I support adding more guys, but probably only one or two. I have a few unused ideas from Breach you could have if you want (if I can find my notebook again...)

100% slower = no gathering. That wouldn't make sense and I doubt Moose made assims literally useless. What did you mean to say?

100% slower = It takes twice as long.

Why did you lower volts second spell duration? Was it because its too rigged? Or because the volt is better off since half the heros can manual and make it so volts lvl 2 isn't the cause of death.

Now for my Quick and Dirty Reply =)

1. I feel this is unecessary
2. May be implemented. I want more feedback on this before I put it in
3. Already done.. Costs 60-80, less hp tho.
4. Already done
5. Battle tank stats = 750 hp, same shields, same armor, 150 dmg instead of 160. Scarab damage stays at +10.
6. May be implemented.. Probably +25 instead
7. Already done
8. I think I did that already =o
9. ?? Never seen that happen.. Maybe ju got EMP'ed?
10. Why?.. Feedback is not OP
11. I don't know. Is it really necessary?.. Some feedback from others would be greatly appreciated.
12. read above (5.)
13. May be implemented. Need feedback.
14. 4800 hp with 15+2. (and diff spell set )
15. Will be implemented. Done.
16. Done.
17. No. I have already made it "less OP" by making Heroes move into it every 3 DC. However, all summoned + spell units will be sucked into Volt every DC. Heroes will have the chance of running away if they can outrun Volt and no other units are blocking their way.

To Faz- and TassadarZeratul.
I already finished 2 spanking new heroes (One Overly Overpowered XD) But I need sm ideas for 2 more hereos.. Units left: Vulture, Aldaris, Critters (Ursadon + Kakaru). All ghosts have been used . No Air units. No Buildings >< (too hard to trigger).
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated... TY Very much =D

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some Bug squishing to do on the new heroes... Please give feedback to the ones I asked for =D thanks!

EDIT: oh and.. I like the fact that Reavers > Summoner. At least everyone can counter summoner in some way now.... O.o.. right now, you guys played the game more than me.. So i trust your suggestions.

Shadow Golem: (Vulture)
1. Shadowport: Teleportation.
2. Dark Blast: Creates a Guardian over the Shadow Golem which only lasts a few seconds.
3. Confusion: An Arbiter appears over the Golem. In a few seconds, it explodes and a bunch of Hallucinations of the Golem appear in random spots near the Arbiter (JYD units).
4. Shadow Walk: Summons an Arbiter which can use Recall. During the day, if the Golem is standing directly under the Arbiter, the enemies lose shared vision to the Golem, cloaking him.

The role is a fast attack unit which is heavily countered by Detectors. Do you like my idea?

EDIT: Maybe I should change Dark Blast to summon a cloaked Wraith, so that Detectors have an even bigger advantage on it?

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 11 2009, 10:29 pm by TassadarZeratul.

Darn, my main idea was for a Sniper as new unit. =p

Best bug ever, the game I'm playing right now there are two Mechs, one on each team. Lol. =D I randomed into it right as he chose it.

I just hope v1.5 is Open Source like all your other ones.

That happened to me earlier ;o

I just played with Urine and this also happened xD
Isn't vulture taken? Mech + his rail gun?
Isn't Aldrais taken? LM?

LM = Tassadar. Aldaris isn't placeable via triggers ;o

Aldaris = Light Barrier, no?

which is why it isn't created, it's moved.

FFFUUUUUU-

Marine can rush to spell level 3 and create a bunker around the stairs of the right lane, spawn blocking. The Rine I played against also decided to be cool and irradiate his own sci vessels and almost double his exp quickly.

He was on the bottom team.

fgdsfdg.

Damn... Are you sure there are no other unused units? What about Ultralisks and Dragoons? I'm pretty sure at least one of them or one of their heroes is unused. There's probably /some/ unit that would work... Maybe the hero Goliath?

Oh, I had a better idea for one of my idea's spells: Summon A LOT of P12 DTs all around the character, and kill any P12 DTs adjacent to it. The DTs are not invulnerable. They all die in a few seconds. Then, the only people within range who can move are him and people with detector support.

Worse is that Dark Mage can do this from the very beginning (using the dark archon), and Kerrigan comes with storm as well, so if all of bottom team sends the spawn towards top/right path then the top team is royally screwed. Medic can also wall with its medics and do basically the same thing. The fact that the choke is BEHIND the cannons means that if done early game it's pretty much instant gg, possibly even with all the assims on the map due to the inability to feed and level the hero.

.. Then why don't I just use the paralysing trigger that Volt, Assault, and Assassin have???

Yeah yours also stops summoned units.. but really that only affects Summoner.

And... yeah.. that really is all the units left.. .and I'm already pushing it with vulture n aldaris.. ><"

There's a sort of exploit which I don't think is fixed, if a team has a firebat and a DM on the same team, they can sit at their base and feedback corsairs over and over again, until the DM has 3 times as much exp as everyone else.

Also I don't think the mutalisk bug with infinite mutas that are flown off the side of the map is fixed yet, though I could be wrong.

Twice as long = 50% slower.

150% normal time = not twice as long.
200% normal time = twice as long.

Given context it should be obvious what the change in assimilator rate is, regardless of pedantics.


TassadarZeratul: The hero dragoon is not in use IIRC. Pretty much every ground unit is in use except for Alexi as of 1.4 (I don't know what the hero Goon is used for, though). The mech monopolizes the terran factory units, aldaris is in use (LM's l1?), both ultras are in use (summoner and mutant's l4), etc...


I've only played one game of the new version so far, a 2v2, and my first impressions of this are mostly good. The slower gathering rate of assimilators definitely makes spamming them more difficult in the early game, though I don't know if its enough of a change yet. The lower attack upgrade for the marine is definitely interesting, as a warrior I could stay in fighting shape for quite a while even when he had 14 attack upgrades. I don't know about the battle tank/building changes as I wasn't able to get money fast enough, not that I was really trying. I think upping storm cost is a good idea, although I suspect it might wreck the balance of LM and DM more than intended. The headaches from storm often come from its abuse rather than them being spammed.

The two changes which I have immediate issue with are the feedback change and the reaver nerf. Why? The other things I'll hold off on commenting until trying it out.

Then I guess thats going to be one of those things that can only be fixed with self restraint. D: