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If you're joking, Ex, you should stop, because it's trolling Demonslayer successfully either way.
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Ignorance? You've the most ignorant person I've seen on this site.
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All we're trying to say is that we mainly use bots as a form of communication, and that they don't even spam that much. But no, you, being the almighty god that you make yourself look like, constantly look over what we're saying.
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The only way I've ever seen you be helpful is by giving advice to people on how to make a computer, and if you know that much about computers and just play HoN all day, please, get out of your basement and make some friends.
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VraelIf you're joking, Ex, you should stop, because it's trolling Demonslayer successfully either way.
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I still don't understand how Flamming and Immaturity is linking to bots.
Yes, bots can spam the hell out of op SEN, but that's why you're here to ban them when they do, not before.
Your "duct tape the faucet before it leaks" would be justified if this was a serious problem before. It isn't. I own a bot, and I know what "quit doing that or I'll ban it" means.
If you can't take the time to say "stop with that bot," then you also don't have the time to say "stop flaming" because they're virtually the same thing.
Or, maybe we should go with your plan, and force all member's bots to either stay quiet or always talk in whispers.
Yes, bots can spam the hell out of op SEN, but that's why you're here to ban them when they do, not before.
Your "duct tape the faucet before it leaks" would be justified if this was a serious problem before. It isn't. I own a bot, and I know what "quit doing that or I'll ban it" means.
If you can't take the time to say "stop with that bot," then you also don't have the time to say "stop flaming" because they're virtually the same thing.
Or, maybe we should go with your plan, and force all member's bots to either stay quiet or always talk in whispers.
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l)ark_ssj9kevinI still don't understand how Flamming and Immaturity is linking to bots.
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l)ark_ssj9kevinYes, bots can spam the hell out of op SEN, but that's why you're here to ban them when they do, not before.
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l)ark_ssj9kevinYour "duct tape the faucet before it leaks" would be justified if this was a serious problem before. It isn't. I own a bot, and I know what "quit doing that or I'll ban it" means.
I wish some members were as bright as you Kevin. Unfortunately, think before you hit enter does not enter their minds.
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l)ark_ssj9kevinOr, maybe we should go with your plan, and force all member's bots to either stay quiet or always talk in whispers.
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Once again, Ex, you use your power to threaten others and say whatever you want. It's not fair.
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Once again, Ex, you use your power to threaten others and say whatever you want. It's not fair.
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I'm simply revealing that it would be a never ending pattern of Moose redirecting us to you redirecting us to Moose and so forth. As far as I know, what Dem0nS1ayer is saying is part of an "issue" and Moose wants us to direct "issues" to you, but you want us to direct "issues" to him.
Now I realize you're just making up half-assed arguments to combat ours, continuing to fall back to the point that you're a global moderator and because of that you're better than all of us and what ever you say is automatically better than what we have to say. With that, I'm leaving this topic.
Now I realize you're just making up half-assed arguments to combat ours, continuing to fall back to the point that you're a global moderator and because of that you're better than all of us and what ever you say is automatically better than what we have to say. With that, I'm leaving this topic.
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lil-InfernoI'm simply revealing that it would be a never ending pattern of Moose redirecting us to you redirecting us to Moose and so forth. As far as I know, what Dem0nS1ayer is saying is part of an "issue" and Moose wants us to direct "issues" to you, but you want us to direct "issues" to him.
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I've tried to discuss the rules and policies, but it's pretty hard to do so when you ignore all the posts by saying "I'm the law" or "Citation needed."
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I've tried to discuss the rules and policies, but it's pretty hard to do so when you ignore all the posts by saying "I'm the law" or "Citation needed."
Citation needed implies I don't believe what you're saying and you're going to have to provide some sort of evidence (other than I spend too much time on the computer
) to back it up.Bot applications opened: http://www.staredit.net/topic/8684/
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Quote from name:Excalibur, in SEN Bot Authorization topic; Having">http://www.staredit.net/topic/8684/]Having a bot in Op SEN is a privilege, not a right.
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MDY Industries, LLC v. Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.
On July 14th, 2008, the U.S. District of Arizona ruled on the case MDY Industries, LLC v. Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. The Court found that MDY was liable for copyright infringement since users of its Glider bot program were breaking Blizzard's End User License Agreement and Terms of Use.
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l)ark_ssj9kevinI still don't understand how Flamming and Immaturity is linking to bots.
Excalibur, while you're having fun, I'm not going to stand for you being a dick. Likewise, I will not stand for anyone disparaging Excalibur.
https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/how-this-all-happened/
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
https://youtu.be/vyiXaCRwZTs
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/09/how_to_be_mean_to_your_kids.html
http://lab.cccb.org/en/renata-avila-the-internet-of-creation-disappeared-now-we-have-the-internet-of-surveillance-and-control/
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
https://youtu.be/vyiXaCRwZTs
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/09/how_to_be_mean_to_your_kids.html
http://lab.cccb.org/en/renata-avila-the-internet-of-creation-disappeared-now-we-have-the-internet-of-surveillance-and-control/
Hmm.. SEN admins control what goes on in their channel. If you don't like it, make your own channel or pm someone asking politely for something to be changed, explaining in detail why that something should be changed.
No big deal.. I rarely go to SEN because I'm almost always told that I should leave. The only time I do go in there is when I'm desperate for a tester, or looking for someone in particular.
Though, I still stand by what I said in the other topic -If Vrael bans some people acting like morons due to a lack of things to do in the physical world, more power to him. Even if a kick would have sufficed. If a banned someone really wants to get back into the channel, they can get a new account and act mature. If they aren't motivated to do this, then they really didn't need to be in the channel in the first place, they were there to mess around.
No big deal.. I rarely go to SEN because I'm almost always told that I should leave. The only time I do go in there is when I'm desperate for a tester, or looking for someone in particular.
Though, I still stand by what I said in the other topic -If Vrael bans some people acting like morons due to a lack of things to do in the physical world, more power to him. Even if a kick would have sufficed. If a banned someone really wants to get back into the channel, they can get a new account and act mature. If they aren't motivated to do this, then they really didn't need to be in the channel in the first place, they were there to mess around.
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So I read all 3 pages so far, and the best compromise I could come up with for everyone is to ban anyone who flames or spams, regardless of whether it's a bot or person. Oh wait.
I think Excal is having a little too much fun with the back-and-forth, but I don't think it is unwarranted. The amount of unchecked flames I've seen in Dem0n's posts alone should be proof that the changes are necessary.
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And frankly, I don't see what the big deal is. If you just come in SEN to chat and have well-mannered fun while occasionally looking for friends to play with or ask questions about map making, you're fine. Keep doing what you're doing.
If you come to Op SEN to fuck around and clutter it with spam or less-than-well-mannered fun, then you can be greeted with a ban.
The rule should be that you can't be on at the same time as your bot. Bots can only be allowed in the channel if they're used to chat. If you are on to play and park your bot in the channel, your bot is then useless.
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I think Excal is having a little too much fun with the back-and-forth, but I don't think it is unwarranted. The amount of unchecked flames I've seen in Dem0n's posts alone should be proof that the changes are necessary.
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And frankly, I don't see what the big deal is. If you just come in SEN to chat and have well-mannered fun while occasionally looking for friends to play with or ask questions about map making, you're fine. Keep doing what you're doing.
If you come to Op SEN to fuck around and clutter it with spam or less-than-well-mannered fun, then you can be greeted with a ban.
The rule should be that you can't be on at the same time as your bot. Bots can only be allowed in the channel if they're used to chat. If you are on to play and park your bot in the channel, your bot is then useless.
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To think Im the fucker that started this all.
http://www.staredit.net/topic/7053/ For refrence
Get em Ex, I still wish I could be the one, seeing as I can control a group of immature people into a spot where it doesnt bother others.
http://www.staredit.net/topic/7053/ For refrence
Get em Ex, I still wish I could be the one, seeing as I can control a group of immature people into a spot where it doesnt bother others.
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To think Im the fucker that started this all.
http://www.staredit.net/topic/7053/ For refrence
Get em Ex, I still wish I could be the one, seeing as I can control a group of immature people into a spot where it doesnt bother others.
http://www.staredit.net/topic/7053/ For refrence
Get em Ex, I still wish I could be the one, seeing as I can control a group of immature people into a spot where it doesnt bother others.
They had, for the most, part, abandoned op SEN for op TSC far before these recent events.
https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/how-this-all-happened/
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
https://youtu.be/vyiXaCRwZTs
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/09/how_to_be_mean_to_your_kids.html
http://lab.cccb.org/en/renata-avila-the-internet-of-creation-disappeared-now-we-have-the-internet-of-surveillance-and-control/
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
https://youtu.be/vyiXaCRwZTs
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/09/how_to_be_mean_to_your_kids.html
http://lab.cccb.org/en/renata-avila-the-internet-of-creation-disappeared-now-we-have-the-internet-of-surveillance-and-control/
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I still belive it was their behavior which lowered others standards of conversation in the channel though.
I mean who else could....echo?
I mean who else could....echo?
This post is the explanation of my report of the "SEN Bot Authorization" topic.
The authorization and coordinating of bots in the channel "op SEN" is both illegal and a violation of the SEN rule by nature of bots being a violation of the End User License Agreement and Terms of Use as explained in my prior post:
This applies to us as well, Excalibur. In fact, as a third-party program it is explicitly not allowed on battle.net at all. If we truly wish to meet the higher standards that Moose talks about, we should not be violating the terms of our contracts with Blizzard Entertainment by using third-party applications to modify our battle.net experiences.
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MDY Industries, LLC v. Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.
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MDY Industries, LLC v. Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.
On July 14th, 2008, the U.S. District of Arizona ruled on the case MDY Industries, LLC v. Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. The Court found that MDY was liable for copyright infringement since users of its Glider bot program were breaking Blizzard's End User License Agreement and Terms of Use.
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Hey Vrael,
I think Moose is well aware of Blizzard's policies, the tools we are using, THE RULES HE WROTE, and that topics existence. And you know what? I don't think he cares what Blizzard thinks of the tools we use. It'd be hypocritical to all of a sudden worry about bots now when we've been running two moderation bots in there for months.
You've been more than reasonably outspoken about this issue. We heard you the first time. It doesn't appear to me like you're going to get what you want, and I suggest you stop trying.
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I think Moose is well aware of Blizzard's policies, the tools we are using, THE RULES HE WROTE, and that topics existence. And you know what? I don't think he cares what Blizzard thinks of the tools we use. It'd be hypocritical to all of a sudden worry about bots now when we've been running two moderation bots in there for months.
You've been more than reasonably outspoken about this issue. We heard you the first time. It doesn't appear to me like you're going to get what you want, and I suggest you stop trying.
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Now I'm happy for you and all Demon.. And I'ma let you finish but..
How the fuck do muted keys join channels? Going to have to call you out on that.
How the fuck do muted keys join channels? Going to have to call you out on that.
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