Temple Siege G, Temple Siege G3f Released
Post #81 NinjaOtis Aug 26 2011, 5:42 am
Post #82
Jack[RCDF
Aug 26 2011, 10:06 am
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Yeah I played a few games and totally dominated with what maxx calls my pubstar mutant build. Was sad really. Didn't even need to stun to kill with my l2.
And there was never a pro scene for ts. The best three teams have nothing on the actual dota lol and hona pro teams. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #83
Sacrieur
Aug 26 2011, 3:27 pm
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Ever play SaiyaN's mutant? I really think you're underestimating this hero.
There's a small pro scene, sometimes we attempt to get the better players together in one game to end our boredom of playing with pubbies vs. a good team. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() × ÷ ± · ∫ ƒ | ⅛ ¼ ⅓ ⅜ ½ ⅝ ⅔ ¾ ⅞ | π φ ∞ | ≡ ≈ ≥ ≤ ∴ ¬ ∩ Ø | √ ª ⁿ º ¹ ² ³ | ✓ ✗ | א
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Post #84
Jack[RCDF
Aug 26 2011, 10:57 pm
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Assault is probably the most imba OP hero in TS. And when it had nuke it was even more so.
I agree with dolle on some points becase regardless of his bm he's not a bad player. And as vortex- said, stunned mutant is dead mutant, till late game. What is saiyan's mutant build? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #85
Sacrieur
Aug 26 2011, 11:37 pm
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SaiyaN's mutant isn't really a build, it's just how he uses it. He'll go l2 mutant and really knows how to get people that micro with it. I've played with him, he's all about controlling the terrain and pushing you where he wants you. It's very deadly.
I don't know where you get Assault to be OP. He is destroyed by so many things... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() × ÷ ± · ∫ ƒ | ⅛ ¼ ⅓ ⅜ ½ ⅝ ⅔ ¾ ⅞ | π φ ∞ | ≡ ≈ ≥ ≤ ∴ ¬ ∩ Ø | √ ª ⁿ º ¹ ² ³ | ✓ ✗ | א
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Post #86
Jack[RCDF
Aug 26 2011, 11:50 pm
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If you could get a replay of saiyan and record it and throw it on youtube, I'll let you know if it's good play or not.
Maxx is the single best assault player I've played against; I daresay if you can track him down he'll have a replay of his assault. Even units which are supposed to be good against assault have trouble shutting him down and that splash feed is just so powerful. No one plays assault properly anymore though. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #87 IAGG Aug 27 2011, 3:38 am
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If you could get a replay of saiyan and record it and throw it on youtube, I'll let you know if it's good play or not. Maxx is the single best assault player I've played against; I daresay if you can track him down he'll have a replay of his assault. Even units which are supposed to be good against assault have trouble shutting him down and that splash feed is just so powerful. No one plays assault properly anymore though. Also Maxx hasnt played in a very very long time. there are a lot more ts players that have actually progressed playing instead of the very tiny crowd of good ts players back in the day. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #88
Jack[RCDF
Aug 27 2011, 4:26 am
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Well, I played some TS today. I'm really rusty and still was #2 in exp behind summy, got a bunch of kills, and could have won the game easily if summy hadn't finished it for me. The other players were pretty average. Wally was rustier than me ;0 so yeah, on average players seem worse rather than better now.
Also alchemist is a pretty crappy hero. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #90
Sacrieur
Aug 27 2011, 7:25 pm
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Im not a fan of alch either. Seems to be a powerhouse late game though especially if u have a medic yo keep l3ing u so u can l4 and get +70 minerals. Gets owbed by stuns hardcore though You do know his l1 decreases stun duration right? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() × ÷ ± · ∫ ƒ | ⅛ ¼ ⅓ ⅜ ½ ⅝ ⅔ ¾ ⅞ | π φ ∞ | ≡ ≈ ≥ ≤ ∴ ¬ ∩ Ø | √ ª ⁿ º ¹ ² ³ | ✓ ✗ | א
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Post #92
Jack[RCDF
Aug 27 2011, 8:33 pm
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I also like how the l1 will replenish the sheilds of zealots and probe 100%. very nice very nice. Havnt looked at the trig but im assuming it will 100% shields of a pylon? or it may just be men. What are alchemist's spells? You should add them to the first post and clean it up a little. Also, check your emails (assuming it's your email address at the TS tournament site). Also, I'm planning on doing some commentating on some temple siege replays and putting them on youtube. There's a bunch of modern replays on the tstournament site but if anyone has some really good replays from recent versions link me to them and I'll possibly commentate them. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #93 Ice Baby Aug 27 2011, 8:41 pm
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Cafg created the alchemist. Iamgodgift just fixed some of its glitches like the everlasting l4 and the team night vision that wouldnt let your teamates use some spells.
Also check with grandpa about the videos. Hes the one in charge of the tournaments i think and he has a lot of replays from the tourney on his site If u do end up commentating for some. Post some links here cause im sure a lit of people would check them out. Myself included ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #94
Jack[RCDF
Aug 27 2011, 8:46 pm
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Ah, ok.
I know about the tournament replays ;0 but if you have more I'm interested. And I'll definitely post any videos I make here, don't worry ;0 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #95
Jack[RCDF
Aug 28 2011, 10:17 pm
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Latest version looks terrible. You shouldn't add badly thought out heroes all the time. Alchemist, general, and mist are all really badly thought out and not very good. They also seem to take ideas from hero sanctuary a lot. And no mac support seems really bad for just one minor spell. Magician's the only halfway decent new hero, and he has problems too. I'm fine with new heroes but these new heroes are just...not fun and not original and have bad synergy. Sorry but I'm going to boycott the G versions now until these terrible new heroes are fixe or removed.
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Post #96 IAGG Aug 29 2011, 2:37 am
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Latest version looks terrible. You shouldn't add badly thought out heroes all the time. Alchemist, general, and mist are all really badly thought out and not very good. They also seem to take ideas from hero sanctuary a lot. And no mac support seems really bad for just one minor spell. Magician's the only halfway decent new hero, and he has problems too. I'm fine with new heroes but these new heroes are just...not fun and not original and have bad synergy. Sorry but I'm going to boycott the G versions now until these terrible new heroes are fixe or removed. 1. I didnt create alchemist, I only fixed it. 2. People tend to hate new units unless they are a powerhouse. I could care less to make "my new units" the best in the game so that everyone would want to play them. I wanted to create a unique unit to the game. Ive never played Hero sanc before as well so i cant comment on anything from it. 3. The no mac support is only due to detecting the units energy under 50. It has nothing to do with any of Mists spells. Its just a feature of Mist. 4. Mist is a support unit. If you actually understand how to use its advantages, it will have a large role to assist your teamates. 5. Whenever I have created a new unit (Magician and General) at first people didnt like them because they thought the units were too weak and didnt understand how to use them correctly. As time went on, people actually understood how to use them and nolonger thought they were bad units. Mist will fit in this category eventually as well. It has a very short delay between storms. You are able to constantly farm a lane and prevent the other team from farming that lane early game. If you stay on task with this, you will be able to cut the enemy exp early game dramatically. As for sims, since the unit doesnt have a direct attack, it will not have attack upgrades to spend $ on. Mist will be able to sim very early, and efficiently. For its L2, it is able to cloak cannons, bunkers, and sims which means unless the other team has some form of detection, This will make it very difficult for the enemy to break your base at night. This also means that Mist can sim the entire map at beginning of night and cloak the sims so that they will be able to farm the $$$ all night without worrying about them dying. The L3 will act like Dark Mages L3 when it comes to slowing down the enemy, But i wanted the ability to manually attack the infected enemy unit instead of having it like Dark Mage where u cant click the enemy. The L4 basically destroys units that are trying to cannon hug. This will force units to come away from their own defences so that your teamates can gang up on them easily without them being able to run anywhere for help. 6. It seems that you just dont like change and you only like original units. When people find errors with the map, they let me know and i fix them. Just try to learn how to play the new units correctly and you will most likely change your mind. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #97
Jack[RCDF
Aug 29 2011, 3:36 am
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No, it's not the power of the new units I'm worried about, it's the bad design. They don't have good spell synergy, they don't have very good roles, general sounds extremely boring to play, and to have one part of one spell mean that all mac players can't play the map is unacceptable. I like changes, I just don't like bad changes.
In fact, here's a step by step rundown on why the new units are bad: Mist. Can double farm an entire lane from the very start of the game. Even light mage and firebat and archon can't do this. Prevents mac players from playing. >gains control of nearby cannons. Uhh. How does this fit with a character being made of mist... Even regardless of it not making sense, WHY? why give him TWO methods to farm spawn better than any other hero in the game? And if he can take control of neutral and enemy cannons then it's even worse. L1 OK, hallus. Cool. But why the largely useless energy shield increase? L2. Cloaks cannons and other buildings. K. I hope that isn't a permanent cloak. If it is it just makes mutant and spec ops that much more useful at night. Anyway, largely useless spell, although it makes a bit more sense than the l1. L3. 30 seconds holy cow. Why so long? And oh yeah, dark mage already has a slow spell so you're unnecessarily duplicating a spell. And again how does this fit with the character being mist? A blinding spell would fit much better here. L4. What is this I don't even. Doesn't make sense, doesn't synergize with other spells, is probably overpowered (cannons rip up spec ops and l3 mutant like you wouldn't believe). Alchemist. Converts spawn to minerals. I'm not even going to say any more, whoever thought this up was not thinking straight. Sorry. Magician. L1. Useless. I mean, srsly? L2. Ok. L3. Can you say summoner with a big gun and better choice of units? Once you have max mana, this spell becomes your key to doing whatever you feel like. Grab 6 marines and 6 zlings, famr with lings and destroy bases with rines. L4. If this just had stasis and recall I wouldn't mind, but 400+40 DAMAGE? SRSLY? and it cloaks at night too. General. It's a tank. Booooooringggggg L1. Useless, as spec ops showed. Same thing is in hero sanctuary anyway. And repair is a poor substitute for having a medic on your team and being a biological unit. L2. Ya, k. Those better be aimable. L3. Ya, k. L4. WAIT HAVENT WE ALREADY GOT TWO SPELLS LIKE THIS? srsly, l2,3,4 are all the same thing with different units. He's just a slow magedps inferior to mech, light mage, etc. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
Post #98 Happy115 Aug 29 2011, 6:52 am
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Interesting... So when is G3c Coming out
Mist: Concerns with no offensive attacking General: Concerns me at beginning (Good detection with turrets and anti air areas) (Good with sims and late game usually) Magician: |1 going to rape me if placed wrong |4 I love surprise 1 or 2 hit kos with arb XD Alchemist: I just dislike mineral chars in general I dislike how counter spell auto hits you no matter where you are... Bandit: Thank god hes gone I miss some of the Heroes from Temple Siege 1.5d (even if some were OP) But they to me had more temple siege like spells BTW U could make a new hero with Lurker (Although might be hard to) Anyways Good Luck with the Temple Siege Series and That RPG your starting to work on Gift ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #99 IAGG Aug 29 2011, 7:00 am
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I miss some of the Heroes from Temple Siege 1.5d (even if some were OP) But they to me had more temple siege like spells BTW U could make a new hero with Lurker (Although might be hard to) Anyways Good Luck with the Temple Siege Series and That RPG your starting to work on Gift I dont think ive ever played 1.5 before. You should host it for me sometime. And quite a few people suggested putting a lurker hero in. Also thanks for all the glitch finding in all the versions of TS from the very beginning. Been my #1 go to person for glitch finding haha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #100
Jack[RCDF
Aug 29 2011, 1:49 pm
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Alchemist is officially most overpowered hero. Just rush l2 and mana, then sit back and farm an entire spawn wave for minerals. Use em on attack, defence, sims, cannons, reavers, whatever you want. Believe it or not alchemist is a great summy counter because he can rush reavers fastest of any hero.
Also, I vote that the next tournament be hosted on iccup instead of battlenet because then we can uae lowlatency and antihack. Grandpa and a few others tried it out today and it certainly seems to have potential if everyone can follow simple instructions on getting started with iccup. This post was edited 1 time, last edit by Jack: Aug 29 2011, 1:55 pm. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. I have mostly left SEN except for the Temple Siege 2 forum (hidden to most of you). I am available via PM still, and Skype as JackRCDF. If it is important to you, you will find a way. Otherwise, you will find an excuse. -Unknown Magnificent! Perhaps you shouldn't be on SEN as much, too... Better than the iPad! |
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