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SCDB V1.5 - Starcraft Database Launcher
Nov 20 2018, 12:49 am
By: lifebot  

Nov 20 2018, 12:49 am lifebot Post #1



This tool has been abandoned by developer the and can cause your account to be banned from Battle.net if you use it.

Please use SCA launcher - http://www.staredit.net/topic/18101/.

Post has been edited 8 time(s), last time on Sep 10 2020, 9:16 pm by lifebot.




Nov 20 2018, 1:57 pm MTiger156 Post #2

Veteran Mapper

Thank you for finally releasing a translation of that software (I tried brute-forcing it a few months ago, but failed). However there may be one key point not mentioned here. I had conversed with one of the EUD Editor devs ("Armo") who stated this software only works on Windows 10. Can you confirm whether or not this remains a fact? Although older OS will slowly die out, they still exist in decent quantity today.




Nov 20 2018, 9:59 pm lifebot Post #3



It works on Windows 7, im using windows 7. I'm going to be releasing SCDB enabled Warbible soon as a demonstration.




Nov 20 2018, 11:51 pm MTiger156 Post #4

Veteran Mapper

:omfg: :hurr: Awesome




Nov 26 2018, 4:19 am lifebot Post #5



Here are some currently known limitations:

- Valkyrie unit is disabled
- Cannot save a DC value exceeding 10000000




Dec 3 2018, 5:01 am Arta(M) Post #6

wut's tis

Quote from name:MEMBER
lifebot

- Valkyrie is used by default MurakamiShiinaQC settings. You can change MSQC settings to use another unit in EUD Editor 2 - plugins menu.



maintaining euddraft and eudplib.
Armo#6637 at Discord :teehee:

Dec 7 2018, 6:55 am Ultraviolet Post #7



This is pretty great, I've got a working system with SCDB going in my early stages RPG map. I'm up to lvl 14. And it was so easy to implement, just two short triggers in EUD Editor 2 ^^




Dec 8 2018, 2:33 am lifebot Post #8



I'd like to report that more death values you attempt to save, there is an increased chance of abnormal values being loaded.

For example, you would try to save 1000 and it loads 999999 instead.

For now, the cause is rather random but it occurs more often when you're trying to save excessive amount of information.

I also noticed that when I added 5 death values to save, the 4th and the 5th death values would often load an incorrect value.

I've overcome the above issue by allowing users to re-load, as I did find out that continuous re-tries will eventually trigger a successful load.

In conclusion, it's better to save 1 or 2 death values at most. In an RPG map, this would be your Lvl/Exp and gold. The moment you try to do more than that (such as trying to save your entire inventory or etc), you are most likely going to run into some limitations.

The developer of the tool - JPoker, has acknowledged the current shortcomings and currently planning to update SCDB to V2.0




Dec 8 2018, 5:01 am Ultraviolet Post #9



Oh darn, I was planning on using it to save inventory :P




Dec 10 2018, 6:22 pm lifebot Post #10



A new version will be released. Stay tuned




Dec 11 2018, 11:47 pm MTiger156 Post #11

Veteran Mapper

Yes, new update pleeease. My masterpiece requires 26 saved variables (only 8 of those are for inventory). If the game had infinite DC units, then I could put the entire "multiple characters" mechanic into SCDB. Sadly that isn't possible, so the save-code system still prevails. At least SCDB will be good for remembering the last character played... saves players a little bit of time.




Dec 13 2018, 3:34 pm lifebot Post #12



I suggest try using as many DC's as possible and test out it's current capability. I'm saving 5 DC's per player and it seems to be fine. Just make sure you don't make everyone load at the same time, but rather 1 by 1.




Feb 19 2019, 6:14 am Swampfox Post #13



What's the status of this? I'm unable to access your site.

I found the dl for it https://warbibleonline.com/maps/warbible-rpg/ but I'm still curious, because more DC storage sounds very handy.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Feb 19 2019, 6:25 am by Swampfox.



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Feb 19 2019, 2:23 pm lifebot Post #14



The developer will be releasing EUD Editor 3 as well with an updated version of SCDB that features server-side saving instead of locally generated save file.

Stay tuned




Jun 16 2019, 1:17 pm iDoodler Post #15



Quote from Ultraviolet
Oh darn, I was planning on using it to save inventory :P

You could still do this. Not sure what your idea for inventory, but you could store your whole inventory as a single value.

For instance if you have say... 8 different items(9 if you count empty) and 5 inventory slots.

Assuming 0 is your standard for an empty slot...
Slot1 = Has a value between 1-8 (ItemType1=1;ItemType2=2;ItemType3=3...)
Slot2 = Has a value between 9-72 (ItemType1=9;ItemType2=18;ItemType3=27...)
Slot3 = Has a value between 73-584 (ItemType1=73;ItemType2=146;ItemType3=219...)
Slot4 = Has a value between 585-4680 (ItemType1=585;ItemType2=1170;ItemType3=1755...)
Slot5 = Has a value between 4681-37448 (ItemType1=4681;ItemType2=9362;ItemType3=14043...)

Your minimum to maximum value for your inventory would be 0-42792.



So you can expand on this idea and have like 50+ items with like 8-10 inventory slots but since there is some max value limitations you'd have to store your inventory in multiple values.
I thought about making a pokemon game using this concept, so you can save your pokemon as well ask their stats/level. Its just such a big concept for 1 person to make alone though that I passed on the idea.

So I randomly generated a number between 0-42792: 34519

You read this by starting to check for largest value first which would be your ItemType8 for Slot5.
That value is 37448(4681*8) which is too large to divide into 34519.
The first value that can divide into it is 32767(4681*7;Slot5*ItemType7).

So now that you know Slot5 is ItemType7. You must now find the remaining value of your inventory 34519-32767=1752.
1752 is above the minimum value for Slot4 so you know you have an item in slot4. Going to gloss over the rest.
1752-1170(Slot4*ItemType2 Value)=582 [Slot4 has ItemType2]
582-511(Slot3*ItemType7 Value)=71 [Slot3 has ItemType7]
71-63(Slot2*ItemType7 Value)=8 [Slot2 has ItemType7]
8-8(Slot1*ItemType8 Value)=0 [Slot1 has ItemType8]
Once you reach a value of 0 you have fully loaded your inventory.

I'm sure this type of system has a name for this method but I haven't no idea. I just am aware of its existence and how to use it, but not its name.


You could build on this concept to like 50+ Items and 10+ Item Slots, but with the max value restriction of 10000000 you have to use multiple values.
I even though of a doing a Pokemon map, being able to save the level/stats of the pokemon that you have captured to the next game to continue training them.
Because of this you could have battles that would take you maybe like 50-200+hrs of gameplay before you can beat them like the Elite 4 or something like that.
And even have PvP so theres a competitive drive to keep playing. Anywho... Goodluck if you going to use this. If you need help just ask.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jun 16 2019, 1:31 pm by iDoodler.



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Mar 5 2020, 1:09 pm Oh_Man Post #16

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Lifebot the images in your first post all appear to be broken




Mar 7 2020, 5:10 pm Butch Post #17

PROFESSIONAL MAP MAKER

Say someone doesnt have the plugin installed, will it jus fail to load the necessary values and do nothing? The plugin isnt required to play the map? Just its features don't work if you dont have the plugin?

Ideally like in an RPG example say someone doesnt have the plugin in a lobby and someone else does. Does this mean values will be loaded for the player that has the plugin and values will remain default for the player that does not have the plugin?



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Apr 18 2020, 9:22 pm IcY Post #18



This looks so COOL! I've been looking for a way to do things like this for a long time, saving high scores on maps, etc.

I didn't quite understand how to do it yet on my first read through, but I still need the program mentioned, EUD Editor 2, which the link is down for where I tried to get it on here just now. Same for EUD editor 1 and EUD Draft. I need help getting those I suppose.

I am also wondering if it would be possible to do things like save a players status in an RPG type map or something, saving data for custom items, upgrades, and other things the player has acquired. So far I've developed a code giving system where when you end the game with certain gear or status, it gives you a code you can enter next time to get your status and gear back, but it requires a LOT of trigger coding of repetitive boring triggers I feel could be done a better way.

Anyways cool! Looking forward to learning this for at least use in saving high scores.



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Jul 25 2020, 9:29 pm Oh_Man Post #19

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This has been superseded by SCA; is that right? Someone needs to make a SCA post around here. :P




Jul 26 2020, 4:39 am Ultraviolet Post #20



Quote from Oh_Man
This has been superseded by SCA; is that right? Someone needs to make a SCA post around here. :P

Do you have a link? This sounds interesting. Does SCA fix some of the issues with SCDB, like limited variable loading?




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