pressing F10 pauses the game in SP. Singleplayer has no lag. At least bnet has the lag about 1 second. I'm not sure about that in local area networks.

pressing F10 pauses the game in SP.

Singleplayer has no lag. At least bnet has the lag about 1 second. I'm not sure about that in local area networks.

[quote=name:PCFredZ]Pause and Unpause are SP-only actions.[/quote] You are incorrect. You are able to pause in multiplayer by going to the menu and pressing pause game or preessing the pause button on your keyboard next to scroll lock.

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Pause and Unpause are SP-only actions.

You are incorrect. You are able to pause in multiplayer by going to the menu and pressing pause game or preessing the pause button on your keyboard next to scroll lock.

Those aren't trigger actions... Those are player actions. [quote=name:Ahli]pressing F10 pauses the game in SP.[/quote]Any menu, minimizing, or losing focus pauses it. [quote=name:Ahli]Singleplayer has no lag. At least bnet has the lag about 1 second. I'm not sure about that in local area networks.[/quote]That is the latency. It isn't lag itself, it is to prevent lag by giving a bit of buffer time for all the players' games to communicate.

Those aren't trigger actions... Those are player actions.

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pressing F10 pauses the game in SP.

Any menu, minimizing, or losing focus pauses it.

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Singleplayer has no lag. At least bnet has the lag about 1 second. I'm not sure about that in local area networks.

That is the latency. It isn't lag itself, it is to prevent lag by giving a bit of buffer time for all the players' games to communicate.

[quote=Our skilled Farty][quote=name:Ahli]Singleplayer has no lag. At least bnet has the lag about 1 second. I'm not sure about that in local area networks.[/quote]That is the latency. It isn't lag itself, it is to prevent lag by giving a bit of buffer time for all the players' games to communicate.[/quote] The "latency" is still there even if you play alone in a game on battle.net. Playing in singleplayer the player's actions are instant.

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Singleplayer has no lag. At least bnet has the lag about 1 second. I'm not sure about that in local area networks.

That is the latency. It isn't lag itself, it is to prevent lag by giving a bit of buffer time for all the players' games to communicate.

The "latency" is still there even if you play alone in a game on battle.net. Playing in singleplayer the player's actions are instant.

It's anywhere in MultiPlayer. :P

It's anywhere in MultiPlayer.

This isn't actually a difference between MP and SP but I still think it is of relevance: The values you enter for waits are real time. They do NOT change when you alter the game speed. So in bnet where virtually only one speed exists (Speed 7 - fastest) you know when you wait 1000ms that 12 trigger loops will pass in that time. When doing single player campaigns ppl will probably change the speed, thus cinematics that you time using waits will run differently on different speeds. So it's recommended to only use death counter timers for single player mode maps. Death counter timers are always synched to the game (8 timer ticks = 1 game second).

This isn't actually a difference between MP and SP but I still think it is of relevance:
The values you enter for waits are real time. They do NOT change when you alter the game speed.
So in bnet where virtually only one speed exists (Speed 7 - fastest) you know when you wait 1000ms that 12 trigger loops will pass in that time.
When doing single player campaigns ppl will probably change the speed, thus cinematics that you time using waits will run differently on different speeds.
So it's recommended to only use death counter timers for single player mode maps. Death counter timers are always synched to the game (8 timer ticks = 1 game second).

and everyone forgot to mention that saving / loading really only applies to single player, saving in multi shows the lagger or something

and everyone forgot to mention that saving / loading really only applies to single player, saving in multi shows the lagger or something

[quote=name:Bolshevik]and everyone forgot to mention that saving / loading really only applies to single player, saving in multi shows the lagger or something[/quote] Not true at all. It just requires that the same people join the game, and all still have the save file (each are given one). I'm not sure about the details beyond that, such as if someone other than the host can host a save (since only the host can save it to begin with), and I know for sure that switching from udp to bnet (same cd key for that one) doesn't work... it won't keep them in the game once it starts (host stays, and I think they crash). But if it's the same computers/cd-keys and ppl involved, with the same mp format, it works fine.

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and everyone forgot to mention that saving / loading really only applies to single player, saving in multi shows the lagger or something

Not true at all. It just requires that the same people join the game, and all still have the save file (each are given one). I'm not sure about the details beyond that, such as if someone other than the host can host a save (since only the host can save it to begin with), and I know for sure that switching from udp to bnet (same cd key for that one) doesn't work... it won't keep them in the game once it starts (host stays, and I think they crash).

But if it's the same computers/cd-keys and ppl involved, with the same mp format, it works fine.

The only reason it shows the lagger when you save is if they have a slow computer, so they lag when attempting to save a file.

The only reason it shows the lagger when you save is if they have a slow computer, so they lag when attempting to save a file.