapperdan: it should be before mafia hits?
[11:50:12] Moose: Well, basically I want it so that
[11:50:19] Moose: If he isn't hit, he uses it right away
[11:50:23] Moose: But if he is hit..... it doesn't work
[11:50:47] Moose: So we don't have to write the post
[11:50:49] Moose: :P
[11:50:59] Dapperdan: ok
[11:51:21] Moose: Then the last person lynched is un-lynched
[11:51:24] Moose: And the previous night undone
[11:51:42] Moose: And all actions for that night are resubmitteD?
[11:51:53] Dapperdan: everything would have to be redone
[11:52:00] Dapperdan: for that night
[11:52:25] Moose: It is kind of imba to have it reverse time to day
[11:52:36] Dapperdan: how so
[11:52:46] Moose: Six trusted townies running around at day
[11:53:28] Dapperdan: well how else would it work
[11:53:44] Moose: The way we plan to work it
[11:53:45] Moose: :P
[11:53:52] Dapperdan: ergg
[11:53:57] Dapperdan: ok
[11:54:05] Dapperdan: if we reverse time starting at night
[11:54:18] Dapperdan: and go back to the beginning of the previous night
[11:55:02] Dapperdan: the mafia still gets another 6 hits... just the available trusted townies could dodge... umm
[11:56:01] Dapperdan: the only way there aren't 6 trusted townies running around
[11:56:05] Dapperdan: is if
[11:56:11] Dapperdan: we reverse time
[11:56:16] Dapperdan: a full day cycle
[11:56:26] Dapperdan: and not back to the previous night
[11:56:33] Moose: Only day?
[11:56:43] Dapperdan: mmhm
[11:56:56] Moose: Naw
[11:57:06] Moose: That's too much change to the role
[11:57:08] Dapperdan: then we need to let 6 trusted townies live
[11:57:15] Dapperdan: again
[11:57:55] Dapperdan: leave the role the way it is
[11:58:02] Dapperdan: just specify that it reverses time
[11:58:07] Dapperdan: to the beginning of the previous night
[11:58:16] Moose: That's already implied
[11:58:19] Moose: Because it is a night action
[11:58:28] Dapperdan: well it's fine the way it is then
[11:58:44] Dapperdan: unless
[11:58:48] Dapperdan: you were considering
[11:58:53] Dapperdan: making it a day action as well
[11:59:06] Moose: That would be imba 7 trusted townies running around
[11:59:20] Dapperdan: that happens the other too moos
[11:59:24] Dapperdan: moose
[11:59:27] Moose: No, it's night
[11:59:31] Moose: The mafia gets a chance
[11:59:35] Moose: To kill quite a few of them off
[11:59:38] Dapperdan: o yeah
[11:59:38] Moose: Or kill off other townies
[11:59:40] Dapperdan: ok
[11:59:41] Dapperdan: doh
[11:59:50] Moose: I'm gonna post a log of this in the topic
[11:59:56] Moose: So everyone is aware of this debate
[11:59:59] Dapperdan: ok
[12:00:03] Moose: And why it can't be a day action

TL;DR
Theoretical Physicist will remain a night action.
It cannot be a day action because it is horribly imbalanced to have 7 confirmed townspeople running around conducting a lynch. The mafia must have a chance to retaliate.
If TP tries to use his power and is not hit, meaning his action is successful, it will take place immediately. A new night post will not be written before time is reversed.
His action will reverse time to the previous night. All actions and hits for that night must be resubmitted. A new night post will be written for that previous night.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Nov 2 2008, 5:03 pm by Mini Moose 2707.




Nov 2 2008, 5:22 pm Dapperdan Post #434



Voter --> Lynch Candidate

payne --> Deathman101
TassadarZeratul --> Oyen
Dark_Marine --> Oyen (2)

3 of 21 Votes Recorded

Abstainers(4) --> Reindeer Breeder, Deathman101, Kaias, cheeze



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Nov 2 2008, 5:52 pm Ultraviolet Post #435



But it's not horribly imbalanced that you didn't specify that this role could only be used at night and that you didn't kill off the right person last lynching?




Nov 2 2008, 7:01 pm Dapperdan Post #436



Quote from name:NerdyTerdy
But it's not horribly imbalanced that you didn't specify that this role could only be used at night

It was listed as a night action. Yes, it wasn't specified that it couldn't be used during day, but we can't change that now. Not that it wasn't pretty well implied that it couldn't be used during day due to the fact it was listed as a night action.

Quote from name:NerdyTerdy
You didn't kill off the right person last lynching

What are you talking about.



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Nov 2 2008, 7:14 pm Ultraviolet Post #437



Quote from Dapperdan
Quote from name:NerdyTerdy
But it's not horribly imbalanced that you didn't specify that this role could only be used at night

It was listed as a night action. Yes, it wasn't specified that it couldn't be used during day, but we can't change that now. Not that it wasn't pretty well implied that it couldn't be used during day due to the fact it was listed as a night action.

Quote from name:NerdyTerdy
You didn't kill off the right person last lynching

What are you talking about.

I voted for payne, and Moose didn't count it. If Moose had counted my vote properly then payne would have been lynched instead of EzDay. Also, specifying it as a night action does not automatically make it a night only action. I always thought the idea was that it could be used either during the night or day, and that's why I said it reversed everything one cycle.




Nov 2 2008, 7:46 pm HailFire Post #438



Quote from Mini Moose 2707
If TP tries to use his power and is not hit, meaning his action is successful, it will take place immediately. A new night post will not be written before time is reversed.
His action will reverse time to the previous night. All actions and hits for that night must be resubmitted. A new night post will be written for that previous night.

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, if TP fires the time machine on night 3, time is shifted back to night 2, wherein all of night 2's powers/hits must be resubmitted? Clarify, even the tl;dr version is confusing because we're dealing with time travel.

Also, if time is reversed, and then the TP is killed during the period of reversed time, wouldn't that create a paradox? :crazy:



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Nov 2 2008, 8:12 pm Dapperdan Post #439



Quote from HailFire
Quote from Mini Moose 2707
If TP tries to use his power and is not hit, meaning his action is successful, it will take place immediately. A new night post will not be written before time is reversed.
His action will reverse time to the previous night. All actions and hits for that night must be resubmitted. A new night post will be written for that previous night.

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, if TP fires the time machine on night 3, time is shifted back to night 2, wherein all of night 2's powers/hits must be resubmitted? Clarify, even the tl;dr version is confusing because we're dealing with time travel.

Also, if time is reversed, and then the TP is killed during the period of reversed time, wouldn't that create a paradox? :crazy:

@Paragraph 1: yes.
@Paragraph 2: Who cares. We're not having a serious hypothetical discussion about how time machine's would work. Hopefully you weren't being serious.



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Nov 2 2008, 8:48 pm Vi3t-X Post #440



Heh. Playing PW too much makes me not pay attention.

I abstain until further analysis.



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