Yeah, cause you're so caring and understanding. It's not that big of a deal.

Not so. In fact, for the purposes of asking for outside opinions, I would expect people to only provide the insight they have on hand. Because then I'd get more information, in addition to what that insight itself tells me, on what they see from their respective vantage points. I could always decide to accept or reject that information later, anyway. Or even know then whether to push to get people to expand theirs, if that's important to me in some way. You can't expect people to think for you, surely, but it is helpful to know what they are thinking at the present in order to consider your decisions with, nonetheless.

Clokr IS the only one, obviously, who could possibly decide for his own name. That doesn't even need to be specified.

(Unless the admins decided to rename him for lulz or something. )

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 10 2008, 1:03 am by Tuxedo-Templar.

By disagreeing then you're saying opinions don't need to have taken into account any of the facts about the situation, and that the people giving their opinions can be uninformed. You're advocating ignorance.

No, I'm not saying they're entitled to their ignorance. I specified that if they stated their opinion, then the person asking for can also decide if it's important to them to try to change those opinions. But you have to start somewhere for that ends, anyway.



For the purposes of deciding on a name change, though, I don't see a battle against general ignorance being called for. Again, he can simply ignore the opinions he receives if he likes. No biggie.

Maybe you'll understand after the third time:

Just because this is a "smaller" issue doesn't mean we are entitled to be lax in giving our opinion and let the quality of our opinions slide.

They don't. That's why they're opinions. People can have an opinion about whatever they want, however they want, and they don't have to be right.

I'm not disagreeing with what opinions are.

My opinion matters not, but my vote, that there is what matters. Just like the US Presidential Election!

Valid as what? Good choices? Sure. They're still valid as opinions.

Devilesk, stop picking retarded fights for the heck of it. We can give our opinions on the matter, and Clokr_ can either listen or not - that's all there is to it.

Seriously, get a debate club/organization/cult started or something. You live to argue.

Everyone else who responded to him (Aftah Tuxlar), I'm ashamed of you .

No, they're not good choices if they aren't informed opinions.


I'm not saying people can't give their opinions. I'm saying they should be informed before they give it.

QFT
Clokr was just asking for people's opinions, whether they are "valid" or not.

Invalid opinions are a waste of time and just spam.

Also, there should be one less "no" vote and one more "yes" vote, because I voted wrong by accident.

Really ironic, coming from someone who just made a string of 13 meaningless posts (not all by you, but caused by you) which talk about one of the most irrelevant things I've ever seen.

Clokr_ asked for opinions. That's all there is to it.

What the hell is there to be informed about.. it's a yes/no question about an internet alias change. You're treating it like we're voting for Obama/Hillary and everyone who doesn't have the facts should die.

I think when someone asks for opinions its implied they want intelligent and valid ones. If they aren't then they're a waste of time will be ignored and so they shouldn't even be posted in the first place.

Seriously, you guys are doing Clokr_ a great disservice and not treating him with respect if you aren't going to give him some quality opinions on this issue.

I know, there really isn't much to be informed about, yet people are still uninformed. Let's look at what Clokr_ said:
He's not simply asking whether we think yes/no to a simple name change, he's asking for what we think about:
Therefore, our opinions should say something about that.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 10 2008, 1:28 am by devilesk.

I'm with devilesk on this one. All he did was say that clokr shouldn't listen to all the people who clearly didn't think about the situation much. Then, somehow, people managed to disagree with him, and he's merely defended his point since then. Anyways...

I actually voted no at first, but I hadn't put any thought into it. Upon further review, I'd say just do whatever you want. Most of their reasoning for you not changing your name has everything to do with them and nothing to do with you. Everyone will still know who you are if you change your name now, so that's not an issue. The "omg you won't be named clokr anymore" claims really have no true negative consequences. Nothing will really happen to them -- if you're sick of your name then change. My recommendation: pick a new name, but stick with something original, not 'Cthulhu'.

No. I'd rather honesty and simplicity rather than wordy insight. If I wanted more intelligent opinions, as in, if I felt that was important, I'd just ask for that, or invoke a discussion to see if I could milk it out from people that way. We can't assume that we're owed the utmost of intelligent insight each and every time an opinion is asked for.

That honesty and simplicity is more useful for more casual requests like this, anyway.

Rename it PROEDIT MAKER!!111 (Inside joke :\)

Nah, keep it Clokr_. That's what I'll always know you by.

Cthulhu, oh thats awesome! No wait its not unoriginal enough. You should do something like SSJCthulhu13 YEAH THAT WOULD FREGGIN ROCK

Seriously if you want to change your internet alias, go ahead, just don't make it something used, generic or lame or you'll probably end up blending in with the rest of the retards. I hate seeing people as characters from books and movies and especially hate people who take anime character names. Fucking hated how every other assassin in Guild Wars had that gay headband and one of ten thousand variations of "naruto" as their name. Naruto is an insult to ninjas.

Change it to Clocker.