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Nov 4 2010, 4:33 am poison_us Post #881

Back* from the grave

Just notifying you all that I'm done with LoL until/unless LeBlanc gets smacked by the much needed Nerfstick. Actually, I wouldn't mind if she got beat to death by it. I bid you good day.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 4 2010, 4:39 am by poison_us. Reason: et-->id




Nov 4 2010, 5:05 am Neki Post #882



Quite the over-reaction all four of you had in vent though. :lol:



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Nov 4 2010, 8:56 am poison_us Post #883

Back* from the grave

That would have been just Lingie and Riney. Turtles and I were getting pissy because they wouldn't shut the fuck up. It's like that whenever they play (and we aren't doing too hot) anymore. Neither of them knows when or cares to shut up when they get like that.

And it's Teamspeak, anyways.





Nov 4 2010, 11:14 am DevliN Post #884

OVERWATCH STATUS GO

I was cracking up listening to them. I need to get on TS more often, it seems.



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Nov 4 2010, 12:40 pm OlimarandLouie Post #885



How good of a Kassadin do you guys think I am? :awesome:



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Nov 4 2010, 1:04 pm Wing Zero Post #886

Magic box god; Suck it Corbo

Quote from poison_us
Just notifying you all that I'm done with LoL until/unless LeBlanc gets smacked by the much needed Nerfstick. Actually, I wouldn't mind if she got beat to death by it. I bid you good day.
I don't think shes as op as you think she is, either that or the ones i played absolutely sucked




Nov 4 2010, 8:49 pm Lingie Post #887



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Quote from name:Rammus
Best time to buy runes is now. Don't touch T2 runes, and wait for T3. Its cheap to nothing to fill up on T1 runes, and they give you plenty of room to experiment.

Also, if you picked the "played these games before" option when you first logged in, you'd get the normal crowd. If you clicked never before, you'll find the smurf crowd, and they'd more then likely be more difficult.

Sad sad truth.

I wish people would be more honest :(

Well, granted, there is a high number of honest picks within the population too, but you're going to find Smurfs. Guarenteed.



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Nov 4 2010, 9:06 pm OlimarandLouie Post #888



Quote from name:Rammus
Quote from ThedarKOne
Quote from name:Rammus
Best time to buy runes is now. Don't touch T2 runes, and wait for T3. Its cheap to nothing to fill up on T1 runes, and they give you plenty of room to experiment.

Also, if you picked the "played these games before" option when you first logged in, you'd get the normal crowd. If you clicked never before, you'll find the smurf crowd, and they'd more then likely be more difficult.

Sad sad truth.

I wish people would be more honest :(

Well, granted, there is a high number of honest picks within the population too, but you're going to find Smurfs. Guarenteed.
Such is the downside of being able to create free accounts whenever you want.



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Nov 4 2010, 9:08 pm Decency Post #889



Alright, I've played 11 games, 8-3. 2 of the losses were to Arranged Teams of obvious smurfs, one was a really good game.

I tried all of the 10 free heroes this week and then somehow I have "Corki" too, but I still have no idea what I like. I think mana-less heroes are a lot of fun, especially Dr. Mundo, but that's mostly because they tend to be more easily sustainable. Not being able to TP out of base gets old so I'm not a big fan of going back to base.

I guess I'll try the new heroes next week, overall I like a lot of the changes from DotA/HoN but the heroes are all pretty linear so far. Morgana and Lux seem to play almost identically. I can't even imagine how the game will play once everyone can blink, to be honest it seems like it would ruin a lot of the positioning elements and make melee heroes with pseudo-blink engages a lot weaker, since they have essentially a wasted skill.

Does getting hit cancel blink, is it a channel, what's the cooldown, etc.?



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Nov 4 2010, 9:18 pm ThedarKOne Post #890



Getting hit doesn't cancel it, it isn't a channel, and the CD is like 120-150 I think.



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Nov 4 2010, 9:20 pm OlimarandLouie Post #891



Quote from name:FaZ-
Alright, I've played 11 games, 8-3. 2 of the losses were to Arranged Teams of obvious smurfs, one was a really good game.

I tried all of the 10 free heroes this week and then somehow I have "Corki" too, but I still have no idea what I like. I think mana-less heroes are a lot of fun, especially Dr. Mundo, but that's mostly because they tend to be more easily sustainable. Not being able to TP out of base gets old so I'm not a big fan of going back to base.

I guess I'll try the new heroes next week, overall I like a lot of the changes from DotA/HoN but the heroes are all pretty linear so far. Morgana and Lux seem to play almost identically. I can't even imagine how the game will play once everyone can blink, to be honest it seems like it would ruin a lot of the positioning elements and make melee heroes with pseudo-blink engages a lot weaker, since they have essentially a wasted skill.

Does getting hit cancel blink, is it a channel, what's the cooldown, etc.?
It actually depends.
- The summoner spell Flash is instantaneous and blinks you to wherever your cursor is. Cannot be stopped if you are able to cast it.
- Kassadin's Riftwalk has a slight 1/4~1/5 second channel. If taunted, stunned, etc., the effects take place after you blink. 2.4-6 second cooldown depending on your cd reduction and level.
- LeBlanc's w spell... I don't know yet. Haven't played against her enough.



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Nov 4 2010, 9:46 pm Kaias Post #892



Quote from poison_us
Just notifying you all that I'm done with LoL until/unless LeBlanc gets smacked by the much needed Nerfstick. Actually, I wouldn't mind if she got beat to death by it. I bid you good day.
I don't think she's that out of balance. She's extremely good at her role of assassin, but she fades out pretty quickly unless (and often even if) she really got fed early game. Regardless, your wish is granted, as they just hotfix nerfed her to make her early game worse and her mana costs higher.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=325790

And yesterday when in the SEN 5v5 premade lobby my client crashed and pvpnet chat subsequently decided to not work.



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Nov 4 2010, 10:07 pm OlimarandLouie Post #893



First time Gangplank.





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Nov 4 2010, 11:21 pm Bar Refaeli Post #894



Quote from OlimarandLouie
How good of a Kassadin do you guys think I am? :awesome:
He is extremely easy to play as, but you make him look even easier to play... blindfolded.



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Nov 4 2010, 11:39 pm poison_us Post #895

Back* from the grave

For Q-R the following changes:
  • Reduced the initial damage on Sigil of Silence to 70/110/150/190/230 from 80/125/170/215/260.
  • Reduced the cast range on Sigil of Silence to 700 from 750.
  • Increased the cooldown of Mimic to 40 seconds from 30 seconds at all ranks.
  • Reduced the damage amplification on Mimic to 10/25/40% from 20/30/40%. (The tooltip was incorrectly stating 20/35/50%).

To address her mana efficiency we made the following changes:
  • Increased the mana cost on Sigil of Silence to 70/75/80/85/90 from 60/65/70/75/80.
  • Increased the mana cost on Distortion to 80/90/100/110/120 from 60/70/80/90/100.
  • Increased the mana cost on Ethereal Chains to 80 from 70 at all ranks.
  • Reduced her mana per level to 50 from 56.

We made two minor changes in addition to the ones noted above. We reduced her armor per level by 0.5 since melee need to feel she's appropriately squishy, and we reduced the damage of Distortion and Ethereal Chains by 5 at all ranks to preserve Q's position as the highest damage output ability and not adjust skill choices.


So, 700 on her Silence. Still far larger than any regular spell, save heimer's grenade. Ooooh, boy, they decreased her damage on it by a grand total of 30 at level 5. Woopdie doo. The range is fine as it was, because her gay shit jump in/jump out spell lets her get right fucking next to you to cast it anyways. Her mana stuff isn't that bad anymore, now actually looks reasonable for the damage it does.

Her cooldowns need a nerf, not just the damage/mana cost. Spammable spells are gay spells. Trust me, I'm a Q-rushing Vlad and Cleaver Mundo. This nerf is almost as bad as no nerf at all, but then again, Riot is out to make money from the idiots who'll pay RP for every new champ. Since I started playing, there's only one champ that wasn't massively OP as soon as he came out, but I can't remember what his name is.





Nov 5 2010, 12:18 am ShadowFlare Post #896



Swain wasn't too bad, but then at the time I was doing that lifesteal/bloodthirster build on Miss Fortune, whose W skill can reduce his healing from his ult by half, and that build was fairly effective against those without abilities that disable auto-attacking.



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Nov 5 2010, 12:43 am Riney Post #897

Thigh high affectionado

Quote from poison_us
That would have been just Lingie and Riney. Turtles and I were getting pissy because they wouldn't shut the fuck up. It's like that whenever they play (and we aren't doing too hot) anymore. Neither of them knows when or cares to shut up when they get like that.

And it's Teamspeak, anyways.

Wheres that coming from? D: That was all Lingie. I was just telling him to shut up and how to counter xD



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Nov 5 2010, 1:25 am Generalpie Post #898

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"LeBlanc's OPness... its... OVER 9000!!!" -xXxiSm0KeW33d



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Nov 5 2010, 1:37 am Kaias Post #899



Quote from poison_us
For Q-R the following changes:
  • Reduced the initial damage on Sigil of Silence to 70/110/150/190/230 from 80/125/170/215/260.
  • Reduced the cast range on Sigil of Silence to 700 from 750.
  • Increased the cooldown of Mimic to 40 seconds from 30 seconds at all ranks.
  • Reduced the damage amplification on Mimic to 10/25/40% from 20/30/40%. (The tooltip was incorrectly stating 20/35/50%).

To address her mana efficiency we made the following changes:
  • Increased the mana cost on Sigil of Silence to 70/75/80/85/90 from 60/65/70/75/80.
  • Increased the mana cost on Distortion to 80/90/100/110/120 from 60/70/80/90/100.
  • Increased the mana cost on Ethereal Chains to 80 from 70 at all ranks.
  • Reduced her mana per level to 50 from 56.

We made two minor changes in addition to the ones noted above. We reduced her armor per level by 0.5 since melee need to feel she's appropriately squishy, and we reduced the damage of Distortion and Ethereal Chains by 5 at all ranks to preserve Q's position as the highest damage output ability and not adjust skill choices.


So, 700 on her Silence. Still far larger than any regular spell, save heimer's grenade. Ooooh, boy, they decreased her damage on it by a grand total of 30 at level 5. Woopdie doo. The range is fine as it was, because her gay shit jump in/jump out spell lets her get right fucking next to you to cast it anyways. Her mana stuff isn't that bad anymore, now actually looks reasonable for the damage it does.
Level 5 Silence wasn't the problem; her problem was early game her damage was extremely high, specifically at level 6.

Original level 6 damage output:
Sigil of Silence (level 3): 170 dmg + 20 dmg
Mimic: Sigil of Silence (greatest multiplier gains): 204 dmg + 24 dmg
Distortion (Level 3): 90 dmg
Ethereal Chains: 90 dmg
Total: 598 dmg

New level 6 damage output:
Sigil of Silence (level 3): 150 dmg + 20 dmg
Mimic: Sigil of Silence (greatest multiplier gains): 165 dmg + 22 dmg
Distortion (Level 3): 85 dmg
Ethereal Chains: 80 dmg
Total: 522 dmg

She lost 76 dmg. This is her full combo and assumes she successfully hit you with everything and got the second proc on her chain and second proc on her Silence. I didn't include AP since by level 6 she usually hasn't shopped, and more AP only widens the gap since the ultimate multiplier decreased by 1/2. By level 6 she's at 87.3% of her former damage, down 3 armor, down 50 range on her primary nuke (50 range is more than you'd think as they almost certainly were using it at maximum length), less spam-ability with greater mana costs / decreased mana pool and increased cooldown on her ultimate from 30 to 40. Ezreal lost his throne as the best AD carry in the game to not viable from similar general damage nerfs that didn't seem that great on paper.

I think you highly overrated her. I think you overrate her now too. Learn how to play against her.

Quote from poison_us
... then again, Riot is out to make money from the idiots who'll pay RP for every new champ. Since I started playing, there's only one champ that wasn't massively OP as soon as he came out, but I can't remember what his name is.
You do your argument no credit. Also, to name a recent few decidedly underpowered-at-release new heroes: Lux, Swain, Kog'Maw, Urgot, Malzahar.



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Nov 5 2010, 2:38 am poison_us Post #900

Back* from the grave

Ah, it was Urgot, thanks.




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